@ willing2
Hmm i do not want to get lured into making sexual inuendo's. But i agree that her wisdom is astounding. Just like msharmony's. And your not too dumb either sir. Pity though that you cloak that wisdom of yours sometimes with these kind of statements. But it is definately present

Welcome to the forum :)

@leigh2154

Thanks for the explanation :)

Thank you for clearing that out

So ehm. If i understand what you are writing now. Then you are saying it is sort of a "package deal" ( i am not trying to be sarcastic now )
So it means that apart of civilian rights to be violated. It included much more details about the military implications that all where in the same act. Is this what you mean ?

My point is that it is a violation of human rights. I do not know or think about any other consequenses it has.I just find it freaking scary that people can just dissapear of the face of the earth.


I am trying to learn from all of you.

I think i am missing the point now..or ? I am more concerned about the human rights that are at stake then the budget. What i mean is that it is quite scary that someone can be arrested on suspicions of terrorism. Without actual proof that would stand up in court. And then to be transfered to a cel where he would remain the rest of his life.
Without any form of trial.

But both agreed on it.

welcome to the forum

Welcome to the forum :)

Oh yes..that sounds pretty intense too :)

Ok thank you. :)

Is it offtopic when i ask your opinions about Kennedy ?

@FunnyJ

Your right. What King said about "All the you clowns and trying to blame the beheadings on people not supporting Obama" With that rhetoric i also do not agree with.

@ FunnyJ

I really do not see your point in this. It does not strike me that
someone wants to make this into a fight. And i would caution you also when
you say that people only reason in "black and white" terms. Because if someone here
can convince me that their arguements are better. Then i will be humble
and embrace them. You are writing that instead of us bickering about issues that
devide us. That we should not. And stick to the ones who are in power now...right? But that
is exactly what King said himselve too. So why do you say that he should be silent about his
opinion about the devide in the USA. A democracy does not exist when people are not
allowed to scrutinise it. And if there is no ground for debate. Then there will be no discussion
anyways.

Mr King is devoted to something that he believes in. No matter how warped or wrong you and i think he is. I can only have respect for people that try to defend what they believe in. And if you really think this all is such a total waste of time. Then why are you here wasting yours ?

For me "walking on water" means that you usher someone into something they have not seen, listen or witnessed before. And not necceseraly a religious association.

@Willing2
( Off topic )
Wow ! you are the fastest photoshopper i have ever seen with that
Obama walk on water picture. :D Kuddo's to you sir.
Please don't tell me that you already had that picture lying somewhere..

exactly... They should be gratefull that someone wants to guide them over the water. Inaction is the enemy of thought

"with some people, you can walk on water, and they will focus on the fact that your feet got wet"