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Thu 02/27/14 06:04 PM












I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others?


no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone.

James 1:22-25

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
NKJV

actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r

May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach.


Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise


Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise.

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers


The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality.


What do you see when he is talking about looking in the mirror and then when he goes away forgets what kind of man he is. It is a part of where judging comes from. If you see no fault in yourself then you are judging others not to be like you. Your judging yourself to be better than others.

Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show someone where they are going wrong. James verses refer to everyone. Judge not look at yourself but this is the outside world Yahweh will judge them. homosexuality is just one sin. The sin of not being Hospitabal was a grave sin and still is. Notice what Abraham and Lot treated strangers

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Thu 02/27/14 04:33 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Thu 02/27/14 04:36 PM









I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others?


no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone.

James 1:22-25

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
NKJV

actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r

May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach.


Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite many people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise

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Thu 02/27/14 04:17 PM







I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others?


no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone.

James 1:22-25

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
NKJV

actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r

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Thu 02/27/14 04:09 PM






I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


What in the world are you talking about? Please elaborate with verses showing such claims.


Matthew 7
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?



This is how believers are to judge among themselves. Math. 7 speaks of you do not have the right to judge when u r sinning yourself or doing the same thing. it is an explanation taking a good look at yourself.

Math 18 speaks of the Body of Messiah judgin it self and the correct way to do it.

Matt 18:15-20

"Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

18 "Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

19 "Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."
NKJV


2 or 3 coming to a conclusion is part of the law. 1 witness is never enough. but to go to your brother in private about a sin is brotherly love.

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Thu 02/27/14 01:42 PM






I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


Yes people should worry about themselves. The bible judgements are for those who claim to believe. Judgement between countries are different. Judgement in this country has gone wild. Look in your lawyers office and see how many books are laws for judgement. thousands of more laws than the bible has. Judgement is a fact of life. It is how you do it. Who you do it to. Rules are everywhere

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Thu 02/27/14 01:12 PM




I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?

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Sun 02/23/14 08:56 AM






The bible is an accumulation of writings by many unidentified people describing events and conversations that they cannot be shown to have witnessed. Those writings were made decades or generations after the supposed events and the writers' sources of information are unknown. Three hundred years after Jesus died committees of churchmen under the direction of Roman emperors decided what was to be included in a "unifying document" (to reduce disagreements within the church) that became known as the bible. They selected material that suited the purposes of the emperors and themselves, rejecting documents having different viewpoints. The religion became the official religion of the Roman empire.

The Old Testament is taken directly from the Jewish Torah but is interpreted by Christians differently than by Jews. The New Testament was added and Jesus was introduced as the messiah promised by Judaism (but not accepted by Jews as such). Jesus was evidently a preacher (Jewish rabbi) who gained a following for a short time before being executed for sedition (rebelling against Roman rule and against Jewish Temple priests).

After Jesus died his followers created a splinter group religion (contrary to what Jesus is said to have wanted), claimed that he came back to life and then went away, and told stories about him performing "miracles" (that were not reported anywhere but in the religious writings – and cannot be shown to be true). It is claimed that the storied miracles and resurrection proved that Jesus was divine. Not everyone agrees.

Many regard the bible as the word of god – although it was written, edited, transcribed, and repeatedly revised by humans telling their opinions and stories about god. The thousands of Christian sects, denominations, cults, splinter groups do not agree about which version of the bible to use or about how it is to be interpreted (but all seem convinced they alone are right).

There is some good advice in the bible and some terrible advice, some useful rules for living and some rules that are irrational, some wisdom and some ignorance, some stories about love and compassion and many stories about killing and warfare (even genocide).





The bible is an accumulation of writings by many unidentified people describing events and conversations that they cannot be shown to have witnessed.


The bible's information, not necassarily Jesus being God or anything of such, but the incidents that happen in through the scriptures have many external sources backing that those things actually happened. For a simple example - Jesus' crucifixion. A man truly lived by the name of Jesus and was crucified for the things that the scriptures claim.

Nobody can find God by reading the bible, it's a good start to learn about God, but nevertheless you can't find him there in that exact context. Not like for example an atheist reads the scriptures and all of a sudden everything makes sense. Takes work, time, and desire to find.


They selected material that suited the purposes of the emperors and themselves, rejecting documents having different viewpoints. The religion became the official religion of the Roman empire


How do the scriptures suite the purposes of the emperors? It's not like the scriptures say obey the government without question or giving them any specific power over any specific person(s).


If you read about the Council of Nicea in 325ad you wiill see that after Constantines conversion he was sure Yahweh was on his side. He wanted this to be a state religion as many aspects between Roman soldiers who Practiced Zorastrism with thier Messiah Being Mithra who baptised in Blood. Then the pagan Sun worship.
Both Pagans and Zorastrism worship the beginning of life coming back again after the winter soltice. Mithra birthday was celebrated on the 25th of Dec the same day as the pagans under constantines control.

Mixing the religions and some giving and some getting. The jews were decided to seperate from them by showing the Torah as not needed in this blended religion. Sunday was also worshipped by both the groups not the believers. Passover was changed to Easter or o ester as the OT calls her the Queen of Heaven. It was chaged from the death of the messiah to a Queen of Heaven bringing in spring as this was a fertility festival to.. This is why we see Bunny Rabbits and egs today on Easter.

So much was done about the Cannon at that time. Those thier is History on who taught the 7th day Sabbath and Constantine put out a decree if you worshipped on the sabbath and was not a jew you were to be executed. It's good to be the Emperor.

All these suited the Emperor to control the masses. 1 religion 1 faith less conflict and he would be more informed on those who disobeyed him



So much was done about the Cannon at that time. Those thier is History on who taught the 7th day Sabbath and Constantine put out a decree if you worshipped on the sabbath and was not a jew you were to be executed. It's good to be the Emperor.


Why refer to irrelevant things? You will not find anything in the scriptures that suggest that should be done. That is merely a person's actions and doesn't reflect the actual belief in itself.


Mixing the religions and some giving and some getting. The jews were decided to seperate from them by showing the Torah as not needed in this blended religion.


Where is this evidence that it was "mixed"? And again, what blended religion? And did they say it was not neeeded? Because I do believe the first part of the bible is the tora eg., old testament lol.

And it's not that the tora wasn't needed, just that it was fulfilled, completed, finished through Jesus' crucifixion. And so yeah then making it irrelevant, obsolete.


The Sabbath is not relevent?

when John wrote this was he changing the sabbath?

Rev 12:17
17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
NKJV


Now what are the commandments of Yahweh? What is the Testimony?

This is very relevent. Constantine was the 1st Pope not Peter. Constantine changed the Sabbath you can not find it changed until him.

Anyone who keeps Sunday Sabbath is a Follower of the Popes church.

The mixing was christmas, easter and Sunday worship. All Pagan and Zorastorian worship. we got a savior they got the days of worship.

That is mixing religion do any search about christmas and it will show you.

The Torah was always spiritual and i guess Yahshua's sermon on the Mount about the law he was just joking.. He was explaining u need to learn through the physical to really understand the spiritual.. anyway why did Yahshua say this?

Matt 5:21-22

"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother,'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says,'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
NKJV

Matt 5:27-30

"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
NKJV


These laws are no good today?



when John wrote this was he changing the sabbath?

Rev 12:17
17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
NKJV


Now you're taking verses out of context. You do realize "Revelations" are prophecies right? The Sabbath was created -
Genesis 2
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


This is very relevent. Constantine was the 1st Pope not Peter. Constantine changed the Sabbath you can not find it changed until him.


Again no, God had created the Sabbath when he created everything else, no man created the sabbath.

Genesis 2
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Matt 5:21-22

"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother,'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says,'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
NKJV


Nothing necassarily "changed" here, just got more intense. He said in the old days eg., the laws of "Torah" or the "old laws". We were judged for actually committing the sin. Now it's more strict that whosoever even thinks about doing it has already committed it in their heart.

Same with the other verse.


your right i have no idea about what the chosen will be doing when Yahshua comes back.. Christmas I Bet

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Sat 02/22/14 06:56 PM




The bible is an accumulation of writings by many unidentified people describing events and conversations that they cannot be shown to have witnessed. Those writings were made decades or generations after the supposed events and the writers' sources of information are unknown. Three hundred years after Jesus died committees of churchmen under the direction of Roman emperors decided what was to be included in a "unifying document" (to reduce disagreements within the church) that became known as the bible. They selected material that suited the purposes of the emperors and themselves, rejecting documents having different viewpoints. The religion became the official religion of the Roman empire.

The Old Testament is taken directly from the Jewish Torah but is interpreted by Christians differently than by Jews. The New Testament was added and Jesus was introduced as the messiah promised by Judaism (but not accepted by Jews as such). Jesus was evidently a preacher (Jewish rabbi) who gained a following for a short time before being executed for sedition (rebelling against Roman rule and against Jewish Temple priests).

After Jesus died his followers created a splinter group religion (contrary to what Jesus is said to have wanted), claimed that he came back to life and then went away, and told stories about him performing "miracles" (that were not reported anywhere but in the religious writings – and cannot be shown to be true). It is claimed that the storied miracles and resurrection proved that Jesus was divine. Not everyone agrees.

Many regard the bible as the word of god – although it was written, edited, transcribed, and repeatedly revised by humans telling their opinions and stories about god. The thousands of Christian sects, denominations, cults, splinter groups do not agree about which version of the bible to use or about how it is to be interpreted (but all seem convinced they alone are right).

There is some good advice in the bible and some terrible advice, some useful rules for living and some rules that are irrational, some wisdom and some ignorance, some stories about love and compassion and many stories about killing and warfare (even genocide).





The bible is an accumulation of writings by many unidentified people describing events and conversations that they cannot be shown to have witnessed.


The bible's information, not necassarily Jesus being God or anything of such, but the incidents that happen in through the scriptures have many external sources backing that those things actually happened. For a simple example - Jesus' crucifixion. A man truly lived by the name of Jesus and was crucified for the things that the scriptures claim.

Nobody can find God by reading the bible, it's a good start to learn about God, but nevertheless you can't find him there in that exact context. Not like for example an atheist reads the scriptures and all of a sudden everything makes sense. Takes work, time, and desire to find.


They selected material that suited the purposes of the emperors and themselves, rejecting documents having different viewpoints. The religion became the official religion of the Roman empire


How do the scriptures suite the purposes of the emperors? It's not like the scriptures say obey the government without question or giving them any specific power over any specific person(s).


If you read about the Council of Nicea in 325ad you wiill see that after Constantines conversion he was sure Yahweh was on his side. He wanted this to be a state religion as many aspects between Roman soldiers who Practiced Zorastrism with thier Messiah Being Mithra who baptised in Blood. Then the pagan Sun worship.
Both Pagans and Zorastrism worship the beginning of life coming back again after the winter soltice. Mithra birthday was celebrated on the 25th of Dec the same day as the pagans under constantines control.

Mixing the religions and some giving and some getting. The jews were decided to seperate from them by showing the Torah as not needed in this blended religion. Sunday was also worshipped by both the groups not the believers. Passover was changed to Easter or o ester as the OT calls her the Queen of Heaven. It was chaged from the death of the messiah to a Queen of Heaven bringing in spring as this was a fertility festival to.. This is why we see Bunny Rabbits and egs today on Easter.

So much was done about the Cannon at that time. Those thier is History on who taught the 7th day Sabbath and Constantine put out a decree if you worshipped on the sabbath and was not a jew you were to be executed. It's good to be the Emperor.

All these suited the Emperor to control the masses. 1 religion 1 faith less conflict and he would be more informed on those who disobeyed him



So much was done about the Cannon at that time. Those thier is History on who taught the 7th day Sabbath and Constantine put out a decree if you worshipped on the sabbath and was not a jew you were to be executed. It's good to be the Emperor.


Why refer to irrelevant things? You will not find anything in the scriptures that suggest that should be done. That is merely a person's actions and doesn't reflect the actual belief in itself.


Mixing the religions and some giving and some getting. The jews were decided to seperate from them by showing the Torah as not needed in this blended religion.


Where is this evidence that it was "mixed"? And again, what blended religion? And did they say it was not neeeded? Because I do believe the first part of the bible is the tora eg., old testament lol.

And it's not that the tora wasn't needed, just that it was fulfilled, completed, finished through Jesus' crucifixion. And so yeah then making it irrelevant, obsolete.


The Sabbath is not relevent?

when John wrote this was he changing the sabbath?

Rev 12:17
17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
NKJV


Now what are the commandments of Yahweh? What is the Testimony?

This is very relevent. Constantine was the 1st Pope not Peter. Constantine changed the Sabbath you can not find it changed until him.

Anyone who keeps Sunday Sabbath is a Follower of the Popes church.

The mixing was christmas, easter and Sunday worship. All Pagan and Zorastorian worship. we got a savior they got the days of worship.

That is mixing religion do any search about christmas and it will show you.

The Torah was always spiritual and i guess Yahshua's sermon on the Mount about the law he was just joking.. He was explaining u need to learn through the physical to really understand the spiritual.. anyway why did Yahshua say this?

Matt 5:21-22

"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother,'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says,'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
NKJV

Matt 5:27-30

"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
NKJV


These laws are no good today?

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The bible is an accumulation of writings by many unidentified people describing events and conversations that they cannot be shown to have witnessed. Those writings were made decades or generations after the supposed events and the writers' sources of information are unknown. Three hundred years after Jesus died committees of churchmen under the direction of Roman emperors decided what was to be included in a "unifying document" (to reduce disagreements within the church) that became known as the bible. They selected material that suited the purposes of the emperors and themselves, rejecting documents having different viewpoints. The religion became the official religion of the Roman empire.

The Old Testament is taken directly from the Jewish Torah but is interpreted by Christians differently than by Jews. The New Testament was added and Jesus was introduced as the messiah promised by Judaism (but not accepted by Jews as such). Jesus was evidently a preacher (Jewish rabbi) who gained a following for a short time before being executed for sedition (rebelling against Roman rule and against Jewish Temple priests).

After Jesus died his followers created a splinter group religion (contrary to what Jesus is said to have wanted), claimed that he came back to life and then went away, and told stories about him performing "miracles" (that were not reported anywhere but in the religious writings – and cannot be shown to be true). It is claimed that the storied miracles and resurrection proved that Jesus was divine. Not everyone agrees.

Many regard the bible as the word of god – although it was written, edited, transcribed, and repeatedly revised by humans telling their opinions and stories about god. The thousands of Christian sects, denominations, cults, splinter groups do not agree about which version of the bible to use or about how it is to be interpreted (but all seem convinced they alone are right).

There is some good advice in the bible and some terrible advice, some useful rules for living and some rules that are irrational, some wisdom and some ignorance, some stories about love and compassion and many stories about killing and warfare (even genocide).





The bible is an accumulation of writings by many unidentified people describing events and conversations that they cannot be shown to have witnessed.


The bible's information, not necassarily Jesus being God or anything of such, but the incidents that happen in through the scriptures have many external sources backing that those things actually happened. For a simple example - Jesus' crucifixion. A man truly lived by the name of Jesus and was crucified for the things that the scriptures claim.

Nobody can find God by reading the bible, it's a good start to learn about God, but nevertheless you can't find him there in that exact context. Not like for example an atheist reads the scriptures and all of a sudden everything makes sense. Takes work, time, and desire to find.


They selected material that suited the purposes of the emperors and themselves, rejecting documents having different viewpoints. The religion became the official religion of the Roman empire


How do the scriptures suite the purposes of the emperors? It's not like the scriptures say obey the government without question or giving them any specific power over any specific person(s).


If you read about the Council of Nicea in 325ad you wiill see that after Constantines conversion he was sure Yahweh was on his side. He wanted this to be a state religion as many aspects between Roman soldiers who Practiced Zorastrism with thier Messiah Being Mithra who baptised in Blood. Then the pagan Sun worship.
Both Pagans and Zorastrism worship the beginning of life coming back again after the winter soltice. Mithra birthday was celebrated on the 25th of Dec the same day as the pagans under constantines control.

Mixing the religions and some giving and some getting. The jews were decided to seperate from them by showing the Torah as not needed in this blended religion. Sunday was also worshipped by both the groups not the believers. Passover was changed to Easter or o ester as the OT calls her the Queen of Heaven. It was chaged from the death of the messiah to a Queen of Heaven bringing in spring as this was a fertility festival to.. This is why we see Bunny Rabbits and egs today on Easter.

So much was done about the Cannon at that time. Those thier is History on who taught the 7th day Sabbath and Constantine put out a decree if you worshipped on the sabbath and was not a jew you were to be executed. It's good to be the Emperor.

All these suited the Emperor to control the masses. 1 religion 1 faith less conflict and he would be more informed on those who disobeyed him

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Tue 02/11/14 11:01 AM



Biblical laws are what our nation is built upon.


Much of what this nation was built on was from Native Americans. The idea of democracy was far more evident in their societies than in European nations of that era.


You have absolutely got to be saying that to get a rise. Nobody who has ever studied history or even had a thought in their head could possibly think that.


Try "Lies my Teacher Told Me" by James W. Lowen and "The Significance of the Frontier in American History" by Frederick Jackson Turner for viewpoints that differ from the homogenized / Europeanized views presented in standard / politically correct textbooks.

Lowen does an outstanding job of presenting a realistic view of American history (that is nothing like what we were taught -- and is well documented).


I will agree with you about our history books. Thankgiving was a trick. they gave them blankets to go back to thier tribes that had the small pox virus in them. I would like to go someday and Protest with the Indians at Plymouth Rock at thankgiving each year. never see the news cover that story

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Tue 02/11/14 09:30 AM

I give you different knowledge from different places


Quotations from different pages in the same book do not constitute "knowledge from different places" or even knowledge. Biblical writings cited are unverifiable OPINION written by people whose identity is not known to scholars and theologians -- and who wrote decades or generations after the events that they cannot be shown to have witnessed.

Can you refute, with verifiable information, anything I have said?

Note the term "verifiable" -- meaning "To confirm the accuracy or truth of something." That a book makes a claim in different places is NOT verification.

and i already know what your reply will be.


If someone claims to KNOW in advance what I will reply, they must be supernatural (or think they are).


Is life is in the blood and do not eat it Opinion?

Is do not eat the fat Opinion?

Is the world a circle and we are in a tent opinion?

Is sex with only your wife opinion? in todays age it is but u do not have to worry about std's if u only have 1 partner in your life. Geese are better than us on this.

these are facts science has just caught up to. we are not to mix seeds. yet Monsanto is playing the mad scientists with our food supply and science is trying to figure out what to do.

Biblical laws are what our nation is built upon. we have just taken them way to far. you will always see it as opinion and thats fine. I prefer to use the Bible as My guide on how to live my life.




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Mon 02/10/14 03:16 PM

Hold up didnt eve have two boys so when so when one of them died one of them got married. Where did the women come from?


Gen 4:16-18

Then Cain went out from the presence of the LORD and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son — Enoch. 18 To Enoch was born Irad; and Irad begot Mehujael, and Mehujael begot Methushael, and Methushael begot Lamech.
NKJV

Here we see Cain sent off. So where did he get his wife from?

an interesting thing about his child Enoch is that it says Yahweh walked with Enoch.WE also see Enoch has kids. Seems to me thier were other people put on the earth. The difference being Yahweh Breathed into Adam and he came alive. The Breath of life. I do not see the scriptures saying thier were no people on the earth.


Gen 1:1-2

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters
NKJV

created

bara'



OT:1254 bara' (baw-raw'); a primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): -choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Create does not have to mean the start of from nothing since the earth was void. If the earth was made then why even mention what the earth is like? it had to had something happen.IMO

Yahweh does in Duet. speak about questions they seemed to have back then also.

Deut 4:32-36

32 For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it?

33 Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?

34 Or hath God assayed to go and take him a nation from the midst of another nation, by temptations, by signs, and by wonders, and by war, and by a mighty hand, and by a stretched out arm, and by great terrors, according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes?

35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

36 Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire.
KJV

I do not believe thier was incest. I do not believe the earth is only 6000 years old. Enoch to me is a problem.. maye thats why his book is not in the cannon. But Enoch found a wife from somewhere also.

The Annanaki writings of talk of an unsiphisticated people who's were on the earth. Could these be where the wives came from?

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Sat 02/08/14 03:11 PM

The Bible is spiritual.


Agreed.

The bible is also myth, legend, folktale, testimonial, parable, fiction, fantasy.

Some individual items MAY have basis in fact, but the literally true can seldom be separated from the fictional / imaginary.

The same can be said of other religious texts and traditions. There is nothing unique or sacred about the bible. It is the work of fallible humans serving their own agenda and that of Roman emperors.


Why can't you ever come up with a different answer. It's like a song put on repeat.

I give you different knowledge from different places and i already know what your reply will be. over and over and over

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Thu 02/06/14 09:35 AM


I have always loved this short verse. Yahshua writes on the ground as if he does not hear them. I believe he could care less what they wanted because the Man was not thier so no judgement could be made.. Where's The Man"

"Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?" 6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear

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Tue 02/04/14 09:04 PM

Know one knows it all.. Don't we here open your mind to new Possibilities. Wow Look in the Bible its endless with possibilities on the lifestyle you choose.


Many are Non Religious BECAUSE they have read the bible and competing religious texts and concluded that tales about talking donkeys and snakes, dead bodies coming back to life days after death, gods flying through the air unaided, etc are FOLK TALES, legends, fables.

Thousands of years ago people did not distinguish between fantasy and reality – and many in modern times believe tales from that era are literal truth.

Yes, there is SOME wisdom in the bible just as there is SOME wisdom in millions of other books – even those written by people we consider evil monsters. So what? There is some truth in the lies of politicians. So what?

Shall we accept entire works as truthful and accurate if we can find an occasional truth?



but its not occasional. it is never ending made for all time. The Bible is spiritual. Learning the Physical in the Bible what to do brings you to understanding the spiritual meaning. Just like a job if you care to learn it well. its much more than the book said. the doing the work is what brings out what the job really is. If not what good is experience? The on hands approach.

we are told all over the place no matter what instance in time how to live among the masses peacefully.

The example of judging of the woman in adultery. They came to Yahshua because they wanted to trick him so adament they were going to find wrong in him they brought an adulterous woman before him and surely he would have to condemn her to death the law says so.

What did he do and why?

John 8:2-11

2 Now early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them. 3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, 4 they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?" 6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.

7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, "Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?"

11 She said, "No one, Lord."

And Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more."
NKJV


Why didn't he condemn her? This is good for us today because all he was doing was showing how they were showing partiality in the law.

The law they were referring to says both the man and the woman was to be stoned. Where was the man? Think maybe he wrote on the ground "WHERE'S THE MAN" so in their partiality this is a sin. They wanted the woman judged but not the man. we see the same today and can learn from this but the bible is Bad, its evil, unjust, a fairy tale.

Yet it's laws are spiritual and can be applied to every generation their ever has been. wonders who's elses laws we can say that about?

This is good knowledge to have to live by because the word is a LIFESTLE and it should be in the school being taught as a alternative Lifestyle also. But its not so their is an un fair law.

Everything that has come down through generations is being put to the test. I love it. It means Yahweh will send his son before long.

se prophesy is way more than most has ever heard. Yahshua's every word was Prophesy because it is true. Why because it is simple wisdom how to live a long and peaceful life.

We have all these rights but the bible is shut down. speak out against sin which is everywhere. so we take the Bible out of our schools. How many school shootings did we have before Roe vs wade? can we think of any?

Why is that something Yahweh says is evil and if u do evil then evil will come to you. We see it all the time now because morals are of no use.


That's the message of the scriptures simple morals to teach our children but they here this their and something else over their and see people getting even so they go shoot'em up and nobody knows why. The bible tells us why but u know who wants to listen and who is teaching their children things society does is called Evil by the bible by Yahweh. want peace bring the bible back into the schools and in a generation we will be a great nation again. If not the scriptures calls us the Great Whore that came out of the see the horn that rose up and Became America.

Prophesy says this whore you will know her because 1 because of her sins.

2 that she is a great trader. when she falls the world will wail because of the delicasies she has given them. Huh have we made the world rich?

3 it also tells us another sign of this little horn from this great whore the daughter of England the Whore.

they will say throughout the world.
Rev 13:4
4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying,"Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"
NKJV

a dragon and a Beast. and also great trading partners. china and the USA. The whore is the beast but who gives us life?

17 trillion in debt what if china said we want our money? no they will not do that for several reasons. Trade and military might we have, tell me who could make war with us?

we live in a Sodom and Gomorrah. not only a gay lifestyle but even worse we do not care about nothing but the rich. a wealth dispersion like none ever seen. bailing out banks and then the banks give millions of dollars to their exe's and well its ok .

See they were destroyed for their un hospitality also they were in chaos. Does the great nation seem like its in chaos?

Yes and it will get way worse. love will leave people and we have just begun to see an America that class warfare will get much deeper and the ones who caused it we are told are the only ones who can fix it. How continue to give to the rich and allow them to take advantage of the poor.

Great line they use work for min. wage or u r lazy? maybe but when billionaires who need no more just invest and their pay check each week is more than all their employees something is wrong. This is not the American Dream this is little Kingdoms power for men. all over just look around. we accept this like we have accepted the other things the haters of the scriptures have put over on us and we do not see. its gradual. when we started killing babies and look up a chart about the American income and what it can buy through the years when did it start to fall?

Just like was forcast. a Good weather forcast




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Tue 02/04/14 05:23 AM
I know you don't believe and My way which I try to do Yahshua's way Because He is The Way. That's the 1st believers called themselves. Only pagans called them Christians but that stook.

So in my fairy tale land I will show my Alice in Wonderland you stand by us. The way of tradition is the way of destruction.

Guess what. Tradition Rules. Then the scriptures even mention a small prophecy about a time that we are in. just read it closely'

2 Peter 2:12-16

But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. 15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet.
NKJV


Amazing equates to day to the only thing the world would listen to would be a talking donkey.. then you would maybe believe you might want him over for dinner and see what a donkey eats.

The Word is the Bread of life.

Matt 4:4

4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
NKJV


I definitely believe u have to believe in something to actually believe it. That's what u r saying I believe show me physical proof so then maybe u believe.

always doubt. So many people on here trashing the Holy Scriptures with same ole same ole stuff. he's a murder and every evil thing u can think of. I mean is it fun? to everyone who does this. That Prophecy u should look hard at what the Bible calls evil.. I am not judging u just showing you my belief ,my life my world. Hope that does not offend you that I try to live in the world but try not to be of this world.

2 Peter 2:13-15
They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.
NKJV


Know one knows it all.. Don't we here open your mind to new Possibilities. Wow Look in the Bible its endless with possibilities on the lifestyle you choose.

When running down calling them fairy tales and I mean all of you that do this. u very well maybe enticing young souls away from faith. and its Pre-meditated.

The wording even in these few verses is very strong and has never been like it is now.

We are a country of accursed children because of the decision of Row vs wade.

Since that time the morals of this country has changed when a society decides does not consider a beating heart a life their for it can be killed . a demoralization started. The bible did not want to be believe. Why?

It tells you what sin really is and it convicts you. so do away with it. run it down. 10 commandments in school.. oh sp bad.. teach homosexuality in HS as an alternative lifestyle .. well I see whay they had to get rid of the 10 commandments now. Prophesy. Nothing but prophesy.

Yea I know u will not even look at those scriptures but to you wo believe these are people that u can see are prophecy see what they have to say.. like the old adages says.. keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. I say welcome their challenges. They will prepare you.. great way to learn in the real world what non believers say. Knowledge they are helping the believer if you will accept them as a learning too to build your faith.. Always have Faith it will keep you in line cause the bible tells me so,, Just love those words.

Sodom and Gomorrah was way more than Gays and sodomites. If we go back when Lot seen the angels we see a very important way of life.

Gen 19:1-2

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom . When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, "Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant's house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way."
NKJV

Servitude. he ran to them to wash their feet ( NT Foot washing)

Hospitality. These people partied and did homosexual acts. these men wanted the angel whp apparently they did not know they were angel and does not say lot did. else where we r told in the NT that to treat a stranger as a guest because you main be entertaing and Angel. They look just like us.. Just like in lots day.

People say Lot was horrible when he offered up his daughters. was he?

Lot and his family lived their. notice they did not want the daughters . never in history has their been a time like now. u can believe what u want and what u say I learn from. so keep up the good work .. shalom











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Sun 02/02/14 06:08 AM


Do you consider abortions Murder?


Red Herring?


Of course it is -- but those who use that as a "debate" tactic often don't even know the meaning of "red herring" much less how to discuss a topic rationally.


I ask a question and u claim I am changing the subject. Genocide is murder or is it? killing is killing or is it? good luck.. u neither listen and better yet u try and act like u r when u do not want a real debate. u just wanna say make believe make believe.. u r right religion is wrong. what religious holidays do u keep for fun? well then u r practicing a religion then aren't you. see that makes u a liar when u practice religious holidays no matter what u want to call them if the mainstream keep them and u do also then all u r is a lieing follower. what else would u call it? Have fun in your fanticy world/

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If you doubt that supernaturals dont exist,come to Africa and one old man in the village would turn you to reptile in seconds.I'm saying what i've seen happen many times.There are powers that make things to happen,including convincing some people to doubt the existence of God,heaven,hell,etc.Doubt no more!


You have seen men turned to snakes multiple times? Could you go into that a little farther?


Long ago and far away, shrouded in ignorance and superstition, all sorts of magical things are claimed to have happened -- some by "good" spirits and some by "evil" ones. Some are claimed to change humans into snakes and others are claimed to turn water into wine.

What the tales have in common is complete lack of verification. Anyone can claim anything but cannot show that they speak truth. Testimonials, hearsay, legends, fables and folk tales "prove" only that lips or pens are moving and that someone promotes an agenda.



so u do not believe in evil either?

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it is for sure u do not understand what was happening why he said to kill all of them.


Is me who does not understand about the homicidal / genocidal "god" in bible stories?

Isn't there a tale about "him" killing every person and every living thing on Earth (save some on a cruise) because the people were "wicked" (didn't worship him and follow his orders)?

In fact, there are a lot of tales about a bloodthirsty "god" in the bible. Apologists attempt to explain or excuse genocide (and have often followed the example themselves).




Do you consider abortions Murder?


What does that question have to do with a genocidal "god?"

Changing the subject to avoid acknowledging dastardly deeds attributed to "god" in bible stories?


It has everything to do with it. u say this horrible elohim is genocidal.

Abortion is Genocidal. Just because our govt . says it is ok does not mean it is not murder. you want to speak of genocide then abortion is the Killing of defenseless babies.

It is murder. when a car accident happens and a mother looses her baby its murder but if she does it its ok. that's hogwash it either is or is not. that's the world u live in a fantasy one where you make rules then change them whatever fits most peoples fantasies

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Fri 01/31/14 10:29 PM



Do u believe their has never been a miracle ever?


"Miracle" can be defined different ways (Merriam Webster Dictionary):

1) an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs

2) an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment

I accept number two but prefer to use the term "unusual" rather than "miracle" to avoid implying that supernatural spirits or gods were involved.

When something unusual happens in apparent conflict with nature and its cause cannot be determined, I do not hesitate to say "I don't know" rather than make up or accept a supernatural "explanation" that cannot be shown to be truthful and accurate.

Many people use the term "miracle" to mean "anything I do not understand" -- such as when a person recovers from a terrible injury or illness (or when they pass a college course they were thought to be failing).

I have not encountered evidence of "divine intervention" -- only numerous unverifiable tales and testimonials claiming to KNOW that "gods" were involved.


seeing u will disagree with any possibility that the scriptures could be true.


Some bible tales COULD be true, some could be partially true, some could be completely untrue. Which ones can be shown to be true?

What is your purpose on a religion forumn when u do not believe at all?


It is a public forum that is not limited to supernaturalists. I often choose to question public statements that claim KNOWLEDGE of supernatural events or entities.

Trying to convert us?


It is of no concern to me what anyone believes or which of the thousands of proposed "gods" they choose to worship or idolize.

Responses by religionists may well have the effect of DE-converting others. The more irrational and emotional the posts the more likely they are to have negative effect on readers.

Religious promotion, propaganda, advertising, proselytizing deserves a response.






good luck