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Recovery from religion...
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There's no compassion in that either, the Biblical God is NOT AT ALL compassionate. The very idea that a loving God would need the blood of an innocent being to love people again after what other people did, is absurd! Love does not require death to be, period. Then on top of that, even after saying it's for all, if you do one thing wrong, you still die! Again NOT love. 1st Bold - Is ludicrous. God never demands "blood" nor "sacrifices" of the human nature. 2nd Bold - Again, not true. ********, and more ********. You don't know the Bible either! There are LOADS of references to God killing and calling for killing in the Bible, demanding animal and human sacrifices, and the entire story of Jesus is based on the idea that there needed to be a sacrifice for sin. Secondly, if Jesus's sacrifice was for all sin, everyone should be saved, but yet everyone still isn't. Was it for all or not? Oh? Where did God ever once say, "I demand sacrifice of...."? Everyone while in the flesh, saved. Spirit, however, is not. We are not judged during life, only death. Right back at cha. :P "You clearly have not a damn clue what you're talking about, it's almost embarrassing." |
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Recovery from religion...
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There's no compassion in that either, the Biblical God is NOT AT ALL compassionate. The very idea that a loving God would need the blood of an innocent being to love people again after what other people did, is absurd! Love does not require death to be, period. Then on top of that, even after saying it's for all, if you do one thing wrong, you still die! Again NOT love. 1st Bold - Is ludicrous. God never demands "blood" nor "sacrifices" of the human nature. 2nd Bold - Again, not true. About the 2nd bold, exactly as sin_and_sorrow said. That is exactly why Jesus offers FORGIVENSS. So that alone makes your statement of doing one thing wrong, you will die. Again if it's for ALL sin, everyone should already be saved, but if we're all not, than Jesus's sacrifice failed. Forgiven in the flesh. Not in spirit. Had he "failed". Great Flood Part V would soon be upon us. |
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Recovery from religion...
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Kleisto....the Bible teaches that God KNOWS All Things. THAT is actually what the bible teaches, and NOT presdestination. Did you READ the scriptures I posted? They CLEARLY refer to God drawing us to Him, not us doing anything at all. If God chooses not to call a person, how can we choose it? We can't! Here's yet ANOTHER example of it: ""For those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined, He also called; and those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified" (Rom. 8:29-30 HCSB). " You need to read your Bible more. ..again, this verse is out of context. Sounds like you need to read it more thoroughly Kleisto. |
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Recovery from religion...
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There's no compassion in that either, the Biblical God is NOT AT ALL compassionate. The very idea that a loving God would need the blood of an innocent being to love people again after what other people did, is absurd! Love does not require death to be, period. Then on top of that, even after saying it's for all, if you do one thing wrong, you still die! Again NOT love. 1st Bold - Is ludicrous. God never demands "blood" nor "sacrifices" of the human nature. 2nd Bold - Again, not true. |
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Recovery from religion...
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You don't know the Bible yourself either then, because it disagrees with you. Possibly, lol. Oh and even if it were true, you'd still be wrong. If God knows everything already and there's no wiggle room to change things, then we are in effect playing out a script, and not choosing anything at all. Predestined, God's Plan. The way I see it, God does know everything, but we also have the option to make choices along the way as well. It's not set in stone. Free-will, which is what Song was saying...(or usually is anyway) So, I'm confused. |
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Recovery from religion...
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How about in your damn Bible? “All that the Father gives to Me will come to Me”--------------------------------------- John 6:37 “of all He has given to Me I should lose nothing” --------------------------------------- John 6:39 “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him” --------------- John 6:44 “Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.” John 6:45 “no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father”--------- John 6:65 “My sheep hear My voice … My Father, who has given them to Me” ---------------- John 10:29 “eternal life to as many as You have given to Him” ------------------------------------ John 17:2 “those whom You have given (to) Me” ---------------------------------------------------- John 17:9 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave (to) Me …” -------------------------- John 17:24 “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted” ------- Matthew 15:13 Right there in black and white! Each of these speak, when in proper context; that those who accept Jesus, etc, etc, etc; are those "destined" as you put it, to gain access to Heaven. However, those/these are but only a few of the ways. ..and a lot of these are just parables anyway. ..just saying.. |
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Recovery from religion...
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Oh right, because I CLEARLY support Mass Murder. Right.........that makes a ton of sense. NOT ..that reply made no sense.. Cause tis not at all what I said. I merely pointed out. Those not "forced" or "raised" with "any" type of true, and defined morals don't always grow up all "sweet and innocent". That's all. Don't blame the student, blame the teacher. Guess that's my point. |
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*is loving Jen even more right now*
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Recovery from religion...
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It becomes more about you and what you want for them than what they might want. just regarding PARENTHOOD IT is not SUPPOSED to be as simple as what they 'want' their relative inexperience and lack of knowledge makes them a poor judge of how to achieve what they 'want' , parenthood is about leading your children in a healthy path, regardless of what their juvenile minds may impulsively think they 'want' sometimes they will want healthy things and sometimes they wont, as a parent, its my job to guide my kids in the healthy direction and steer them away from the unhealthy and potentially detrimental choices their impulsive flesh may lead them towards,,, Yes, guiding them is one thing, teaching them to respect themselves and respect others, that is one thing. But that's where it should end. Outright trying to tell them not to do certain things even if said things are their passions and makes them happy is just you pushing your morals onto them, and that is wrong. Unless it is clear they need help, and need guidance, and no basing your own prejudices on right and wrong does not apply in this, as a parent you should let the person be who they are. Some of the most monstrous people of the past, were raised in the environment you deem "right". Like your Hitler's and most serial killers, examples. ..just saying. |
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"Boy and Girl"
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Well i think we reached that and went a bit beyond lol... I'd have it no other way, my love. |
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*covers you in kisses*...holding you close to me, im never letting go eva lol Best not! *clings* |
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Who's nicole Nicole is Jack's Goddess. Jennifer is my Goddess. YES all yours baby...just like your my DOUGLASS *curls up in her lap* You know it lovah! |
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"Boy and Girl"
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Love is crazy. :)
True love is insanity. :D |
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Edited by
Sin_and_Sorrow
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Sat 03/24/12 05:25 PM
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^^HER^^^FER-FER^^^MUFFIN^^^JEN^^^^WIFE^^^^^MY HEART^^^^MY LOVE^^^^
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Topic:
"Boy and Girl"
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Good.
I'm glad. I love you mostier. |
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Topic:
"Boy and Girl"
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Eh, thank you? o.O
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My Fer-Fer.
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Who's nicole Nicole is Jack's Goddess. Jennifer is my Goddess. |
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HOLY GHOST /HOLY SPIRIT.... THE SAME So, there are four of them, eh? Cause, uh, a ghost and a spirit ain't the same... ..people can't get enough of me. :D Even talk about me while I'm gone. So loved. <3 |
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Topic:
Recovery from religion...
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so sad that this thread got so completely off-topic!!! It's completely on-topic: "It makes sense that this could be helpful for many people as religion has been allowed to run rampant and has been deceptively taught as the only answer to morality, problem solving, recovery, grieving, etc... And in truth it only makes a person sicker in the end. Makes their lives more empty. " You are doing what the OP did. You're associating "sick" actions with religion without knowing how everyone was taught, what they were taught, the quality of their existense and their mental capacity. i am not perfect. anyone who would disdain a topic such as this does not have to participate. Disdain is the reason I participate... I think moral elitism is a sickness. One which breeds the likes of an Adolf Hitler. Oh? That why he was converting Germans to Islams? -.- Interesting... |
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