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Fri 11/20/09 09:47 PM




Jesus may forgive, but the State prosecutes.


That's exactly it. Then there is morality, coming in two flavours: Societal moral code and personal moral judgement.

So we have to balance four things here:
1. Law
2. Religion
3. Morality
4. Personal bias.

Can NOT be done. Despite the very fact that the four have very common elements, views, opinions and directions. Still can't balance all four.

And therefore something has to give each time there is a discrepancy.
how true u r:angel: waving


Whow. First time a slim babe with real skin over her flesh agreed with me in what must be like 28-35 years.

I took out the s from "fours". I had to. It would have seemed like someone's so wasted that they fall down when they crawl. I did make that typo, in the original thread, which I edited out just now. My apologies.
hey my friend truth is truth no bull $HIT

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Fri 11/20/09 08:58 PM


:thumbsup: i agree with u all the way:angel: waving

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Fri 11/20/09 07:45 PM


Jesus may forgive, but the State prosecutes.


That's exactly it. Then there is morality, coming in two flavours: Societal moral code and personal moral judgement.

So we have to balance four things here:
1. Law
2. Religion
3. Morality
4. Personal bias.

Can NOT be done. Despite the very fact that the four have very common elements, views, opinions and directions. Still can't balance all fours.

And therefore something has to give each time there is a discrepancy.
how true u r:angel: waving

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Fri 11/20/09 07:44 PM

I didn't read the thread. And it's probably already been stated. But you can't force someone to be rehabilitated. They have to WANT it.
flowerforyou howdy stranger,how u been? and i couldnt agree with u more been there done that with my son and a few close friend's.:angel: waving

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Fri 11/20/09 07:43 PM

thank you flowers
smooched yer more than welcome:angel: winking

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Fri 11/20/09 07:29 PM



ya all you do is sit but a an r is the worse
:thumbsup: good for u.look's like u have a good reason to quit and stay out of those ate up places:angel: winking
he is not mine but i say out off trouble any way my little bro needs a baby sitter all the time so i spoil him and send him home
:heart: keep bein that good big bro.but u sure look sexy with lil bro n yer arm's:wink: :angel: winking

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Fri 11/20/09 07:17 PM

ya all you do is sit but a an r is the worse
:thumbsup: good for u.look's like u have a good reason to quit and stay out of those ate up places:angel: winking

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Fri 11/20/09 07:13 PM


a lil late but hope this find's yer mother out of icu and doing well prayers will keep coming.:angel: waving

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Fri 11/20/09 06:53 PM




Jail is for punishment. I agree there needs to be more programs and funding for rehab... during and AFTER they get out of jail. But, if they commited a crime, whether they were a drug addict or not, they have to be held responsible and do the time.


I agree if a crime is committed.. what if their crime is that they are an addict..they didn't pass their piss test, therefore violating probation, and going back to jail for that..are they are criminal or an addict?


No, if a crime was committed, for which they were sentenced to probation... they promised to abide by the rules of probation. If they broke those rules by using drugs...

That is like saying F-You to the judge, the whole legal system. I know FOR A FACT that if you go to your probation officer and say, I'm using. I need help... they will place them in treatment. But if you break the law under the influence that does NOT excuse the fact you broke the law. Prison is not for treatment and neither is it for rehabilitation. However, on the positive side it is much harder to find drugs in jail and less so in prison so that could be viewed as a jump start to sobriety and treatment.


If one goes to the probation officer and says I need help, I'm struggling with my addiction...here in my town I know for a fact they do not have a program. I speak factually because I know first hand, I am referring to my own son. His probation officer told him he better piss clean and hold down his job and make the fine payments...otherwise he was in violation and would go back to jail. My son has not been to prison, he is not a felon...this is through the County Jail system. Maybe in prison ya get more help, hopefully we will never find out.
noway state prisons r a lot worse.i know from my son.and i know just what u mean about no prgrams so they just send them back and all most care about is a pay ck and how many they can knock down

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Fri 11/20/09 06:49 PM


I hate to be the one to point out the obvious.

People strapping on a buzz ain't the problem.

People being dumb enough to caught is the damned problem.

Think of how much it would save our society if people could be level headed enough to stop being so damned obvious.


There is a cycle that starts once the person is caught ...there are fines, and piss tests. If they are not done the way the probation officer says they are back in jail for non compliance.
Of course NOT getting caught in the first place would help.. however some do and so begins the cycle.

And you do not hate being the one to point out the obvious...:tongue: i have to agree with many of u on this topic.i have beeen through it with my son and numerous friend's.those who r serious about quiting have no prob n rehab,but those out there who know how to play the system do cause it's easy street for them.and dont give a darn

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Fri 11/20/09 06:44 PM
flowerforyou :heart: u r a great grandma.tell yer grandson HAPPY BIRTHDAY EARLY.:angel: waving

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Thu 11/12/09 10:41 PM
:heart:

bigsmile I really am a little monkeybigsmile
:heart: smokin ya u r but a great one:angel: waving

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Thu 11/12/09 10:26 PM
waving howdy and hope u have fun :banana: we all r a lil crazy around here

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Thu 11/12/09 10:23 PM

Hummm tell ya what we will talk as soon as I see that 4 bedroom brick home, 2 carat diamond ring and a brand new crew cab sitting in the drive way all in my name............:thumbsup: bigsmile Ohhh and fully furnished with my choice of furniture.
:banana: u go kristi i think u might b the lucky one lol.:angel: waving

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Thu 11/12/09 10:18 PM
:banana: flowers happy for u.good luck on new job and watch out for those tweeking hookers lol.:angel: waving

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Thu 11/12/09 10:14 PM


we allways welcome newbies.have fun and look out for us cougars:wink: a lot of great folks here some of us r like family.

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Sat 11/07/09 10:45 PM


:angel: prayers r sent out everyday.hope yer friend gets better soon.please keep us posted

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Sat 11/07/09 10:42 PM

That's the most important thing...for the time that you have left, to make it quality. He will take your love with him, and he will leave his with you. flowerforyou :heart:
:angel: couldnt have said it better myself,how true it is what u said.prayers r there every day popcorn

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Tue 10/20/09 05:12 PM


:banana: :banana: drinks drinks i'm late n posting as i knew about it this afternoon:heart: so congrats again sissmooched :angel: waving


thank you again lil sis hes prefect:smile:
drinks smokin :banana: yer welcome my wonderfull big sis:heart: i celebrated for u last nt:wink:

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Mon 10/19/09 07:14 PM
:banana: :banana: drinks drinks i'm late n posting as i knew about it this afternoon:heart: so congrats again sissmooched :angel: waving