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Miami Valley area in Ohio?
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Dayton
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Favorite 80s Movies?
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Night of the Comet, The Thing.
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Dayton area?
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There's not too many it seems.
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The Iraqi Army
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In Basra the Iraqis had US and British air suppoort, stacking the odds heavily in their favor. The other day when this happened, a sandstorm had grounded all American air power. They were a defensive force and they retreated. If the US did not aide the Iraqi Army, Sadr and his army would quickly defeat them. Thats my guess! Then the civil war would be over, our boys could come home. You do know Saddam was a Sunni, right! And while Sadr stayed and defied him, Malaki left the country. Only returning when the US took Saddam out. He was gone for years, Sadr never left! Sadr has a 60,000 man, loyal, disciplined Army (they fight when he tells them and stand down when he tells them). They fight without US help and would win if the US wouldn't aide Malaki. Sadr fled to Iran, and has been there for a long time. |
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The Iraqi Army
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First off, so were our troops in both Dessert storm and this one. Second you cant compare them to us. they are fighting for and in their own country. Our troops come from peaceful communities and like you, have never experienced the terror and bloodshed of battle, while the Iraqis have been living in a combat zone for awhile now. You keep saying it wasn't bad, and yet both the Iraqi gov and our Pentagon keep saying it is the reason the offensive failed. Discipline and belef in the cause is what is missing! Many of the Iraqis in Basra did not simply flea the battlefield, they joined the other side. Honestly, I was expecting that they would have joined or failed to fight in MUCH greater numbers. The fact that it was so extremely small is shocking to me. And, I would say it is a good mark for the Iraqi Army. They have done many successful operations, including rescuing that cameraman, I believe he was with CBS, earlier this week. The fact that they are becoming quite experienced and not falling apart or running away in greater numbers or switching sides is a VERY good thing. The offensive failed, but they didn't lose ground either. It seems like the Iraqi Government is what caused it to fail, holding back the real offensive for they fear al Sadr and his influence. They are going to have to learn with further time, just like the Sunni Tribal leaders learned over time with al Qaeda blowing them up in greater numbers than US forces. Eventually, they turned sides and came on the side of the Iraqi Government and assisted them and US forces. This will happen with Sadr, his forces will continue to screw with things, kill their own people and it will turn. I think, I mean I dont grasp exacly how far loyalty goes, but I have to assume there are rivals to al Sadr in his own sect that could see a good opportunity to grab power from him and side with the Iraqi Government as well. You're forgetting something. It may well be true that one company isn't representitive of the force as a whole. But your problem stands when you consider this isn't an isolated event, and it happens now in 100% of operations the Iraqis lead. An army fleeing 3 times when they've only embarked on 4 operations is pretty ****ty. |
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The Iraqi Army
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I honestly don't think it's about oil. I think it's about 1984esque convenience. Keep your population scared and at war, and you can control them. Iraq was a very easy mark.
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The Iraqi Army
Edited by
Muldune
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Fri 04/18/08 08:53 AM
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I thought you were referring to the ambush in 2004 during the first incursion. Are you saying it happened again, today? Yes, follow the link! 
huh, I'm not seeing a link anywhere. 
Sorry man
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080418/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq Yea... definitely not surprising. I can't help but chuckle, because they must have not had any fixed defensive positions for this to have happened. At least the insurgents use RPGs and PKMs (even it is improperly). I think we need to ditch the organizational structure of the Iraqi army, and just let them go back to running around like idiots firing RPGs off in every direction. Why the hell are we there... |
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The Iraqi Army
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I thought you were referring to the ambush in 2004 during the first incursion. Are you saying it happened again, today? Yes, follow the link!
huh, I'm not seeing a link anywhere. |
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The Iraqi Army
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I'm not seeing anything on the main outlets, but I did find an AP article now. Well this is a pretty big, but not surprising setback. Although the US will be there to reclaim it and make excuses for the Iraqi army, no doubt.
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The Iraqi Army
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I thought you were referring to the ambush in 2004 during the first incursion. Are you saying it happened again, today?
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The Iraqi Army
Edited by
Muldune
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Fri 04/18/08 08:36 AM
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It's not just training. If you hand an AK to an Iraqi, and then then also take one for yourself... is your initial thought to cut the stock off and use it like a silly pistol? I doubt it. For Iraqis it is. This is one of many deficiencies they experience. While some of it is training, just like most African countries, a great deal of it learned nonsense throughout their lives. You can't fix that in 20 years, let alone 6. An entire generation is going to have to be replaced before the problem will be repaired. Lets not forget while using this analogy that the Medhi Army are also Iraqi's! And I am also referring to the Mehdi army. The reason the Iraqis (The army) "lost" is they were fighting an entrenched enemy with a poor plan. It's always more difficult to assault a target (as opposed to defending one), particularly an urban one. Throw in the Iraqi's inability to use support weapons properly, and it's a nightmare. I would have retreated, as well. edit: for clarification |
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The Iraqi Army
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It's not just training. If you hand an AK to an Iraqi, and then then also take one for yourself... is your initial thought to cut the stock off and use it like a silly pistol? I doubt it. For Iraqis it is.
This is one of many deficiencies they experience. While some of it is training, just like most African countries, a great deal of it learned nonsense throughout their lives. You can't fix that in 20 years, let alone 6. An entire generation is going to have to be replaced before the problem will be repaired. |
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Date the girl in your picture. She's smokin'
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Dayton area?
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Doing alright. Dayton is dead on here.
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Dayton area?
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Hello,
How are you today? |
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Dayton area?
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I know there's a few of you out there
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Iraqis to the US....GET OUT!
Edited by
Muldune
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Thu 12/27/07 04:25 PM
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oh and by the way their is no such thing as just a 'confidential' clearance. Just FYI
Now I know you're lying. (or not familiar with replacement lingo) http://www.taonline.com/securityclearances/ The Confidential security clearance is the easiest to obtain. Whereas other classifications will almost always involve a background check by the Defense Investigative Service (DIS), clearance programs for a confidential classification may be operated by the agencies themselves, like the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Department of Energy (DoE), the Department of State, etc. I'm sure you're also aware that falsely claiming to have a clearance is now a felony (Safe America Act, Military Commissions, etc) What's your CID field office number? You should consult with them. Just because it's FOUO doesn't mean it doesn't exist. |
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Iraqis to the US....GET OUT!
Edited by
Muldune
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I know more about TS than you do clearly, because devulging the nature of knowledge is also a ridiculous risk. The fact you did it on a public board makes you even more at fault. So what branch are you in, exactly soldier? I really hope you just have a confidential clearance or else I'm really going to be ashamed.
You should know better. edit: Not to mention you did so to justify an argument by flying in, saying "This is how it is, but it's a secret so I can't tell you why" |
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Iraqis to the US....GET OUT!
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To everyone, if you haven't been there HOW do you know what's going on? CNN? another News channel? Someone Telling you what to think and not looking up the facts for yourself? just wondering. I'm not going to post my opinion but i will leave you with a little qoute that i have come to love "if you don't stand behind our troops feel free to stand in front of them." have a happy new everyone Oh and i'll add one more thing...i hold a TS clearance on some of these matters and the picture the news paints is often very distorted because they are like any other tv channel they want rating and they leave a lot out. So again i encourage you to educate yourselves and learn to think for yourself and not beleive everything you hear. If the vast majority of americans knew the true story i don't think we would have half the debates over this subject as we do now. Please, tell us the true story. Otherwise, coming into an argument and claiming secret clearance is pretty silly. 2+2=5. I can't tell you why, it's a secret. |
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Iraqis to the US....GET OUT!
Edited by
Muldune
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Sun 12/23/07 10:44 AM
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Funny example, as I am a Serb. Sure, the Muslims will want you there on the surface. thanks to your safe zones, arms trafficking has never been higher.
Thanks! and kforce is not an occupying entity, so its no where near the same thing. and a translator is Field combat support. In the field, is it not? and Ad, I said said support troops speak to Iraqis less. I was combatting your word-as-gold nonsense. |
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