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Wed 10/01/14 08:01 PM





Golde checkin that lays golden egg


Only geese lay golden eggs. Chickens lay copper eggs......:tongue:

I had pea hens lay silver pied eggs. biggrin

Roses

What happened to the I, J, K, L, M and N? there's supposed to be an I, J, K, L, M and N! (:laughing: ahh Marvin how much we love thee)

Sleep... Must have Sleep...
awww..should have posted this n the well wishes thread..lol

Parrot that sing my favorite song..lol:tongue: grumble


:laughing:

Relaxation

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Wed 10/01/14 08:01 PM
Edited by Serverousprime on Wed 10/01/14 08:01 PM
Wow that's a lot of asking for me... Thanks! drinks

flowerforyou biggrin flowers waving


oops ummm Astro?

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Wed 10/01/14 07:59 PM
Edited by Serverousprime on Wed 10/01/14 07:59 PM
That sounds dirty...
:angel: :laughing: :angel:

Mikey beat me...

refreshed...

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Wed 10/01/14 07:35 PM
Namaste

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Wed 10/01/14 07:26 PM
Lima peru (I want it all Muahahahhahahahaaha!!)

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Wed 10/01/14 07:22 PM
Edited by Serverousprime on Wed 10/01/14 07:21 PM
Yep they can't and that's not the point. legislators aren't trying to legislate verbal actions of sex. They are trying to legislate when people can't and thus any sexual act would be deemed as rape. The things the police will consider is:
* the totality of the circumstances
* the age of the victim
* his or her relationship to the defendant (suspect)
* any handicap or disability of the victim
* any threats of hardship not amounting to duress

The things the the university needs to consider
* The complainant was asleep or unconscious
* The complainant was incapacitated due to the influence of drugs, alcohol, or medication
* The complainant was unable to communicate due to a mental or physical condition

As for the implementation, that's up to the institutions. What is clear is that things are going to change.

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Wed 10/01/14 07:12 PM


State St.


...on Halloween.


THIS! IS! HALLOWEEN!

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Wed 10/01/14 07:08 PM
Terra

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Wed 10/01/14 07:05 PM



Golde checkin that lays golden egg


Only geese lay golden eggs. Chickens lay copper eggs......:tongue:

I had pea hens lay silver pied eggs. biggrin

Roses

What happened to the I, J, K, L, M and N? there's supposed to be an I, J, K, L, M and N! (:laughing: ahh Marvin how much we love thee)

Sleep... Must have Sleep...

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Wed 10/01/14 07:05 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

(breeths deeply)

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Wed 10/01/14 06:55 PM
Smitten

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Wed 10/01/14 06:50 PM
Edited by Serverousprime on Wed 10/01/14 06:56 PM


he posted that it was offensive and prejudice,, where does 'racist' fit in?

that's a very specific TYPE of prejudice that I didn't see an accuation of ,

Sorry my eyes were deceiving me there it would appear that I misunderstood who said that...

I apologize for the misunderstanding.

However I do thank you for conceding the argument.

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Wed 10/01/14 06:34 PM




I'm so glad so many people thing Rape is a laughing matter. I for one think that one rape victim is too much.


hey prime, I have been assaulted twice in my life, so I definitely wouldn't laugh about rape,,

I just don't quite understand the purpose or enforceability of such a law,,,understanding that sex/lovemaking can be a very intimate thing or a very impulsive thing that not everyone responds to in the same way

mandating the response,, seems like missing the mark,, to me anyhow,,,,especially since it will still come down to something that happens with only two witnesses



Yeah... I get why people would feel that way about the bill. What I don't understand is when people choose to mock a bill instead of trying to understand it.

I actually read the bill in it entirety. By what I read, it seems that the enforcement of the bill is by preventing funding to colleges and Universities that don't implement the policy.

(a) In order to receive state funds for student financial assistance, the governing board of each community college district, the Trustees of the California State University, the Regents of the University of California, and the governing boards of independent postsecondary institutions shall adopt a policy concerning sexual assault, domestic violence, dating violence, and stalking, as defined in the federal Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. Sec. 1092(f)) involving a student, both on and off campus. The policy shall include all of the following:


(b) (1) Rape in the second degree is an act of sexual intercourse, an act of sodomy as described in subdivision (a) of Section 286, an act of oral copulation as described in subdivision (a) of Section 288a, or an act of sexual penetration as described in paragraph (1) of subdivision (k) of Section 289, which is accomplished without the affirmative and freely given consent of the victim, and a reasonable person would not have believed there was affirmatively and freely given consent. In a prosecution made pursuant to this subdivision, the prosecutor is required to demonstrate that the defendant did not reasonably believe that affirmative consent had been freely given.
(2) In determining whether consent was affirmatively and freely given, the totality of the circumstances, including the age of the victim, his or her relationship to the defendant, and any handicap or disability of the victim, and any threats of hardship not amounting to duress, shall be considered.
(c) As used in this section, “duress” means a direct or implied threat of force, violence, danger, or retribution sufficient to coerce a reasonable person of ordinary susceptibilities to perform an act which otherwise would not have been performed, or acquiesce in an act to which one otherwise would not have submitted. The total circumstances, including the age of the victim, and his or her relationship to the defendant, are factors to consider in appraising the existence of duress.


The second quote is taken from senate bill 991 that was drafted in feb 2014. Section 2 explains what and how things are considered when consent is affirmative and freely given. I think that consent isn't well defined because mandating a response isn't what the legislature is trying to do. what they are trying to do is remove the obscurity of things like Date rape, rape by drugs and alcohol, and sex with someone sleeping. Essentially someone shouldn't have sex with anyone who can't consent.

To clarify, By the terminology used in this new bill a few new things are being changed.
1) Colleges and Universities will lose funding if they don't update their policies regarding rape and rape victims.
2) Explains what updates they need to implement
. a) The Definition of "Affirmative consent" is clarified more for Universities and Colleges
. b) What new steps the universities and colleges need to take
. c) Increasing assistance for trauma related to such events
. d) Including prevention programs

Does this make sense or do I need to clarify further.




I don't see how it could be clarified. I read what you read and I still didn't see what was going to be considered 'affirmative consent'

it is already illegal to have sex with someone intoxicated

but the problem is in PROVING The rape,, which doesn't really change by this policy of stating there must be some consent

the accused will most likely BELIEVE consent existed, and was given, and if not, wont admit that they didn't believe it,,,,or that it wasn't given


in such a sexually 'free' world, I really don't have ideas as to how to decrease rape

its really a he said/she said crime usually


the best thing to decrease the rates, I believe, is to teach people more caution and vigilance in their own choices regarding drinking, mixed crowds, and the messages they may send with their body and verbal language,,,as well as teaching males and females more respect for not only their own bodies but the bodies of others,,,,


That's the point. the bill is directed towards educators educating the new generation. I don't see how legislation could legislate peoples opinions, so government officials wouldn't be able to get teachers to teach respect. What they can do is force the ethical dilemma out into the open, and force educational institutions to educate their students on the issue.

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Wed 10/01/14 06:20 PM
Edited by Serverousprime on Wed 10/01/14 06:36 PM











Furthermore, the accusation that all liberals shouldn't reproduce is as offensive as saying that "Insert race here" shouldn't reproduce, gays and lesbians shouldn't reproduce, poor women should have their tubes tied, or all NRA shouldn't have kids.

Show me an accusation.

You are entitled and I am entitled to an opinion. My opinion being, for the sake of humanity, most liberals should not produce.

Accusing statement:

It's best for humanity if liberals don't reproduce.


While you are right that you have an opinion. That doesn't mean that it isn't as offensive as saying that "insert any group here" shouldn't have the right to live, or "insert any group here" shouldn't have the right to reproduce, or "insert any group here" shouldn't have the right to survive.

It's literally prejudice. As in by the literal definition of prejudice. In my opinion prejudice has no reason in society, and thus there is no reason why I shouldn't let it cultivate by my inaction.

that's not a joke, nor in any way humorous in nature.



Are you calling me a racist?


Dude, nobody here is calling you a racist.

Dude, I asked another dude what his interpretation is of claiming my opinion is prejudice, dude.

Well, that other dude isn't calling you a racist.

Dude, and you know this (statement of fact), how?

Because If I was calling you a racist I would say it to you, and not infer it(not that I was doing that either). I am just saying exactly what I said and I can prove it if you like.

weird ... I don't even remember posting this... quote of me ...

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Wed 10/01/14 06:15 PM
Edited by Serverousprime on Wed 10/01/14 06:55 PM










Furthermore, the accusation that all liberals shouldn't reproduce is as offensive as saying that "Insert race here" shouldn't reproduce, gays and lesbians shouldn't reproduce, poor women should have their tubes tied, or all NRA shouldn't have kids.

Show me an accusation.

You are entitled and I am entitled to an opinion. My opinion being, for the sake of humanity, most liberals should not produce.

Accusing statement:

It's best for humanity if liberals don't reproduce.


While you are right that you have an opinion. That doesn't mean that it isn't as offensive as saying that "insert any group here" shouldn't have the right to live, or "insert any group here" shouldn't have the right to reproduce, or "insert any group here" shouldn't have the right to survive.

It's literally prejudice. As in by the literal definition of prejudice. In my opinion prejudice has no reason in society, and thus there is no reason why I shouldn't let it cultivate by my inaction.

that's not a joke, nor in any way humorous in nature.



Are you calling me a racist?


Dude, nobody here is calling you a racist.

Dude, I asked another dude what his interpretation is of claiming my opinion is prejudice, dude.

Well, that other dude isn't calling you a racist.

Dude, and you know this (statement of fact), how?

Because If I was calling you a racist I would say it to you, and not infer it (not that I was doing that either). I am just saying exactly what I said and I can prove it if you like.

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Wed 10/01/14 05:53 PM
Edited by Serverousprime on Wed 10/01/14 05:54 PM


I'm so glad so many people thing Rape is a laughing matter. I for one think that one rape victim is too much.


hey prime, I have been assaulted twice in my life, so I definitely wouldn't laugh about rape,,

I just don't quite understand the purpose or enforceability of such a law,,,understanding that sex/lovemaking can be a very intimate thing or a very impulsive thing that not everyone responds to in the same way

mandating the response,, seems like missing the mark,, to me anyhow,,,,especially since it will still come down to something that happens with only two witnesses



Yeah... I get why people would feel that way about the bill. What I don't understand is when people choose to mock a bill instead of trying to understand it.

I actually read the bill in it entirety. By what I read, it seems that the enforcement of the bill is by preventing funding to colleges and Universities that don't implement the policy.

(a) In order to receive state funds for student financial assistance, the governing board of each community college district, the Trustees of the California State University, the Regents of the University of California, and the governing boards of independent postsecondary institutions shall adopt a policy concerning sexual assault, domestic violence, dating violence, and stalking, as defined in the federal Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. Sec. 1092(f)) involving a student, both on and off campus. The policy shall include all of the following:


(b) (1) Rape in the second degree is an act of sexual intercourse, an act of sodomy as described in subdivision (a) of Section 286, an act of oral copulation as described in subdivision (a) of Section 288a, or an act of sexual penetration as described in paragraph (1) of subdivision (k) of Section 289, which is accomplished without the affirmative and freely given consent of the victim, and a reasonable person would not have believed there was affirmatively and freely given consent. In a prosecution made pursuant to this subdivision, the prosecutor is required to demonstrate that the defendant did not reasonably believe that affirmative consent had been freely given.
(2) In determining whether consent was affirmatively and freely given, the totality of the circumstances, including the age of the victim, his or her relationship to the defendant, and any handicap or disability of the victim, and any threats of hardship not amounting to duress, shall be considered.
(c) As used in this section, “duress” means a direct or implied threat of force, violence, danger, or retribution sufficient to coerce a reasonable person of ordinary susceptibilities to perform an act which otherwise would not have been performed, or acquiesce in an act to which one otherwise would not have submitted. The total circumstances, including the age of the victim, and his or her relationship to the defendant, are factors to consider in appraising the existence of duress.


The second quote is taken from senate bill 991 that was drafted in feb 2014. Section 2 explains what and how things are considered when consent is affirmative and freely given. I think that consent isn't well defined because mandating a response isn't what the legislature is trying to do. what they are trying to do is remove the obscurity of things like Date rape, rape by drugs and alcohol, and sex with someone sleeping. Essentially someone shouldn't have sex with anyone who can't consent.

To clarify, By the terminology used in this new bill a few new things are being changed.
1) Colleges and Universities will lose funding if they don't update their policies regarding rape and rape victims.
2) Explains what updates they need to implement
. a) The Definition of "Affirmative consent" is clarified more for Universities and Colleges
. b) What new steps the universities and colleges need to take
. c) Increasing assistance for trauma related to such events
. d) Including prevention programs

Does this make sense or do I need to clarify further.


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Wed 10/01/14 04:44 PM
Temptation

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Wed 10/01/14 04:44 PM
Fried lobster

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Wed 10/01/14 04:41 PM
Diferences

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Wed 10/01/14 04:19 PM

Azzholes to .....poof.....disappear


Agreed for the most part...

to Be! just being.