What would you do for True Undeniable Love.
How Far away is too Far for something truly real.

Would you give your all?

Would You Hold Back?

Could Your past give you strength or destroy what may be?

How much do you really value True Love...


Do You Believe Marriage is just a piece of Paper?
And If so Divorce is Too???Just a piece of Paper?

Really... what do you want, How much are you willing to give, what is it really worth to you?
How Much does it really mean beyond the Laws Of Man?

This is truly something of my curiosity... so if you post... i will have no judgement... but maybe some questions on the how, why, what,

I've given her my all, but she doesn't want it.
I've let go, and gone with the flow, but she turns off the faucet.
My past leads my way, no longer will i be foolish.

Simply does not exist, at least not in that form nor anymore. At one time perhaps, but not today, tomorrow, or next week. Marriage is a joke most of the time and the other times it's a bad soap opera, divorce is one of the same. What do I want? Got a Coke?

the one truest form of love is the love of a parent for a child. my daughter has a place in my heart that no one will or can ever take. when you would die to protect them, you know you love them

Do you feel that Most if not all relationships are one sided?

i have seen it many times one gives all the other takes all but never seems to be an equal exchange.

Why and how could we seek love in that?

I see some real problems in your question.

First, you have to take into consideration how many people even know what the true definitions of these words are.

Unfortunately most people these days have no clue what the real meaning and value of these words are. They say things like "I love you" like it is something of very common place. They say it in an ignorance that astounds me (and I mean ignorant in its true form, they simply do not know, because they were never taught or learned a different form).

So first, do you know what you are really asking? And if you think so, what are your definitions? Give some examples. That way you may be able to get more detailed and direct answers. Many levels to be considered.

My question to this is...

your post is excellent and true to my heart as well... if i could not or would not offer my own life to give them a chance then it is not my ALL...

Why does it seem that Adults... if christian belief, would not do the same for thier mates as thier children? when it is written that the spouse comes next under God...
Do you think society has chosen to quit Marriage in a biblical term?

I would do anything for love,especially if it's for the "one"
And,marriage is a real commitment so no it's not only just a document...

in the heart,.. not on paper...
it rapes him,..and it rapes her...
the system lacks,.. and it'll use you...
phuck you up,.. and abuses you...
and divorce,.. is most certain...
it'll for sure,.. pull the curtain...



the heart is stronger than paper.....it has been since the ice age.....no paper there....

Love In its truest form... to think of the other as the beneficarary not oneself... I believe that has been removed in our ME , Me , Me society and partners make decisions based on themselves not thinking as a serviant mate... and yes this goes for both Male and female to each other.

True Love the essence of a God Given sharing of souls... the mergence to become one (as In the trinity)

To truly feel blessed you have your mate not settled that they are good to you.

to be unable to accept anything or anyone above your mate.not by obligation but by choice.

Treat the marriage vows as they are... a promise, a contract binding.

it just seems that people have taken to choose the easy road... as long as it is OK, maybe even good we can marry... but if i don't like it can divorce as easily and quickly as i married... then to act like the other is worthless... when they had the value of your promise that one sacred day.

Would you hold on to your spouse in everything short of defiling your love with another?

i guees that is the real question i was going to ask...

I agree... Paper is only Man's law of recording the event.

But in one's heart they make a promise if you will (a Vow) and i do know you can even get married without the vow.(how sad is that)

But when one breaks the vow... Should they ever be trusted by ANYONE ever again???

the reason i ask is...

I read a seperated AN divorced thread once and was deeply sadened.
Not that i Judged... but thought it wrong to be with another while still married to one.

Seperation is not divorce... and yes i know it is a fine line... But still it is a given time by Man's Law to see if reconciliation could happen.
But i do understand that Divorce due to infidelity is blessed by The Word.
But if One is not divorced aren't they really still married???
Doesn't that put them equally in the position of Adultry?
Or Am I the only one who cares???

Just so many changes in the family values over the past 20 yaers or so... have we really progressed or digreesed???

native americans can hand-fast..look in to it.

Well you have some good ideas in some forms here.

You are a younger generation and its still getting worse.

I come from a time and place that does not exist anymore and you are probably to young to have ever seen it. Now, you may have seen parts of it from your parents (and it sounds like that and that is a very good thing) but you have never experiences it through sources outside your family.

Now where and when I was raised, basically the huge majority of the time, you could count on what a person was saying to you, good , bad , or indifferent.

If they said they were going to help you, you could count on that and they would do everything they could. If they said they were going to kick your *ss, then you better get your fists up, because its coming.

And I was never a "me" person, so I can only understand from an outsider's view.

I would easily and without thought of self, stand in front of any kind of harm for someone I loved. I have always cared about those I love more than myself. Not that I have low self esteem or value, I am a very confident person and in who I am. I simply know the true definition of love, which would be careing more about that other person than yourself, without reservation and or agendas, etc.

To find "true love" these days...good luck brother. because you are talking in terms of a marriage style relationship and that takes more than just "love".

It's a relationship that must connect on many levels and can be a complex maze at times. And now we live in a world of the selfish and self-centered, add to that all the confusion and ignorance (in its truest form again), then you would find something extremely rare...and either of you would be fools to ever let that go.

Sounds like you are on a decent road to discovery...hope you find your way!

Me personally ... I have faced it all.
Not me doing but me as the reciever...
Cheating
Stealing
Lying
Using our home and children as a revolving entertainment.

Now after 5 years i have found another whom i truly Love and returns the same love to me...

I trust again with All and everything she will never defile our Love.
I know i will never...

But looking over threads a lot of times i just do not see this type of relationship being able to happen for others.

So it makes one wonder... I Know I have been blessed... But her and i cannot be the minority with so many thousands of people searching everyday... how come one a handful really make it to achieve true happiness???

Is this a trick question??? Or isn't it pretty obvious what is staring you in the face from this world? I think if you read back you have already answered this one for yourself...just think a min.

Yes Exactly... No Paper.
But the reason i added that was a thread that people where commenting marriage and divorce was just a piece of paper...
Not that i thought they where wrong and me right.
I just could not understand how they thought that way.

Love should be worth your life..
I love my kids more than my life itsself...

perhaps why it would be hard for me to fall in love