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Why does God tease and torment when he os supposed to love h Not a good question. It assumes there is a God who teases and torments and it assumes that God is supposed to love... Huh? Dumb and loaded question. how is that dumb or loaded? it's a question many ask |
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Why does God tease and torment when he os supposed to love h Not a good question. It assumes there is a God who teases and torments and it assumes that God is supposed to love... Huh? Dumb and loaded question. how is that dumb or loaded? it's a question many ask "Loaded" means that it holds assumptions. It first and formost assumes there is a God. I have not problem with that, but nevertheless it does assume that. Second, it assumes that this God teases and torments people. Okay, that is loaded with assumptions. If the guy has a specific problem in his life, he shouldn't blame it on some deity. He should ask a more direct question and address the problem at hand instead of making everyone guess in the dark. JB |
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ok but if it is HIS belief...then it's not an assuption anymore than what you believe. trying to learn, understand or clarify through a questions with peoples who might be able to give him any answers is NEVER dumb
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ok but if it is HIS belief...then it's not an assuption anymore than what you believe. trying to learn, understand or clarify through a questions with peoples who might be able to give him any answers is NEVER dumb He did not state any belief. He only asked a question. That question had several assumptions. Let me give you an exammple. Why did you sneak into your neighbor's house yesterday and take a picture of his living room? What does that question assume? (Perhaps I just believe that you did this, because someone told me you did.) It is a loaded question. JB |
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Why does God tease and torment when he os supposed to love h Not a good question. It assumes there is a God who teases and torments and it assumes that God is supposed to love... Huh? Dumb and loaded question. how is that dumb or loaded? it's a question many ask It isn't a dumb question anymore than it is a loaded one. People can and do look at faith in God in many ways. How is it that there aren't times when it appears that God does indeed tease those who profess to love God most? The parents who go to church on a regular basis, who live that message on every day of the week (not just on Sunday) who give of their income, who recognizing they are imperfect still do what they can only to have a child born with a terminal disease. It is neither dumb or loaded to ask if that does not look like God teasing them. It is even easier to ask when one considers how evil (or anti-moral behavior) seems to be allowed to prosper. Perhaps there will be a day when all of faith is understood but that won't be a day here on earth. In the meantime, I have and will continue to ask questions, seek to understand how people reconcile their faith with the reality of what we see every day and how we can marry those things in a way that doesn't leave us cynical and without hope. -Drew |
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ok....then answer with whatever deity you think he's asking about
if someone wanted to ask a question that believed what you believe....would that be dumb or loaded? asking a question to understand will NEVER be dumb or loaded in my book |
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Why does God tease and torment when he os supposed to love h Not a good question. It assumes there is a God who teases and torments and it assumes that God is supposed to love... Huh? Dumb and loaded question. how is that dumb or loaded? it's a question many ask It isn't a dumb question anymore than it is a loaded one. People can and do look at faith in God in many ways. How is it that there aren't times when it appears that God does indeed tease those who profess to love God most? The parents who go to church on a regular basis, who live that message on every day of the week (not just on Sunday) who give of their income, who recognizing they are imperfect still do what they can only to have a child born with a terminal disease. It is neither dumb or loaded to ask if that does not look like God teasing them. It is even easier to ask when one considers how evil (or anti-moral behavior) seems to be allowed to prosper. Perhaps there will be a day when all of faith is understood but that won't be a day here on earth. In the meantime, I have and will continue to ask questions, seek to understand how people reconcile their faith with the reality of what we see every day and how we can marry those things in a way that doesn't leave us cynical and without hope. -Drew that's how you learn. to say anything is dumb or loaded would make ME at least not want to ask anymore |
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You cannot expect to ever get a truly satisfactory answer from a question like that. A question like that is doomed. It can never be answered. It accuses, implies and assumes. It is not even a question, it is more of a statement that declares, "I don't understand why things seem so unfair.
"Why do things seem so unfair?" He could have asked that. But instead, he implies that God is to blame and that God is teasing and tormenting him. If he wants an answer to that question, I would have to assume that God is tormenting him and try to answer that. Okay, perhaps God is sadistic, cruel and unfair. How is that for an answer? Or perhaps, God is testing him. That's one that is often used. Truth is, nobody knows. The question does not want an answer, the person just wants to complain. JB |
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no you can't get a full answer but many points would help. there have been some good things said. i can't think of anyone that never doubts or ask why. but just because you don't believe the same belief doesn't mean it's a loaded question. i have seen several answers here. and it certainly isn't dumb.
asking questions helps get through doubt and helps to understand. maybe if more people would just answer and not criticize then more might be open to ask questions. i ask many of different beliefs questions....to better understand them and myself. doubt is normal for people to experience |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 04/05/08 09:48 PM
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no you can't get a full answer but many points would help. there have been some good things said. i can't think of anyone that never doubts or ask why. but just because you don't believe the same belief doesn't mean it's a loaded question. i have seen several answers here. and it certainly isn't dumb. What I believe has nothing to do with it. Even if I were a devout Christian, I would say that this guy is blaming God. If he is being tormented, and teased, why blame God? Why not blame Satan? I understand what he is doing. He is expressing his doubt in God. He is questioning what he has been told about God, ~~that God is supposed to Love, not torment. I know what he is doing. He is loosing his faith. asking questions helps get through doubt and helps to understand. maybe if more people would just answer and not criticize then more might be open to ask questions. i ask many of different beliefs questions....to better understand them and myself. doubt is normal for people to experience Well, okay, I see you don't have any idea what I am talking about. If you think you have the answer to his question, I'm sure he would love to hear it. JB |
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yellowrose10
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Sat 04/05/08 09:51 PM
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if you understood why say it was a dumb and loaded question?
why not just offer advice that maybe it's not God or whatever your belief to the question is. i agree with what someone had said already and I don't think i could have said it better |
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if you understood why say it was a dumb and loaded question? Because it was. Again, a LOADED question ASSUMES facts that have not been established. Does God torment people? Does God tease People? Is God supposed to Love people? Does God exist? The question assumes all of the above, therefore only people who agree with the above premise can address the question. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 04/05/08 09:58 PM
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Yellowrose,
Why do you tease and torment me? I thought you were a loving person. (Do you see how loaded that question is?) JB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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rod,
if you could explain what you are referring to about how you feel God teases and torments, that would be helpful. if you are referring to love (guessing since this is a dating site) maybe it's because people in the past weren't right for you. if it is something else...please let us know |
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why not just offer advice that maybe it's not God or whatever your belief to the question is. Because therein is the trap... (This is a "Yeh but....." question that seeks sympathy, not real answers.) Of course I could go into a long drawn out explanation of the Law of Karma, and my beliefs, but he is probably a Christian who would be more comforted by a fellow Christian. That is what he wants anyway. ..some sympathy. I just thought the question was vague and whiny. My opinion. |
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Yellowrose, Why do you tease and torment me? I thought you were a loving person. (Do you see how loaded that question is?) JB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() no I don't. I would ASK you what you meant before saying it was loaded and DUMB (which you keep forgetting you said). when I first started posting threads in here...i didn't know how to word what I was asking. could that MAYBE be this case? instead of saying it's DUMB and LOADED...ask for clarification |
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Yellowrose, Why do you tease and torment me? I thought you were a loving person. (Do you see how loaded that question is?) JB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() no I don't. I would ASK you what you meant before saying it was loaded and DUMB (which you keep forgetting you said). when I first started posting threads in here...i didn't know how to word what I was asking. could that MAYBE be this case? instead of saying it's DUMB and LOADED...ask for clarification You are right. I should not have been so critical. I should have asked for clarification. (But I suspect the question was vague on purpose.) But I always try to be strait forward and up front and I like to be clear and to the point. I don't like games and I don't normally even respond to these kinds of questions which I think are dumb and loaded. I guess I had nothing else to do tonight. ... ![]() ![]() |
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Anyway I hope you know now what I mean by a loaded question.
It assumes facts that are not established. *********************************** ("What did you murder that man with, the knife or the finger nail file?") <---------Loaded question "I didn't murder that guy." <----------- innocent person |
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JB...I have had respect for you because you are strong in what you believe and anything (even if it's your take from your own belief) would have been great. but I know myself that when someone is hurting (which he seems to be) and new to the forums...it isn't easy for everone to express what they are asking. if you notice he deleted his post. i don't know why or if it's because of responses or because he is hurting or confusing and trying to reach out for anything.
i think we have all been in that situation. i admit i was shocked at your answer. ty though for maybe seeing it could be soething else |
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Anyway I hope you know now what I mean by a loaded question. It assumes facts that are not established. *********************************** ("What did you murder that man with, the knife or the finger nail file?") <---------Loaded question "I didn't murder that guy." <----------- innocent person i understood what you meant...but it was accompanied by dumb. if you had stated it was a loaded question and to please clarify...that would have been great |
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