Thanks all!! When I find the fountain of youth I will invite you all for drink or a swim!

We will drink from the Holy Grail... of course. <--- Me drinking from the grail.

Yep that's the one I go by!

Jenniebean, stop 'adopting' labels, instead just keep asking questions? Stop romanticizing immortality and for goodness sakes, when you think you have a possible piece of the puzzle you are tying put together, STOP looking only for that which supports it, instead look for that which opposses it. In that way, you will not fall in to the trap of constantly having to change a belief system.

The fountain of youth is inside. It flows as long as there are questions you seek the answer to. That's the infinate in the equation, that's where immortality lies. Find god, know god, be god, accept that god is the only infinate and there ceases to be questions, for what questions could god have and what answers could we seek if all were found? There is no peace in eternity if there is nothing to learn.

Let the questions flow and the fountain of youth is yours.

Besides, I like your questions, I've already asked all the ones you've posed, so I have responces, but mostly they are meant to make you ask more questions.

I'm waiting for you to pose the ones I havn't asked, so I can learn with you.

The sad part about life is just when you know enough to really make it work, and just when it starts to get real interesting, that's when your body begins to show signs of wear.

This should be the best time of all, instead, for some strange reason which is not natural, the body ages. The body is not supposed to age, and scientist can't really figure out why it does.

I think there is an answer to this question. I think aging can be stopped, and age can even be reversed. I don't see anything romantic about that. I am not saying that I seek physical immortality, but I think aging can be reversed, even cured.

We live in a thought world which is part of a thought universe. Some say that we agreed to the conditions here before we came, and that death and aging was part of the package. But to me, it just does not seem natural.

I see a world where life goes on for as long as one desires it.

JB

I agree totally.....I also think genes play a huge part...I don't look almost 50 as my mother never looked her age. And I think your right stress plays a factor in your whole being. I don't stress I see no point to it...stress to me comes from not dealing with issues...so deal with them and be done with them.

I also think that many illnesses come from stress......I don't get sick....everyone around me can go through the colds the flus the everything....I don't get it because I say to myself, "self your not going to get sick." mind over matter and of course God looking out for me 24/7

Shamless plug cuz I am bold like that.....


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Maybe you just need to give up on trying to label your beliefs Jeanniebean. I think your understanding of The Absolute cannot be encompassed in words alone. Theres nothing wrong with that.

Everybody seems to need a label. I never have labeled my beliefs, other people do it. I tell what I believe and they they say something like:

"Oh you sound like a pantheist.."

Then I say, really? Okay. (accepting the label for their benefit) But in truth I don't really know what all it takes to be a pantheist.

Then Creativesoul and Feralcatlady come along and start to pick apart and define pantheism as if they are wanting to challenge me to some sort of dual or argument to defend my label.

Huh? I think. I don't even know what pantheism is, they (other people) labeled me, I just let them. Now they are wanting to discuss it or debate it. I don't.

Now they are labeling me agnostic or atheist. I say whatever makes you feel better.

I quit labels. The only thing I am CERTAIN of is that I EXIST.

jb

And then Redykulous comes around and at first he seems pleased to see someone converting to atheism.. until he hears my other considerations and then he tells me I am living in fantasy land.

There is no pleasing everyone.

I do think the earth adventure is like fantasy Island. Perhaps we are living in fantasy land.

JB

Perhaps we are simply a manifestation of the dreams of another being and will cease to exist when that being wakes. Or not.

Interesting concept. Thats a very, very ancient belief.

I always wonder what happens to all the people I meet in my dreams. mmmm. I am their God I guess.

Then I wake up. They are perhaps single cells pretending to be people in my dreams.

Believe in God and his Son, then you'll know what to call it.

The only evidence of God is my own existence.

well what else do you need love?

Well I don't have any son.

Perhaps defining yourself as a Humanist would suit you Jeannie. Humanism is a philosophy of life inspired by humanity and guided by reason. It provides the basis for a fulfilling and ethical life without religion.

Humanists make sense of the world using reason, experience and shared human values.
Humanists see no convincing evidence for gods, the supernatural, or life after death.
Humanists believe that moral values are properly founded on human empathy and scientific understanding.
Humanists believe we must live this life on the basis that it is the only life we'll have -- that, therefore, we must make the most of it for ourselves, each other, and our world.
Humanist philosophies have arisen separately in many different cultures over many thousands of years. Whether or not they use the term humanism, tens of millions of Americans and hundreds of millions of people around the world agree with the humanist philosophy of living a happy and productive life based on reason and compassion.

Actually Jeannie, not being able to proove god has nothing to do with being an agnostic. Agnostics, like Albert Einstein and myself, believe that the human mind is incapable of ever knowing whether or not there are gods or supernatural phenomena.

Do you really believe we all exist, to just float around the universe ..never knowing nothing?

And we are just left here to be always quessing...wondering...speculating.....but never sure about anything?

What kind of God would leave us in the dark like that ....hmmmm?

Or..maybe God didn't leave us in the dark, afterall, JR?

But perhaps has already shone us the Way, the Truth , the Light ?

JR. you are right....The human MIND is incapable of knowing if God exists....

but
the SPIRIT of man is NOT incapable of knowing God.

Cause JR.....when you have spirit meshing with Spirit...
ahhhhhh...NOW there can finally be some real communication going on...spirit to Spirit.....

But..mind to spirit?
logic to spirit?
Intelligence to spirit?

Nah...2 different planes....won't work...can't even meet ...much less mesh with each other..or communicate.

Really quite simple, when you think about it....

As I said earlier, being agnostic, I don't have the answer to any of the questions you ask. Nor do you. Incapable of knowing you see. I can't tell you what kind of god would leave us in the dark if I can't tell that a god exists can I?