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Topic: Heavily opinionated...don't yell at me.
FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:13 PM
This is my examination of what love is to humanity, however this explanation will only cover the last 23 years because that is as far as I will take my experience (should be more like 10 but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt).

First off, why does one desire love? Why do you desire love? Is it to be loved back, or because you truly love someone? In most cases it is a two-way road, you both desire love and to give love (this is not to be confused with affection). However in this sense, when is it that this love fails? Sometimes the death of a partner other times what? I am yet to find a suitable explanation of why one say's they love someone and then down the road decide they don't anymore.

Second part of love is the synapses that it triggers in the mind (most commonly referred to as a drug). This also works two ways, you get the "high" feeling from affection or from true love. And this is where it leads to a conflict, because you may truly believe it was love when in fact it could of been the affection that was shown at the time as both give off the same "high". Now the confusing part of this is when the trigger goes off when your not even near the partner, this can be because of two reasons; one: Your thinking of your partner at the time; or, two: Your fantasizing. Simple.

This is where I break down my idea of what love is and isn't (heavily opinionated).

I don't truly think love works anymore as it once did in say the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Why this is I have figured is because of numerous media circuses jumping from celebrity relationship to celebrity relationship, and because human's are not trustworthy. This is not to imply that all human's are not trustworth as I have met a few that are truly the definition of the word, but moreso to say this is a basic reaction to a new situation (which would be "love") and this basic reaction is to try and play yourself off as "the best" in the partners eye's. The main reason love doesn't work is because it requires perfection in many areas that we as mankind are simply not perfect in, such as but not limited to, words, thoughts, actions, and perception. Where one percieves the words "I love you" to mean that one truly loves them, the one speaking them is no more trustworthy than your ex, and this covers all of the imperfections of humanity.

These are my thoughts on the issue, you are free to argue my points till your fingers bleed but it will not sway the decisions I have already made.

hikerchick's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:14 PM
You've been smoking weed again, haven't you?

Nobody can read all that at this hour.yawn yawn yawn

wildflower27203's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:15 PM
well said :smile:

FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:16 PM
So...don't read it and move on?

hikerchick's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:17 PM

So...don't read it and move on?


nah..I will read some tonight....and some tomorrow am...I am always interested in what comes out of your brain.

FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:19 PM


So...don't read it and move on?


nah..I will read some tonight....and some tomorrow am...I am always interested in what comes out of your brain.


Well at least someone finds my thoughts interesting.laugh

And for the record I'm sober...right now.

FaithfulOne78's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:19 PM
flowerforyou flowerforyou it's your opinion and everyone has their own...nice flowerforyou drinker

TheCaptain's photo
Wed 04/09/08 10:43 PM
I think it awesome that you have a strong opinion on the matter.

Just an analogy. If you like ice cream, do you analize the molecular structure, or just eat it?

FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 04/09/08 11:00 PM
Edited by FearandLoathing on Wed 04/09/08 11:07 PM

I think it awesome that you have a strong opinion on the matter.

Just an analogy. If you like ice cream, do you analize the molecular structure, or just eat it?


Don't like ice cream. Do you yourself not have opinions on certain things? If not I suppose I'm the only one with opinions? Ideas?

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/10/08 08:08 AM
I'm shamelessly bumping this.smokin

Dragoness's photo
Thu 04/10/08 08:26 AM
Fear, I am not all the way awake this morning so pardon me if I do not make sense.

First and foremost humans are constantly growing and changing, we do it until we die. Love cannot be static when these changes happen or people will be in love with the person that a person used to be and not the changed person.

Second of all, everyone makes mistakes either because of their state of mind when the relationship started or because of the lack of communitcation, etc..... Sometimes the relationship is a mistake. We can love people that we should not be with, sad but true.

Best case scenerio two people grow and change together and the love evovles with them. This of course is assuming that the two people are already faithful, loyal, etc.... If you have any mental health issues going on, drug abuse, depression, etc... then that makes it hard for both parties.

Love is one of the joys of being human. We all should experience it at least once in life just to know the feeling of being in love. Whether is works out or not, to have the experience is what life is here for.

Hope that helps someflowerforyou

AllenAqua's photo
Thu 04/10/08 08:32 AM
well...my feeling is that love is something you do, not something that you feel... it's not a willy nilly uncontrollable phenomenon that you fall into, but rather it's a choice that you make, be it wisely or otherwise. I prefer to say "stand in love" rather than "fall in love" because it more truely denotes what is actually happening, whether we want to take responsibility for it or not...

jmo smokin

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/10/08 08:56 AM
Edited by FearandLoathing on Thu 04/10/08 08:56 AM
Don't take this to mean I've never loved, I do have one girl I love with all my heart. Though nothing will ever manifest from it I do truly love her, this is moreso an explanation of why love is inconceivable from the get go not a moral tale of how I couldn't find my way.

creativesoul's photo
Thu 04/10/08 08:59 AM
Love equates to that which lay within both you and your partner...

Any more questions? :wink:

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:01 AM

Love equates to that which lay within both you and your partner...

Any more questions? :wink:


Wasn't a question but thank you for your insight. Love can't equate to two different individuals as time is ever-changing, this in fact is what kills love in the long run (time). After said amount of years a person grows bored of their supposed "loved" one, why is that? No longer entertaining? Not the person they were before? Can that dramatic of change occur to the point that love no longer exists?

creativesoul's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:06 AM
It sounds simple.... it is not... it requires knowing...

As I already stated...

Love equates to that which lay within both you and your partner...



FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:12 AM

It sounds simple.... it is not... it requires knowing...

As I already stated...

Love equates to that which lay within both you and your partner...





And that is why I think it to be a rarity, because it is not simple and it requires two individuals to be on the same wavelength for a lifetime. I'm not saying it doesn't exist I'm just saying it is near nil for possibility, percentage wise somewhere around .9888*.

creativesoul's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:18 AM
Ya know fear,

I would agree with your rarity sentiment... absolutely!

Society has trivialized love and sex to the point of it being truly unrecognizable... mis-labeled as it were...

The key, to me at least, is in the careful and stringient choosing after one knows who they are, and what is important to them.

The more relationships one has that fail should only bring a greater understanding to why... by looking within one's self for the answers...

But I never think inside of the box... so, I have been called crazy more times than I can count...:wink:

I would rather be crazy and me, than normal and those who called me such...laugh

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:23 AM

Ya know fear,

I would agree with your rarity sentiment... absolutely!

Society has trivialized love and sex to the point of it being truly unrecognizable... mis-labeled as it were...

The key, to me at least, is in the careful and stringient choosing after one knows who they are, and what is important to them.

The more relationships one has that fail should only bring a greater understanding to why... by looking within one's self for the answers...

But I never think inside of the box... so, I have been called crazy more times than I can count...:wink:

I would rather be crazy and me, than normal and those who called me such...laugh


Are you calling me normal? Nice.smokin

Anyway, I agree with your stance. As a matter of fact it is probably the best stance I've heard about with this subject, and that is why I based my idea of love off my 23 years of life because at one time it did truly exist and was predominant.

creativesoul's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:28 AM
Fear...

So ya know, Nah, I was not calling you anything...:wink:

From spring 1989 through fall 1992 I had a hawk that was over 9 inches long...:wink: Your pic in the avatar reminds me of it... I fixed it in nail spikes which took over 3 hours to complete, therefore I would not wash it for days...laugh

What a rebel I was at a younger age...laugh

Conformity is not a weakness, it is a survival tool in modern society... unfortunately so, it is difficult to know the difference between one's masks and one's self...

Thank you for the compliment...

flowerforyou

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