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Wed 10/19/11 07:26 PM

laugh laugh laugh

as for you young man...I'll be expecting you to partake and not just sit on the sidelines.winking

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Wed 10/19/11 07:22 PM



yep then they get skeered

Try annoyed. Look I understand you are missing me but while you two are over here playing with each other, or with yourselves while you look at pictures of girls younger than your daughters, who incidently needs more meat on her bones.....I've been trying to have a more philosophical conversation in my other thread...but I have just about wrapped it up over there...I said I would be back and I will, have no doubt...then we will see who can handle the heat.devil :tongue: :wink:


flowerforyou smooched Welcome back Kelp. smooched flowerforyou

Looking forward to your starting up the thread again.:thumbsup:

I bet you are..shades

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Wed 10/19/11 06:38 PM
oh boy...today I said to someone......I will have to remove the top 1.5 feet and 18 inches..just quoting some written instructions and as I as trying to add that up in my head I noticed the person I was talking to had that huh? look...then I realized it said 1.5 feet OR 18 inches....well there's one for Beachfarmer's thread I said to myself..laugh

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Tue 10/18/11 10:35 PM
502

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Tue 10/18/11 09:47 PM

gladly.
just stand back.
haha.

and let the expert do her thang?! lol

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Tue 10/18/11 09:44 PM

yep then they get skeered

Try annoyed. Look I understand you are missing me but while you two are over here playing with each other, or with yourselves while you look at pictures of girls younger than your daughters, who incidently needs more meat on her bones.....I've been trying to have a more philosophical conversation in my other thread...but I have just about wrapped it up over there...I said I would be back and I will, have no doubt...then we will see who can handle the heat.devil :tongue: :wink:

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Tue 10/18/11 09:24 PM

No problem Kelp. I retain my manly pride in the knowledge that I can pee my name in the snow.

laugh You ARE a manly man!!

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Tue 10/18/11 09:21 PM

I dont think it was easier for women to evolve, no.

I think that society was all too eager to embrace women doing it 'all', both at home and outside the home, but being a superwoman has not been easy.

Likewise, I think society even embraces men who do it 'all', both at home and outside the home, but being a superman is not easy either, I imagine.

When we speak strictly of 'trading' positions....I think that taking care of the home is often a harder and more thankless job than working outside the home, so its probably easier for a woman to trade the domestic job with the 'paid' job.

On the contrary, its probably hard for a man to transition from a job where his work is aknowledged and 'appreciated' with monetary reward, to the much less lucrative, thankful and often more tiring job as a 'domestic'


Thank you Ms Harmony, well stated.

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Tue 10/18/11 09:07 PM

Men had to adapt and women had to adjust I think. I think adapting and adjusting can seem alike.

Hi Rainbowtrout..I'm still thinking about this...think I am going to actually look the words up to check my understanding of them and to see if I can better understand your point..I will get back with you.

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Tue 10/18/11 08:56 PM




It has always been a theory of mine, based on observation, that while women have grown in leaps and bounds over the last 50 years or so; grown, evolved out of the constraints of traditional women's roles, men have had a more difficult time adjusting.

Makes sense to me to conclude that the more 'bread winner' type roles woman have been taking on were an easier, more natural feeling advancement, then say the more 'domestic' roles men have then had to take on in order for the family unit to thrive fully...in order for there to be the all important balance.

I have also observed that with the younger generation that balance may be returning. Not because women have gone back to those roles...as really we never left them but because men are finding these roles to be as natural and empowering as a heavy duty power tool.

Do you agree? As a whole, are/were the traditional masculine roles easier for women to advance into then it has been for men to evolve into the traditionally feminine roles? Do you notice the difference in the younger generation?


the traditional roles of females do not pay as well - therein lies the resistance

also the reason for women to stay single often - it would be a tough negotiation to get me to go BACK to a time of picking up Etc after a grown man....or assuming the domestic duties when he is equally living in the same dwelling place...make ur own sammiches dang it all!

I would seriously prefer to live alone than have to ever ask a man to clean up after himslef EVER again, and I mean that


[DISCLAIMER] laugh Again, not wanting to get into man bashing..cause that is not what I am about, it's important to me to let go of the bitterness...however...I hear ya sister! :thumbsup:


Damn, I just finished saying there was no man bashing in this thread. Well, thanks girls for making me look like a fool. laugh


laugh Well, this probably didn't quite qualify as man bashing...but it surely will be taken that way by someone.

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Tue 10/18/11 08:47 PM




It has always been a theory of mine, based on observation, that while women have grown in leaps and bounds over the last 50 years or so; grown, evolved out of the constraints of traditional women's roles, men have had a more difficult time adjusting.

Makes sense to me to conclude that the more 'bread winner' type roles woman have been taking on were an easier, more natural feeling advancement, then say the more 'domestic' roles men have then had to take on in order for the family unit to thrive fully...in order for there to be the all important balance.

I have also observed that with the younger generation that balance may be returning. Not because women have gone back to those roles...as really we never left them but because men are finding these roles to be as natural and empowering as a heavy duty power tool.

Do you agree? As a whole, are/were the traditional masculine roles easier for women to advance into then it has been for men to evolve into the traditionally feminine roles? Do you notice the difference in the younger generation?


Ultimately subjects like this degrade into "Why are men intimidated by independent women"? Well ,we're not! What is annoying is that radical feminists appeal to equal rights until equal rights doesn't benefit them. They, then, expect men to "SUBMIT" to the philosophy of Chivalry. They play the game so they are always benefited.

Fortunately not all women subscribe to this HOWEVER enough do that men are pushing back. Some men (usually younger) have stopped opening doors, letting the lady go first, etc. and women complain that Chivalry is dead. In your effort for equality you've (possibly unknowingly) been emasculating men nationwide. Ladies, you have yourself to thank.

Women: I don't need a man for anything! Not only comes across as an insult (and in some cases untrue) but some men take this as a license to use women only for sex:

"They don't need us for anything else, why not"?

Men Adjusting: the younger generation has adjusted much to women's dislike. If women want to be treated with respect I suggest you start by treating men with a bit of respect. It does go both ways.

shocked wow....emasculating? I think maybe you listen to too much talk radio,my friend. Of course now, re-reading some of what I wrote, while trying to leave room for discussion.. I can see I could have worded a few things differently here and there but, I tried hard to word my post in such a way that it was clear I, in no way, was intending to put men down...or down play their importance in our lives. I even followed-up with a post stating that my inention was the exact opposite. Did you even bother to read thru the whole thread, or at least skim it to see what the comments were like. Up until your comment it had not in any way degraded to this level. It appears you thought that was the direction it was inevitably heading so therefore let's just take it there...I think you were wrong. I could very well be wrong Idianadave but I think you might be a prime example of the generation/sector of men who have felt a bit at a loss...can't quite figure out a way to navigate these waters, but instead of admitting that, trying new things..asking what's my role here?...you respond with bitterness. That's my take on on it anyway...I could be wrong of course.


I wouldn't worry about what Idianadave wrote as this seems to be the same rant I have seen him do on a few threads. Nothing anyone said here was putting men down; it was just a nice dicsussion until he came here ranting. So, I wouldn't pay much attention to what he says and personally; I thought this was a a great thread and haven't seen anything nasty written here except for what Dave wrote. Its all good. flowerforyou

thanks Navygirl. yeah, he kinda had the same thing to say on my...'the minute you say you need me...' thread..that is why I decided to let him have it a bit this time.:wink:

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Tue 10/18/11 08:43 PM


It has always been a theory of mine, based on observation, that while women have grown in leaps and bounds over the last 50 years or so; grown, evolved out of the constraints of traditional women's roles, men have had a more difficult time adjusting.

Makes sense to me to conclude that the more 'bread winner' type roles woman have been taking on were an easier, more natural feeling advancement, then say the more 'domestic' roles men have then had to take on in order for the family unit to thrive fully...in order for there to be the all important balance.

I have also observed that with the younger generation that balance may be returning. Not because women have gone back to those roles...as really we never left them but because men are finding these roles to be as natural and empowering as a heavy duty power tool.

Do you agree? As a whole, are/were the traditional masculine roles easier for women to advance into then it has been for men to evolve into the traditionally feminine roles? Do you notice the difference in the younger generation?


the traditional roles of females do not pay as well - therein lies the resistance

also the reason for women to stay single often - it would be a tough negotiation to get me to go BACK to a time of picking up Etc after a grown man....or assuming the domestic duties when he is equally living in the same dwelling place...make ur own sammiches dang it all!

I would seriously prefer to live alone than have to ever ask a man to clean up after himslef EVER again, and I mean that

[DISCLAIMER] laugh Again, not wanting to get into man bashing..cause that is not what I am about, it's important to me to let go of the bitterness...however...I hear ya sister! :thumbsup:

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Tue 10/18/11 07:32 PM
Edited by kelp1961 on Tue 10/18/11 07:59 PM


I normally poke myself in the eye
with the mascara rushohwell laugh laugh flowers waving waving

Kimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy!!!!
Ya, me too :-)

and this is exactly why I do not wear makeup..I am just not coordinated enough.

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Tue 10/18/11 07:28 PM

i enjoy organizing messes.

:banana: Really? Wanna come over?laugh

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Tue 10/18/11 07:22 PM


It has always been a theory of mine, based on observation, that while women have grown in leaps and bounds over the last 50 years or so; grown, evolved out of the constraints of traditional women's roles, men have had a more difficult time adjusting.

Makes sense to me to conclude that the more 'bread winner' type roles woman have been taking on were an easier, more natural feeling advancement, then say the more 'domestic' roles men have then had to take on in order for the family unit to thrive fully...in order for there to be the all important balance.

I have also observed that with the younger generation that balance may be returning. Not because women have gone back to those roles...as really we never left them but because men are finding these roles to be as natural and empowering as a heavy duty power tool.

Do you agree? As a whole, are/were the traditional masculine roles easier for women to advance into then it has been for men to evolve into the traditionally feminine roles? Do you notice the difference in the younger generation?


Ultimately subjects like this degrade into "Why are men intimidated by independent women"? Well ,we're not! What is annoying is that radical feminists appeal to equal rights until equal rights doesn't benefit them. They, then, expect men to "SUBMIT" to the philosophy of Chivalry. They play the game so they are always benefited.

Fortunately not all women subscribe to this HOWEVER enough do that men are pushing back. Some men (usually younger) have stopped opening doors, letting the lady go first, etc. and women complain that Chivalry is dead. In your effort for equality you've (possibly unknowingly) been emasculating men nationwide. Ladies, you have yourself to thank.

Women: I don't need a man for anything! Not only comes across as an insult (and in some cases untrue) but some men take this as a license to use women only for sex:

"They don't need us for anything else, why not"?

Men Adjusting: the younger generation has adjusted much to women's dislike. If women want to be treated with respect I suggest you start by treating men with a bit of respect. It does go both ways.

shocked wow....emasculating? I think maybe you listen to too much talk radio,my friend. Of course now, re-reading some of what I wrote, while trying to leave room for discussion.. I can see I could have worded a few things differently here and there but, I tried hard to word my post in such a way that it was clear I, in no way, was intending to put men down...or down play their importance in our lives. I even followed-up with a post stating that my inention was the exact opposite. Did you even bother to read thru the whole thread, or at least skim it to see what the comments were like. Up until your comment it had not in any way degraded to this level. It appears you thought that was the direction it was inevitably heading so therefore let's just take it there...I think you were wrong. I could very well be wrong Idianadave but I think you might be a prime example of the generation/sector of men who have felt a bit at a loss...can't quite figure out a way to navigate these waters, but instead of admitting that, trying new things..asking what's my role here?...you respond with bitterness. That's my take on on it anyway...I could be wrong of course.

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Mon 10/17/11 11:45 PM

There is a problem that slowly started to come to light after women "evolved" however. Over the past 50 years women have become more empowered but that has also changed the family dynamic. There are a lot more "broken" homes now and single parent homes than there were in the past because of this.

Children from single parent homes tend to miss out on experience, guidance, and teachings from whichever parent is out of the picture. I have quite a few friends who grew up with only one parent and it's interesting to see how their lives turned out including their outlook on life.

Now of course I'm not saying women shouldn't have socially evolved, but that families aren't like they were in the good old days. In this day and age, yes it's more common now for there to be only one parent, and that parent can probably raise their child just fine. But families now are at a disadvantage I think compared to families from the 40's or 50's for example.

Thank you Aries. I would like to comment more to this but I am tired tonight and will try to fully respond tomorrow. Tonight however, I will just ask, surely you understand like any major issue, such as a dramatic increase in 'broken homes', there are so very many variables it is near impossible to place the weight of the problem on any one contributing factor...and then it is equally difficult to ascertain if that contributing factor is the cause or the effect of another contributing factor....kinda like our current economic state of affairs.

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Mon 10/17/11 08:28 PM


It has always been a theory of mine, based on observation, that while women have grown in leaps and bounds over the last 50 years or so; grown, evolved out of the constraints of traditional women's roles, men have had a more difficult time adjusting.

Makes sense to me to conclude that the more 'bread winner' type roles woman have been taking on were an easier, more natural feeling advancement, then say the more 'domestic' roles men have then had to take on in order for the family unit to thrive fully...in order for there to be the all important balance.

I have also observed that with the younger generation that balance may be returning. Not because women have gone back to those roles...as really we never left them but because men are finding these roles to be as natural and empowering as a heavy duty power tool.

Do you agree? As a whole, are/were the traditional masculine roles easier for women to advance into then it has been for men to evolve into the traditionally feminine roles? Do you notice the difference in the younger generation?


This is great. Too bad I must go to work now or would comment more. In the meantime may I offer you an hors d'oeuvres from the kitchen AND a slab form the "Q"? Will cook, clean, cry.....butt kick AZZ when necessary! <3

yep..you can offer...but be careful i just might accept. :wink:

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Mon 10/17/11 08:24 PM




I think the younger generation is more open and accepting of people who dont fit the traditional roles.


Absolutely; and I for one am thrilled to see the younger generation with an open mind. Myself; I took on what was considered a man's role in the military but didn't do it to compete or do a man's job; I simply just wanted to do it. I always thought it was silly to define a male or female role as we all should be treated as equal. Who cares if a woman is a bread winner or the man is a house husband. I think as long as we are happy; why should society dictate what our roles as men and women should be.

I agree 100% Navygirl....the role is what is important not who plays it..thanks to the pioneers such as yourself and many other military women I know and the doors and minds you have opened have made it easier for the younger generation..although, I have to say... I was not sure how I felt about women combat solders...only in that now not only are our sons, fathers, uncles, grandfathers etc..being killed, maimed or traumatized by war...now so are our daughters, mothers, aunts, grandmothers etc...and I just can't see that as a good thing..but I do get and understand that it was a natural, inevitable and necessary advancement.


Thanks for the kind words. Incidentially; I did serve on a combat ship. As for women serving in combat; I don't think a woman's death is any worse than the death of a man as we should all be thought of equally.

I absolutely agree...was not implying a higher value one way or the other..it's just that the holes/voids left behind...are now in both sectors of society/both genders groups....in that sense it is not an advancement for our society...idk...just expressing a thought...not really even a full thought out opinion...

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Sun 10/16/11 11:09 PM

hey guys, dont be a poon. Is this like finish my sentence? Cuz i dunno if we have to finish the sentence or make a new story

it's what happens next? add a little snippet or a whole act..whatever moves ya...currently, aparently, thank you Ash, we are at a graveyard. ..and try to get a at least a little silly romance novel kinda stuff in there...have fun.

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Sun 10/16/11 09:45 PM


No kidding- I was thinking the same thing kelp 1961!

No offense rara777, :smile: :wink: :smile:



No offense taken laughinggirl.flowerforyou

For my bro boonedoggy.drinker

Thanks bro. After all a "dirty" mind is a terrible thing to waste.:laughing:

For kelp. What are ya going to do with me? Put me in the "timeout" corner.:laughing:

:thumbsup: It`s ALL good. :thumbsup:

yes...as a matter of fact you and boonedoggy are on time out...consider yourselves spanked.:laughing:

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