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No, I just think that the Incest excuse for why Abortion must be legal is ridiculous. If you have to libel me to feel like you have made a point, then you have issue. If you are willing to commit libel and accept fallacious logic to hold onto your beloved right to infanticide, then that's your problem and one I am very happy to not share in. Now that you know that my friend's 12 yr. old daughter was raped by her step-dad and he is in prison for 15 yrs..... Now that you know that there is an older man on the next street from me that served time for raping a minor family member.... Now that you know that there's many cases of it in the news... I'll tell you about another friend. Her Uncle molested her and her sisters. They never talked about it until they were adults. Yep, incest is an excuse. WTF?! Let's say that 1% of Abortions are due to incest, does the 1% excuse the other 99%? I don't oppose abortions due to incest, but I do oppose abortions for frivolous reasons. Incest, rape and life of the mother are the only morally and ethically acceptable reasons for abortions. I know someone who got an abortion because she didn't want to deal with another kid. I know someone who has gotten several abortions because she doesn't like to use birth control. Those are not legitimate reasons to kill another human being. Be that as it may, if Roe v. Wade is overturned and abortion becomes criminalized, abortions will STILL happen - just more dangerous and deadly ones. You may not personally agree with abortion, but to make it illegal is just plain stupid. |
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I just learned a new word. 
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I just learned a new word.
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I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks? My position is that women are more likely to get an abortion to save their looks than they are because they were raped by their fathers. I don't want to run off on any tangents. If you want to argue against my position, please do so. Just curious, do you know any women who have gotten abortions because of looks? Nope. I don't know any that got abortions because of incest either. I did read about a woman who left her two babies in the car while she was getting her hair and nails done and they both died from sunstroke. It seems she was a bit more concerned about her looks than her kids. So are you just a misogynist then, or what? |
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Do we really need two abortion threads?
Of course I'm pro-choice.
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Pro Life?....
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blackxbird
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Mon 10/20/08 09:27 PM
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Plenty of women are capable of being strong and independent without being insulting, rude, and belittling. Might want to look into it. I'm sorry, have I addressed you directly? You are whom again? Hi, I am a real person, who doesn't need permission to speak to you directly before doing so. Thanks for your concern, though. Oh super so I can dismiss you like I do everyone else who has nothing to add to the conversation besides pointing out my lack of ....whatever I lack.... Ohhh boy! Hear that? I'm dismissed!  Better not say anything more!
Edit: 100 posts!
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nope. back to the drawing board. ugh. how about if i transplant a uterus into my stomach? It wouldn't work.... I can sit on a toilet seat that has sperm on it and get pregnant... What would it take for you to get pregnant again? Oh right, not possible in nature in the slightest... Yep, I'm taking the 100% decision making abilities back... ok well feel free to procreate with whatever slack jawed midgets are willing to do it then. and the toilet seat is a rumor. sperm being to die immediately on coming into contact with oxygen. youre so silly. remember our talk about facts? What's your degree again? Cuz mine is Community Health Education.... You wanna talk reproductive facts? Didn't think so. well wehred ya get your degree a cracker jack box? you cant get pregnant fomr a toilet seat. the sperm die, means they dont swim, means they cant get ot or through the egg. and you lack tact and class and refinement. you also lack basic social skills. but we love you some anyways.
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Plenty of women are capable of being strong and independent without being insulting, rude, and belittling. Might want to look into it. I'm sorry, have I addressed you directly? You are whom again? Hi, I am a real person, who doesn't need permission to speak to you directly before doing so. Thanks for your concern, though. |
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lol thats fine, but youre acting like if there wer no men lily women would find a way to keep the species going. just because idiots are willing to sell their sperm and what not doesnt mean we all are. my sperm were good to me, and ima miss them, so you women need to treat balls with more love and respect. cause testis make babies too. you need Xs and Ys. Let me elaborate here, I'm sorry if I have mis informed anyone of my views. I love men...REAL men, strong men, strong sensitive men, men who are intelligent, men who turn to logic to solve problems... My daughter would not be here if it were not for her father. However even her father, now that we are no longer together knew better than to do the things he did when I was unable to speak for myself and when I woke up and was told of what decision he made, quite frankly that is what ruined our marriage. I do feel very strongly about women's rights, that does not make me a man hater in any way shape or form, it makes me a strong independant woman, who can only be with a self assured strong independant man. NO PANSEY ASSES NEED APPLY. Plenty of women are capable of being strong and independent without being insulting, rude, and belittling. Might want to look into it. |
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This discussion has gotten a little out of hand with personal attacks and such... can't we disagree and still be mutually respectful?
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I have posted several times in here and have gone thru and re read all the posts and stand by my first one... What blows my mind is this.... MEN think that this is some easy decision for a woman to make.. like what color shoes to wear with her new dress...come on now... I dont think its the norm for women to use abortion as birth control, in fact i think its quite the opposite,, give us a little credit will you?? 
Not just men, but some women, apparently, too... Abortion is not a light matter, and in my experience the women who treat it like just another form of birth control are few and far between. |
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the statistics I reported were for Winx...she wanted to see some numbers in regards to rape in the context of abortion...so...for all of you loud mouthed ...guilt ridden pain in the asses...fugg off !!...
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I don't understand why a lot of people get upset over gay marriage. And to those people all I have to say is, Why do you care? You don't have to go to the wedding, or buy them anything. It doesn't effect you. Maybe they care that they will have to explain to their kids why god says it's wrong, but people do it anyway and we have to tolerate it. 1.) Not everyone believes in your god. 2.) And I have to tolerate your narrow-minded views. We're even. Okay...look....! If you want to be a thundering, god hating, man hating....burning hot Lezzy...that's fine, who cares. But don't keep attacking people that think you're a freak. 1.) What is it with you and assuming everyone who is pro-gay rights is.... gay? I'm not a lesbian. 2.) Last time I checked, I wasn't attacking anyone... that's you. I'm simply stating facts. |
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I don't understand why a lot of people get upset over gay marriage. And to those people all I have to say is, Why do you care? You don't have to go to the wedding, or buy them anything. It doesn't effect you. Maybe they care that they will have to explain to their kids why god says it's wrong, but people do it anyway and we have to tolerate it. 1.) Not everyone believes in your god. 2.) And I have to tolerate your narrow-minded views. We're even. |
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I Googled Rape / Abortion and this is the first bit of info that came up...I said 2% were attributed to rape...I was wrong as you can see... Reasons for abortions In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.[9] Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[10] 25.5% Want to postpone childbearing 21.3% Cannot afford a baby 14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy 12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy 10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job 7.9% Want no (more) children 3.3% Risk to fetal health 2.8% Risk to maternal health 2.1% Other 1.) Source? 2.) Rape is dramatically under reported. 3.) What does the second study prove? |
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{{{{IZ}}}} Bravo to you for coming out and telling the truth on such a touchy subject.. Lets just say that those with out a uterus HAVE NO IDEA how hard the decision you made was.. They can NOT possibly fathom the agony you went thru in making that decision...so dont let em get to you All I have to say to you , is you did what was right for YOU !!! HUGE HUGS FOR YA DARLIN!!!! I am pro-life for me, but pro-choice for everyone else, I have a different story. I wanted my whole life to be a mother, I got married I was married for four years and we decided it was time to start trying. I lost 2 children the third stayed with me, at 28 weeks of pregnancy I had blood clots in my lungs three of them, they did everything they could, I am also diabetic and have had weak kidneys in the past, with all the meds they pumped into me, I slipped into a coma at 30 weeks. My daughter was taken C-section while I was in a coma, my ex husband was my power of attny. Before the C-section he signed papers to have my tubes tied cut and burned so that I would never have to go through it again. (not his choice, my choice but whatever) My daughter was born two months premature and was on a ventilator and in an incubator for weeks, her tiny little body couldn't survive on it's own. I went through a series of blood transfustions and my health was destroyed for about 2 years after, my kidneys shut down from the meds. (I'm fine today) I went through that, and would do it again in a heartbeat to have my angel on earth, the love of my life, the reason I breath....but would I subject someone else to that? NO that's not for me to decide. I was given the option to abort for my own health and at the time they thought my life, I refused I put my faith in the Goddess to get me through what she took me to. I didn't chose wrong FOR ME. I respect women's rights ALL women, if I agree with them personally or not. Who am I to judge someone for making a decision about HER life? I would be a pretty sh*tty person to judge. For all of you anti-choicers out there.... It is sad that you don't have any compassion in your hearts for people. and as Missy said if you don't have a uterous....IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. I'm sorry about what has happened to you, and I hope all is better, but you are only looking at one point of view. Now imagine a girl, raped by her uncle, pregnant. Doesnt matter if she has a hard time having kids, she's not going to want that kid. And what if the doctors tell you that having this kid would be like having a vegetable? and so on... In all honesty that happens very, very rarely. So? Does that devalue the experience, pain, and struggles of those it does happen to? |
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it amazes me how Liberals ALWAYS use rape...to promote and make right abortion...seeing that 98% of abortions are done because the mother decided she didn't want to keet the child...it's a travesty that in this day and age...with alllllllllllllll the forms of birth control...that we still have 1.4 million " accidents "...a year...please...it's very simple...if you don't want to get pregnant...but...find that your urges are just too overpowering...then please...USE PROTECTION !!...and please don't give me the accident bull !!...use two forms then...make it three...do I hear four ?...come on already...it may be legal...but...IT'S WRONG !!! Funny, don't think I mentioned rape. Do you have a source for that statistic, or did you just make it up? I stand by statements made in my previous post. |
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OK, I've had my bi-monthly dose of this chat stuff. I hope you all enjoyed it as much as me. lol But hey...there IS an outside world. Seriously, I do not consider myself ignorant, a redneck or a hater. I'm quite certain that every person that knows me also does not think that of me at all. Just not one to hold back in my opinions or back down from...anything. I'm a helper and a good friend to those that are honorable. I'm that guy that breaks up a fight and keeps the peace, stops even when Im in a hurry to help you on the side of the road, and fixes your car, not just give you a ride as far as Im going, buys you a meal or some gas to get home on, fixes your computer...and car if I love you. lol The question was gay marriage and, as I said, I'm against it. I'm also against cheating on my girl, stealing, lying, hurting people and general bad behavior. I have values based on what my mother and father and grandparents taught me, not what the media tells us that we should believe. So take em with a grain of whatever you need and realize that I'm not alone by any means in my beliefs. Have a great weekend everyone...fags included. lol Despite claiming not to be a redneck, hater or ignorant, it seems that whenever you open your mouth or type, that's all that's broadcast. You are holding on to old views and not being remotely open to new views. That, by definition, is ignorance. You aren't against gay marriage. You are against gay. There is a big difference. Gay marriage would, semantically, challenge the current definition of marriage between a man and a woman. If you were only against that, you wouldn't refer to gay people as fags and call them child molesters. Actually, if I only read what you posted here, I would think you were nothing more than an ignorant, Stars and Bars flyin', hate spewing piece of white trash that would be better off falling in the combine you're driving. But, hey, that's just my opinion. Well, Coming from a lesbian who will not even post her real photo and who apparently has WAY too much alone time, that doesn't hurt my feelings at all. I AM against gay marriage and gays in general. I do not want to be around them, listen to their "views" or watch them strutting around flaunting how sick they are. Been there, done that. If someones gay, it would be nice if I were not sure of it from their behaviors. I don't go around grabbing my girls ass and tits in public and displaying how we're gonna do it tonight. As for the Stars & Bars, nah. I am for equal rights for everyone BORN into a situation. My two best friends in the world are black and I have some Arab friends too, against popular sentiment. I just KNOW that the fags that I have known, when they get to talking, say they were molested. And you may think me a redneck little girl, but I'm just a serious man. Actually I am an old hippie, but a Southern hippie thats had a fair share of fights with REAL rednecks in my youth. I'm not sure you understand what a redneck really is...in Southern terms anyway. They didn't like hippies and mistakenly believed them to be easy prey. Hard lessons those rednecks get from time to time. As for new views, I don't need em. New science, new technology, new freinds..I can do that. But "new views" tend to be liberals touting BS political correctness and trying to make everything seem OK. Gang members are just misunderstood, fags were born that way, we need to save everyone on the planet but ourselves. I believe in accountability, not enabling perverse or criminal behavior. I have whats called morals and they include the important ones, like do not steal, lie, cheat, hurt people, screw my friends wife. They do not include giving my approval to sick people. And they ARE sick. And, sorry to bust your little angry bubble but I don't go out and beat up fags either. But I'm not making any friends with them either. I find the behavior sick, reprehensible and I believe that they are a danger to the core of society, just like political correctness and liberal propaganda. I'm talking to a wall here though. You need to feel like you are OK and doing nothing wrong so you lash out when someone differs with your perverse lifestyle. Thats OK by me. But I believe I'll just stay straight and see things clearly, not painted through pretty rose colored glasses. If gay is so natural then tell me why your body is not built with two sets of sex organs...male and female. Men and women are at LEAST biologically meant to be together. I find it disgusting and sick that these faggots put their business up some guys dirty ass and call it love. As I said I S**t out that. It isnt made for entry by anything. One last thing. I know what a combine is but I'm a computer systems engineer with a Masters in Electrical Engineering and 35 years computert hardware and systems/applications programming experience. But I never drove a combine. Or a tractor...or a mule. You may feel free to come on down to LA and see that we're not a bunch of redneck idiots...and I'll even rent you a mule to spend the night with. May as well try that too...right? 
Is it impossible to find a single grain of tolerance in the world today? Just as you find homosexuals "disgusting and sick," that is the opinion I have of you. I don't care if you don't think homosexuality is "normal," I don't care if you think it's a choice or if we're born with it, I don't care if you think it's part of some liberal agenda to drag America down into the pits of socialism... the amount of blind hatred you write with when talking about this subject is frightening and sad. You have a right to your opinions... but know that others do, too. Just because someone does not share your view of homosexuality does not mean they see things "through rose colored glasses." You accuse them of "lashing out when someone differs from your perverse lifestyle," which is ironic, because you are lashing out right now at those whose views differ from your closed-minded, ignorant and offensive statements. |
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Now this is the topic of the day, who is pro life, and who isn't and why. i'm only pro life when it comes to abortions but when it comes to the death penalty,i say kill'em! what decision? "oh i spread my legs and got pregnant so lets kill the result of my irresponsibility and go on living my life" that decision? First, you are a guy, so your opinion to me is a moot point because you will never be faced with a decision where one of the options is abortion. A man could have sex with dozens of women and never face the "consequences" of his actions. Second, to pretend that the only reason women have abortions is because they are "irresponsible," and that the decision to have an abortion is a light and trivial matter, is ignorant and offensive. There are so many situations that could cause for an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy. Third, women will continue to have abortions, whether it is legal or not. Criminalizing abortion will only cause more injury and death as women seek dangerous alternative methods of ending their pregnancies. |
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Pro-choice, without a doubt. Can't say any more or I will get angry and cause a sh1tstorm.
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