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Tue 12/16/14 06:45 PM

These good stories happen more often then we are lead to believe. Drama sells in the media world, not happiness and joy. Either way, this is a great story.


Oh so very true but not normally in this context, emphasizing the positive.

Refreshing thought isn't it? Not the fact of a positive but that it made it to the forefront.

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Tue 12/16/14 04:22 PM

The photo provide in this thread that shows the before has four people in it and then look at the second photo it has eleven faces in it. The first photo two people laughing and the other two one Michelle that appears upset the other man looks bored.

The second photo three of them look upset the blonde, Michelle and Obama. The rest have the same expression as the white man does in the first photo.

Not looking through rose coloured glasses, just looking at other possible reasons for the frustration displayed in the first and second photo. Trying to be objective not critical by a photo.

It is like the thread that asks "...Do you judge people by their posts in the forum...". Each topic is different in the forum. Same as looking at those two photos.


What about your own past relationships ever experience any similar features/behaviour that resembles the looks in the photos'?


Still not a clue about the whole photo thing? Just three psychopaths being shunned by a sociopath (one psychopath missing from "before"). Should have followed the link, it was all telling.

Otherwise, getting back to the thread, what does that have to do with the OP?

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Tue 12/16/14 04:00 PM



except I heard about it before this post on a major news channel,,,


so, I guess they cover it after all, while also covering the protests of those cops who don't fit this bill,,,


and the racism isn't specific to white officers, its an illness amongst AMERICANS of all shades, including those whose occupation is in a public service area,,,
Nearly every time i see a post of yours, it's about colour? Grow up and get over yourself and live and let live? Cos if anyone has a problem about racism on this site it's YOU, plain and simple!!



lol, typical,, thousands of posts on hundreds of topics,, but some only see when I happen to contribute to a racial conversation

oh well,, no figuring out perception,,,,we are all free to our own,, as are you

if we were all really concerned about 'live and let live' most of these posts bashing and calling out people and groups would not exist,, now would they?


Twist and spin, twist and spin, twist and spin. It's always the same, now as then.

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Tue 12/16/14 03:54 PM

How many peole have been in a relationship, or married here. Knows somebody that has been married, or in a relationship. How many people here are still involved with the first person they ever loved? You are telling me that all that critizes have never had relationship problems.

Both men and women (not all) when there relationship has difficulties get upset with their spouse, because it is not them who is making them laugh, enjoy the evening, or carring on a peaceful conversation. No relationship is with out differences. Many (not all) would agree that at some point in their past relationships we have felt it easier to talk with a friend or someone else, besides our actual partner.

Maybe the past is the problem and she is concerned for her husband and how the media and people will respond to him openly laughing with someone beside him. Notice the elderly lady beside the blonde woman he was speaking with. She has the same look as Michelle does. Maybe it was them laughing that was the problem in the middle of the event.

The photo does not even have the correct spelling of "...before and after..." in them.

There are to many possibilities that could be happening that know one has proven to be factual truth. Because he is half white/black it is neccessary to point out a photo of him laughing and a look of frustration on his face.

And further more how many people in positions that represent a person in power are contributing to such a behaviour if it even exists?

Personally I know nothing either way of truth or false statements on this subject matter. Just pointing possible issues other than what has been stated without evidence.


Wow, please pass the rose colored glasses.

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Tue 12/16/14 03:51 PM

California controller warns of $72 billion unfunded retiree benefits

California State Controller John Chiang warned on Tuesday of a growing $71.8 billion unfunded liability to cover the state's retiree health and dental benefits.

The cost is up $7.2 billion from 2013, in part due to new mortality assumptions that men live two years longer than previously anticipated and women live up to 1.8 years longer.

The retiree healthcare liability has been a priority for Chiang, who began writing about the issue in 2007 when the unfunded cost was $47.8 billion.

"The price tag associated with providing healthcare to retired state workers has quietly grown to rival or even eclipse the funding gap associated with public pensions," said Chiang in a statement.

"We remain dangerously complacent about a liability that has grown by a stunning $24 billion in just the past eight years. If we continue to do nothing, we will be sowing the seeds of a future crisis."

Chiang proposes an aggressive five-year plan to fully pre-fund retiree healthcare costs, calling for an annual payment of $250 million to $1.7 billion above the current contribution.

The plan does away with the current pay-as-you-go policy, which covers the minimum amount as costs are due, and shifts to a pre-funding model, which covers future retiree healthcare benefits by setting aside money in a dedicated trust, much like state pensions.

Governor Brown's office issued a statement following the Controller's report promising to put forward a plan to address the "substantial and growing" unfunded liability of retiree health care in his budget to the legislature next month.


Looks like "Moonbeam Brown" gotta pull another rabbit out of his @ss again. laugh


Couldn't happen to a finer state. Maybe Polisi, Boxer and Feinstein will donate some of their pilfered loot to help out.

Has all the sane people bailed out of that state yet? Definitely wouldn't want to live in Southern Cal when the unmanipulated reality manifests itself.

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Tue 12/16/14 03:40 PM
Wow, John Kerry was just on the news and stated he was going to help our "ally" Australia on this Muslim problem with that shooter that caused the police to shoot him and a couple of other people.

My question, who is going to help Kerry? Hey would this be like going to hell down under?

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Tue 12/16/14 02:44 PM







but too often, those taken from their families have their pasts instantly COMBED THrough for any and every past discretion, they are immediately painted as the thug who just got what they 'deserved',,,


and it seems to happen MOST often with minorities,,,


Michael Brown's "past discretion" took place just before he encountered the cop who killed him, and that "discretion" was clearly a crime.


certainly did

he grabbed someone (who never called in a crime and walked away unscathed)

he stole some cigarettes

he got in a struggle with an officer

,,EXCEPT for that last event, nothing warrants death,,,and the last event had ENDED , struggle discontinued,,, by the time he was killed

IF he had been killed DURING a struggle, there would be less to dispute

being killed after traveling over a hundred feet from the vehicle/altercation by foot, without a weapon,, again causes me to not agree that a death penalty is warranted,,,





I am with you this did not warrant a death penalty ...just as the court allowed to kill Travon becouse of a stand your ground law ...know darn well if he would have never gotten out of that car and did as what was told ...that boy would be alive now ... unarmed u shoot to kill ...shakes head ... there is no in between they need to make a in between ...so others have and can have the right to their trial and chance for their life ...


their will always be another group come out to say there where a lot of mistakes but not one to face any truth ...just what their truth is the opposite of the dead person ...kill and not be able to speak for them self... and blatantly ... I can't breath just said it all ... are you working with professionals that should know how to take down and not kill another for arrest ...


I agree. Nothing occurred that warranted the "death penalty" in either case.

The problem I have is with blanket statements like "they should be trained to take down and not kill". Statements like these are made by those with no experience or training.

The federal government spent hundreds of thousands training me to deal with potentially deadly situations. I can tell you, that one of the biggest lessons I have learned is the fact that no training will make you a superhero. A few (or even a few thousand) hours of "training" won't allow you to "take down" any suspect. Real life does not work like that. Just a like a gun will not make a dark alley safe, martial arts training will not make it safe to allow a deadly threat to get close to you.

If the story the officer was telling were true (there is evidence supporting him and nothing given to the contrary), a perfect do-gooder-boy scout would done the same thing. If your job were to protect and serve and you were attacked by a psychopath who made an attempt at your life, you would be endangering everyone community by not doing SOMETHING. And when that psychopath turned and ran at you for getting out of the car, you would be endangering yourself and the community by giving him a fighting chance against you.

Note: I am not saying that the cop was a "goody two shoes", but what I am saying is that a "goody two shoes" would have done the same thing in the same situation.

The flip side to this all, is the fact that if the officer had the training, and reckless mentality to take this guy down hand to hand, people would be still be trying to crucify him for "using excessive force to beat up an innocent black kid".


What you are describing is a society that has degraded into a society suffering from Moral Relativism. A society where malum in se and malum prohibitum are one and the same.


Perhaps. To be honest, you are speaking over my head a bit on this one, my friend. For that I apologize.

I fear I didn't explain myself well, however... My main objective was to explain the action of the officer stepping out of his vehicle instead of speeding off when he was attacked (which could also lead to lawsuits if Brown were injured during this process). I guess I am trying to say the officer did not necessarily intend to inflict death on Brown until Brown allegedly charged at him. After the assailant started running at the officer again, anyone in sound mind, would have fired upon the attacker. It is still not ok to shoot someone who is blatantly trying to run away unarmed, or blatantly surrenders.

Dodo properly emphasized my other objective, as I believe many to have a very unrealistic view of the world and how real threats can and can't be dealt with.


To clarify:

Moral Relativism: the idea that there is no inherent and objective difference between right and wrong, so humanity may arbitrarily "create" or "decide" right and wrong for themselves.

Malum in se: An act is said to be malum in se when it is inherently and essentially evil, that is, immoral in its nature, and injurious in its consequences, without any regard to the fact of its being noticed or punished by the law of the state.

Malum prohibitum: An act is said to be malum prohibitum when it is determined by another the be prohibited due to their dislike. It is not immoral in its nature nor injurious in its consequences but could be noticed and will be punished by the law of the state, like walking on the grass, public grass owned by the public.


And yourself along with the other that you responded to are both in error. Once one has committed a trespass, the death penalty applies. If one commits a trespass by battery upon my person, I reserve the right to scatter what little brains possessed all over the lawn and be done with it. To any that tries to trespass upon the case, I reserve the right to remove all property owned or ever to be owned from their person by judgement in a court of record.

However, in this instant case, the officer needs to be given the reason of doubt in regards to the original harassment, was it in response to a call about the previous action of Brown or just the tendency of Wilson to be a psychopath as demonstrated in other videos. Whatever the doubt, matters soon warranted the actions taken.

When Brown committed aggravated battery (he grabbed the gun, makes it aggravated) he now needs to be addressed, peace needs to be restored. That is the entire lawful function of Wilson as a peace officer, restore the peace.

Once challenged by a peace officer, you submit; you're day in court will come soon enough and if the officer has gone beyond his authority so will his.

And sir, I would dare say the unrealistic view of the world would be yours.

"In the United States, the majority undertakes to supply a multitude of ready-made opinions for the use of individuals, who are thus relieved from the necessity of forming opinions of their own."
-Alexis de Tocqueville

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Tue 12/16/14 02:04 PM




Hustling women? That would tell me the story is a sham since our POTUS is known to prefer something a little more masculine.... or at least something a little more manly than Michelle.....like Rahm Emanuel maybe?


Hey from what I have seen, I would tend to agree with you:

Claim: Obama hid 'gay life' to become president

Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?

But that's ok, just don't ask for the birth certificate.


Meanwhile, back in this universe ...


Are you sure you're in the right galaxy?

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Tue 12/16/14 12:27 PM


Hustling women? That would tell me the story is a sham since our POTUS is known to prefer something a little more masculine.... or at least something a little more manly than Michelle.....like Rahm Emanuel maybe?


Hey from what I have seen, I would tend to agree with you:

Claim: Obama hid 'gay life' to become president

Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?

But that's ok, just don't ask for the birth certificate.

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Tue 12/16/14 12:15 PM
Edited by alnewman on Tue 12/16/14 12:15 PM

I have a question......what if the govt. prints more Money.....would it combat the situtation or simply create more inflation?
Whatever is happening is done willingly by the Global powers that control it all....to create more chaos and confusion


Well you asked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EobPnLZiOo8

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Tue 12/16/14 12:05 PM


It also goes without saying......

Our POTUS has just topped $18 TRILLION....closer to $19T.... on our national debt clock!


What difference does it really make? Do you really think it is to be paid back?

Not really, they just want the interest; a claim on the efforts of your labors. After all, the recessions have already given them claim on what used to be your assets. Hey, isn't that slavery?

Taxation

Taxation is the claim that a group of people who call themselves "government" have been given the "right" to confiscate an arbitrarily-chosen percentage of the product of another individual's labor (a form of property), whether or not the other agrees to share that product voluntarily. Taxation is enforced by the threat of violence (behavior resulting in bodily harm) or imprisonment (the taking away of physical freedom of movement) from those whom the product is being seized attempts to resist the confiscation. This practice is always "justified" (made into a right) by those who claim that such a practice is necessary and required to "uphold the common good".

If we define slavery as the involuntary confiscation of one hundred percent of the product of the labor of another human being, we can clearly see that there is no magical percentage to which we could lower this number (other than zero percent) that would no longer constitute slavery. If we are being honest with ourselves, taxation is merely a euphemism for theft, violence, and slavery; the practices upon which it is actually based. Since no individual anywhere on earth has the "right" to claim ownership of the product of another's labor such behavior can never be "delegated" to a group and called a "right".


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Tue 12/16/14 11:56 AM


Who do big bankers realy hurt?
Trust me its not a 12yr black kid playing in a playground. Its not a 17yr walking an talking to his girlfriend with a can of soda pop an candy or selling loose cigg's to feed his kids an wife.


You're right.....to a degree.... a very small degree!

It hurts everyone! The nation, the world, and everyone in it!

How soon we forget the events and effects of 2008 it seems in our rush to claim recognition for a single cell of an entire organism! slaphead


Have you ever noticed that things keep getting worse and worse. Everyone remembers 2008, but what about 2001 or 1990 or so many others since 1913, all caused by the same thing.

But the best is yet to come. Has anyone else noticed that the remedy to the bubble bursting and recession are bailouts and building of an even larger bubble?

And now the preparations for the next bubble bursting. When will the rich have their finances all secured? Soon, and then let the fun begin.

P.S. Has anyone been keeping their ears on the foreclosure rate in Florida? Seems to be increasing at an alarming rate, end game not far away, eh?

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Tue 12/16/14 11:47 AM

Who do big bankers realy hurt?
Trust me its not a 12yr black kid playing in a playground. Its not a 17yr walking an talking to his girlfriend with a can of soda pop an candy or selling loose cigg's to feed his kids an wife.


That would be totally false. Just who do you think is really responsible for this whole mess, politicians that would sell their mom for a vote?

Wake up and smell the roses, you remember those things on the caskets at the funerals.

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Tue 12/16/14 11:44 AM

enjoy,and hoard as much Cash and valuables as you can!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/21/us-g20-banks-idUSKBN0GL0NN20140821

G20 edging towards deal on 'bail-in' bond cushion for banks

(Reuters) - Government leaders are expected to agree in November that the world's top banks must issue special bonds to increase the amount of capital which can be tapped in a crisis instead of calling on taxpayers to come to the rescue, industry and G20 officials said.

good luck on cashing the Bonds you're issued,instead of Ready Cash!laugh


http://ellenbrown.com/2014/12/01/new-rules-cyprus-style-bail-ins-to-hit-deposits-and-pensions/


New G20 Rules: Cyprus-style Bail-ins to Hit Depositors AND Pensioners
Posted on December 1, 2014 by Ellen Brown

On the weekend of November 16th, the G20 leaders whisked into Brisbane, posed for their photo ops, approved some proposals, made a show of roundly disapproving of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and whisked out again. It was all so fast, they may not have known what they were endorsing when they rubber-stamped the Financial Stability Board's Adequacy of Loss-Absorbing Capacity of Global Systemically Important Banks in Resolution, which completely changes the rules of banking.

Russell Napier, writing in ZeroHedge, called it the day money died. In any case, it may have been the day deposits died as money. Unlike coins and paper bills, which cannot be written down or given a haircut, says Napier, deposits are now just part of commercial banks capital structure. That means they can be bailed in or confiscated to save the megabanks from derivative bets gone wrong.


Cash? That stuff is almost worthless for anything outside a candy bar or McDonald's and McDonald's is becoming questionable. And for what is coming, it will be more worthless still.

Just try and pay cash for something, can't be done.

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Tue 12/16/14 11:28 AM



Congress has just put the American taxpayer on the hook once again!

With the passage of the 2015 funding bill taxpayers are once again set to cover the big banks a$$e$ (yep, with another promised bailout) while they gamble away Americas wealth and future in the corporations stock market casino.....

When you can't lose (your own money that is) you can call yourself "too big to fail" and risk it all! NO PERSONAL BANK ACCT IS SAFE!..... placed in the big banks anyway, at least those covered with FDIC insurance..... FDIC (the FED insurance nest egg for banks) only holds $250 BILLION in TOTAL reserves......guess who just got volunteered to cover the rest?!

The last fiasco of a bailout put taxpayers on the hook for a measly $900+ Billion......and we know what that caused..... now we get to cover the whole $200-300 TRILLION thanks to congress!

Got a spare $220+ TRILLION you can spare to cover their unfunded liabilities?


Hi SS....not surprising at all.....have done quite a bit of research....in short World shall be ruled by Plutocrats....and every war/conflict in the past, present & future is the result of Greed...!!!

If you can manage a copy or book by John Perkins 'Confessions Of An Economic Hitman' .....I am sure you will enjoy reading it...alternatively you can pm me your email and will send you the pdf version that I have...!!!

Thanks again for posting important stuff that really matters...!!!


How about the audiobook version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L03BHTlRfXg, it's only 9:16:09.

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Tue 12/16/14 11:25 AM


Congress has just put the American taxpayer on the hook once again!

With the passage of the 2015 funding bill taxpayers are once again set to cover the big banks a$$e$ (yep, with another promised bailout) while they gamble away Americas wealth and future in the corporations stock market casino.....

When you can't lose (your own money that is) you can call yourself "too big to fail" and risk it all! NO PERSONAL BANK ACCT IS SAFE!..... placed in the big banks anyway, at least those covered with FDIC insurance..... FDIC (the FED insurance nest egg for banks) only holds $250 BILLION in TOTAL reserves......guess who just got volunteered to cover the rest?!

The last fiasco of a bailout put taxpayers on the hook for a measly $900+ Billion......and we know what that caused..... now we get to cover the whole $200-300 TRILLION thanks to congress!

Got a spare $220+ TRILLION you can spare to cover their unfunded liabilities?


Why would this be news? For years people have been warned of the hazardous activities of these bunch of thieves but still they insist on entrusting their monies with thieves. But to be shocked when they do just what one has been warned about, that is just pure stupidity.


When is a deposit not a deposit? When it is made to a bank as a debit, a loan to the bank to be returned by their terms. It's not your money, you loaned it to them to help maintain their reserves at the FED for all those loans they wrote.

And no, they didn't lend your money, that is against the law. They can't lend the bank's money either, that is also against the law. Starting to catch on?

But to anyone that maintains any sort of monies in one of the federally chartered money center banks deserves to lose it, period. Find a credit union or at worse case a small local state chartered bank. They can't be too big to fail if they don't have any depositors.

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Tue 12/16/14 10:41 AM
Letter #5 to Torture Loving Dick Cheney, vice president again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQFy2p3cJDc

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Tue 12/16/14 10:35 AM


Go figure.....

IT IS time for Australia to end its strategic dependence on the United States. The relationship with America, which has long been regarded as beneficial, has now become dangerous to Australia’s future. We have effectively ceded to America the ability to decide when Australia goes to war. Even if America were the most perfect and benign power, this posture would still be incompatible with the integrity of Australia as a sovereign nation. It entails not simply deference but submission to Washington, an intolerable state of affairs for a country whose power and prosperity are increasing and whose national interests dictate that it enjoy amicable, not hostile, relations with its neighbors, including China.

There are several steps that Australia should take to rectify its previous shortcomings. For a start, the US task force in Darwin would need to be moved to some other location outside Australia. This should be possible to accomplish in a relatively short time frame. The facility at Pine Gap would need to be closed, as we cannot control how America uses the intelligence it gathers from that site. Because it is a complex facility, we should give America time to do this—perhaps four or five years. However, Australians working at the base should be withdrawn at the end of six months.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-australias-dangerous-ally-11858


Sadly, this was by a former Prime Minister. Will something actually happen, probably not.

That is too bad as what he has written is so true. This government is not only a danger to Australia, but to this country as well.

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Mon 12/15/14 07:51 PM





but too often, those taken from their families have their pasts instantly COMBED THrough for any and every past discretion, they are immediately painted as the thug who just got what they 'deserved',,,


and it seems to happen MOST often with minorities,,,


Michael Brown's "past discretion" took place just before he encountered the cop who killed him, and that "discretion" was clearly a crime.


certainly did

he grabbed someone (who never called in a crime and walked away unscathed)

he stole some cigarettes

he got in a struggle with an officer

,,EXCEPT for that last event, nothing warrants death,,,and the last event had ENDED , struggle discontinued,,, by the time he was killed

IF he had been killed DURING a struggle, there would be less to dispute

being killed after traveling over a hundred feet from the vehicle/altercation by foot, without a weapon,, again causes me to not agree that a death penalty is warranted,,,





I am with you this did not warrant a death penalty ...just as the court allowed to kill Travon becouse of a stand your ground law ...know darn well if he would have never gotten out of that car and did as what was told ...that boy would be alive now ... unarmed u shoot to kill ...shakes head ... there is no in between they need to make a in between ...so others have and can have the right to their trial and chance for their life ...


their will always be another group come out to say there where a lot of mistakes but not one to face any truth ...just what their truth is the opposite of the dead person ...kill and not be able to speak for them self... and blatantly ... I can't breath just said it all ... are you working with professionals that should know how to take down and not kill another for arrest ...


I agree. Nothing occurred that warranted the "death penalty" in either case.

The problem I have is with blanket statements like "they should be trained to take down and not kill". Statements like these are made by those with no experience or training.

The federal government spent hundreds of thousands training me to deal with potentially deadly situations. I can tell you, that one of the biggest lessons I have learned is the fact that no training will make you a superhero. A few (or even a few thousand) hours of "training" won't allow you to "take down" any suspect. Real life does not work like that. Just a like a gun will not make a dark alley safe, martial arts training will not make it safe to allow a deadly threat to get close to you.

If the story the officer was telling were true (there is evidence supporting him and nothing given to the contrary), a perfect do-gooder-boy scout would done the same thing. If your job were to protect and serve and you were attacked by a psychopath who made an attempt at your life, you would be endangering everyone community by not doing SOMETHING. And when that psychopath turned and ran at you for getting out of the car, you would be endangering yourself and the community by giving him a fighting chance against you.

Note: I am not saying that the cop was a "goody two shoes", but what I am saying is that a "goody two shoes" would have done the same thing in the same situation.

The flip side to this all, is the fact that if the officer had the training, and reckless mentality to take this guy down hand to hand, people would be still be trying to crucify him for "using excessive force to beat up an innocent black kid".


What you are describing is a society that has degraded into a society suffering from Moral Relativism. A society where malum in se and malum prohibitum are one and the same.

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Mon 12/15/14 07:44 PM

believe as you wish Al...

and do you think i give a crap about the proper use of contrary...


Obviously not but it gave me some perverse joy and now to get even greater returns.....


hehehe...

only those that seek knowledge to prove to them self they are wise would give two cents about that in this context.


Ah, but another twist on reality, those that need to somehow prove to any they are wise would be a contradiction in terms and to those that do not seek knowledge for the pure sake of knowledge would be very unwise indeed.


well, i can feel one would say ya nothing new in the universe...

but each day be new, for those who pay attention.

nothing is repeat.

it be only those who sea through eye's of self validation emotions that believe such illusions.


Illusions, a disease of those that cannot fathom reality. And each passing day is not new, just a repeat of those that have past. Each day just a minute scrap in the scheme of time. And this earth from a hunk of molten rock to the present and on into oblivion, nothing new, just a repeat of past and portend of the future for all the universe.


we have never been totally populated, nearing 8 billion, up 6 billion in about 80 years!

we have NEVER BEEN HERE.

Before the 20th century, no human had lived through a doubling of the human population, but there are people alive today who have seen it triple.


Sure have, but drop the "we". That is the misnomer, trying to define infinity by the lifespan of a being. Throughout time, different species have seen much larger explosions of populations, insects by multiples of thousands within a life span that could be measured in days.

When one fails to understand the larger perspective, they get caught in a rut which is but a grave with the ends kicked out. There are two very large perspectives within the larger picture of this planet: 1) earth by nature is self healing; 2) humans are not required for the planet to continue to evolve.

There are times of feast and times of famine. Population is a self curing trait which this planet will soon get to learn by experience.


we are in exponential territory...

if one look into the mathematics of the matter, one would sea we are in totally new waters...

exponential is critical mass...

where each 10th year, the consumption of ALL commodities, food, energy, waste, etc, etc, be greater than the entire previous nine years added together...

our current systems cannot sustain that.

and many many many know this, who surround them self with the greatest scientific brains alive, to chart the course of world management.


Ah, the fallacy of the millennium, thinking man can somehow chart a course using these so called "scientific" brains. Just how do you think we have gotten to this point in time?


we have never had all continents totally instantly interconnected, creating instant exponential emotional transfer across the entire globe.

what you deem be but repeats is as original as anything can be.

but this topic is supposed to be about hell, and i am not going to hi-jack it...


Too late to be concerned about hi-jacking a topic wouldn't you say? But relax, it's not a hi-jack. You are describing a pure hell right here on this earth. Something one need not go to, it has come to them. But the picture is not complete, the "New World Order" wants to complete that picture for them.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson.


start a new thread if ya wanna hash it out some more.

your not convincing me and i'm not convincing you.

like we agreed.

may the widest, longest, most adaptive and exhaustive unbiased insight toward any individual or certain group succeed.


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