Topic: Who created the first imperfection?
yzrabbit1's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:10 PM

Do you have an answer?

Jill298's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:16 PM
depends on who you believe...
"God" created Adam and Eve... so if you believe in that, and you also believe that Jesus was the only person without sin (perfect)... Then Adam must have had imperfections, therefore... God did it first??

Amalie's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:20 PM
good point Jill!!

touchybear's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:21 PM

depends on who you believe...
"God" created Adam and Eve... so if you believe in that, and you also believe that Jesus was the only person without sin (perfect)... Then Adam must have had imperfections, therefore... God did it first??








how tue hun....

Runpenzo's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:24 PM
Humans did, since perfection and imperfection (even in the realm of gods and deities) are human rationalizations, we are the ones who define perfection and we are the ones who define imperfections, so it was mankind after all. For without an eye to see it does perfection exist? And if it does exist without outside observers then how can it be called perfection without something to compare it to?

Jill298's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:26 PM

Humans did, since perfection and imperfection (even in the realm of gods and deities) are human rationalizations, we are the ones who define perfection and we are the ones who define imperfections, so it was mankind after all. For without an eye to see it does perfection exist? And if it does exist without outside observers then how can it be called perfection without something to compare it to?
if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make any sound?:wink:

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:27 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Tue 04/01/08 12:29 PM
According to the science of astrophysics the Big Bang created the first imperfection.

In fact, life as we know it would not even be possible had it not been for that first imperfection which created all of the beautiful imperfections that we see around us.

You see, if the universe were perfect, it would have no recognizable stuff it in. It would just be one perfectly homogeneous cloud of perfectly distributed particles.

It’s the fact that they have been distributed imperfectly that gives rise to the universe we see.

A perfect world can have no distinct features because distinct features are themselves imperfections.

So be grateful for imperfections! drinker

Without them life would impossible.

Jill298's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:30 PM
everything was pretty much peferct until humans came along... we kinda went and messed everything up. I blame it on Adam

yzrabbit1's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:32 PM

According to the science of astrophysics the Big Bang created the first imperfection.

In fact, life as we know it would not even be possible had it not been for that first imperfection which created all of the beautiful imperfections that we see around us.

You see, if the universe were perfect, it would have no recognizable stuff it in. It would just be one perfectly homogeneous cloud of perfectly distributed particles.

It’s the fact that they have been distributed imperfectly that gives rise to the universe we see.

A perfect world can have no distinct features because distinct features are themselves imperfections.

So be grateful for imperfections! drinker

Without them life would impossible.



You may have just given some people an out with this one.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:34 PM
everything was pretty much peferct until humans came along...


What makes you say that?

Animals have been eating other animals long before man came on the scene.

Disease also existed long before man came on the scene.

Do you think those things were perfect?

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:36 PM

You may have just given some people an out with this one.


Well if they needed an 'out' more power to them. :wink:

Jill298's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:36 PM
animals are supposed to eat other animals... that's how they survive.
We don't know much about diseases before mankind so it's hard to comment on that.

Jill298's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:37 PM


You may have just given some people an out with this one.


Well if they needed an 'out' more power to them. :wink:
laugh true

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 04/01/08 12:39 PM

animals are supposed to eat other animals...


You have strange ideas of 'perfection' my dear.

I guess you're thinking in terms of a designer and anything the designer says is ok must then be perfect "by design".

I suppose you can view it that way. But some people might argue that the designer was a bit sadistic in his design if that's the case.

yzrabbit1's photo
Tue 04/01/08 01:16 PM

Now that I have read this I realize that imperfection is key. Is there any Religion out there that thinks Imperfection is Not Godly

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 04/01/08 03:05 PM
men

yashafox_F4X1's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:05 PM
I've got an imperfect answer, so mine's the second, evidently.