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Topic: A protest to the Muslim Religion
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Fri 03/29/19 08:21 PM
This is the United States of America this is not a protest to profess your beliefs. I do however think she has as.much right to her prayers as everyone else under our laws. But there should be no religious persecution by not asking if she wishes to lead a prayer. Nor do I think that her prejudice against Christianity should be negated either.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/first-muslim-woman-in-pennsylvania-house-felt-invoking-jesus-in-opening-prayer-was-a-protest-of-her-religion

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Sat 03/30/19 05:34 AM
Edited by tombraider on Sat 03/30/19 05:36 AM


I tried linking to that site and couldn't and since your email parameters restrict me..I suppose I will have to give you some of the info here..there is an agenda here in the U.S that many are not aware of..check some sites on Michigan and this woman as well Brigitte Gabriel she gives several lectures you will find on youtube..Give these a listen and perhaps they will make things a little more clearer as to what I am eluding to..

There are a lot of things that will not be brought to light in the main stream media..there is a reason for that..there is a covert agenda here in the states..and one we should all be made aware of before it gets out of hand..and becomes too late..just search Muslims in Michigan and it will become more than clear

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Sat 03/30/19 07:46 AM



I tried linking to that site and couldn't and since your email parameters restrict me..I suppose I will have to give you some of the info here..there is an agenda here in the U.S that many are not aware of..check some sites on Michigan and this woman as well Brigitte Gabriel she gives several lectures you will find on youtube..Give these a listen and perhaps they will make things a little more clearer as to what I am eluding to..

There are a lot of things that will not be brought to light in the main stream media..there is a reason for that..there is a covert agenda here in the states..and one we should all be made aware of before it gets out of hand..and becomes too late..just search Muslims in Michigan and it will become more than clear


I might not have agreed with you in the past, now I am. It's part of a plan to keep people off balance while the elitists get their way. And they're using the dem party to do their dirty work.

Just by chance, I was listening to Rush Limbaugh in the afternoon, before he made his appearances on Fox that night. His monologue on the radio hit the elitists right between the eyes. I've heard him before, going off on them. What threw me, was that he did it on Hannity. When he started it, Sean Hannity said nothing. Which is REALLY unusual For him. And- Fox did not step in with commercials during his monologue, which lasted a good half hour.

Limbaugh tied it all together. From this business of muslim religion, to AOC's new green deal, to the mueller report, to pencilneck schiff's garbage, it's all part of a master plan to kill off the Representative Republic we call our government, and put in their plan of them running the whole show.

Trump upset their applecart by putting the power back into the peoples hands. That's why they hate him so badly. They've managed to harness the MSM to spew propaganda about how Trump is bad for the country. It's all lies to keep the left angry. What the left doesn't know, is if they get their way, and back in power, the elitists will toss liberals and socialists aside like a used rag.

I'm sure they don't see it. They're too zeroed in on the minor junk, and not see the big picture. I've read Agenda 21, and I've seen parts of it being put into play already. My left handed thought on that, is that they get the USA in line with it, they'll use it as a way to strongarm the rest of the world into getting in line. I don't see China coming down without a fight, a major one. That would put their population numbers in what they believe it should be, but I doubt that the world would be a very fit place for them to exist.

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Sat 03/30/19 08:05 AM
Edited by tombraider on Sat 03/30/19 08:55 AM


There is far more at hand than most people realize..I have done the research for the past year..when one looks into pedophilia in our government..also if one looks into Saul Alinsky and his 8 levels of control ..and who he mentored not to mention others that he is associated with..If one takes a look at New Zealand and the fact that Podesta went there prior to the mosque attack to lay the ground work to blame Trump..and now we should follow what New Zealand is doing about once again gun 'laws..the UN is pushing their UN Migration Pact through our southern border whether we want it or not ..and over time we will become just like the EU..and there is ALOT in the EU that their press as well won't reveal regarding the immigrants..and the crimes against the citizens

Some would want to falsely accuse me by saying I'm anti Muslim..untrue I'm Pro American (think semantics to override the cards being played)..I have a problem with people coming into our country and thinking their religious law supercedes our constitutional law..This goes way DEEPER Than ALOT of people realize..but one has to dedicate the time to DO THE RESEARCH..One of their major objectives is to take our guns so that we are easier to overtake and control..

New World Order
Agenda 21
UN Migration Pact

These are all important subjects that people should familiarize themselves..This is NOT a conspiracy theory but what is in effect today


Don't expect the media to reveal any of this they are under strict control not to both here and the EU..not to mention if they don't publicize it ..it's easier to write people like myself off as conspiracy theorists..spock


While one can use their search engine I find youtube to be a good source as well because there it's right in your face easier to discern and validate for yourself

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Sat 03/30/19 11:29 AM
Having an agenda and achieving said agenda are two different things

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Sat 03/30/19 12:51 PM
You are correct.

There are many ways an agenda gets screwed up. Including dirty pups like us that can and will foul up their plans.

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Sat 03/30/19 02:13 PM
smh.

the media can only edit. they cant create words from a persons own mouths or on their tweets. Trump makes HIMSELF look bad, that is not the fault of media.



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Sat 03/30/19 04:22 PM
Why is it that when I read this sort of thing I smell a conspiracy theory? It is my, perhaps naive, belief that the world is far simpler than the conspiracy theorists would have us believe. Basically what you see is what you get.

The idea that the media in The West is 'not allowed' to report what would be a truly shocking story is too silly for words. The media print what they want - including totally made-up stories - just to get sales. At least they do here in the UK and I have no particular reason to believe it's different anywhere else, except of course in places like communist-controlled Russia, North Korea and China where the state is in total control of the so-called media.

Relax, if you're terrified about something dreadful, it just isn't going to happen. Trump will eventually be punished for all those lies and other offences, but not in the near future. All in good time.

Having said that there is a worrying tendency in politics today, both in the US and the UK, probably Europe too, for people to 'belong' to a strongly held opinion that will not allow those they like to appear to be doing any wrong at all. For some weird reason, all the wrong in the world is 'their' fault and none is 'our' fault. Trump is quite a good example, there are many who thing he is wonderful and cannot do a thing wrong. There is even a group of Women For Trump. I guess they don't know how he treats women or somehow manage to ignore the things he has said and done. Politically, any criticism is just wrong. Anything and everything the Democrats have done or are doing is reprehensible, etc, etc.

And of course the other way around. How many people think that some Trump policies are actually quite good while at the same time think that some of the Democrat ideas are quite good? Wouldn't it be great to have politicians who have all those good ideas and none of the bad ones?

It's becoming the same here in the UK over Brexit, where instead of following the lead of our Prime Minister, every MP has his or her own idea of the 'best thing for the country' and will not compromise on anything at all. Thus, we have stalemate so far because nobody will compromise at all and there are far too many possible options, each with a few supporters.

I'm glad I'm old and won't be around to see the effects of this in 50 years' time. I feel sorry for small kids who are not being shown good examples of how to behave when they become adults. frustrated

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Sat 03/30/19 04:27 PM
Sorry if the above was a bit off topic. I could add that there are 'extremists' in every religion as well as in every government. People with similar beliefs to those stated above. It is indeed wrong that religious law should be considered 'above' the law of the land. It isn't and anyone who thinks that it is could find themselves punished for doing something that is 'right' according to the belief system, yet 'wrong' in the eyes of the law. This applies to every belief system, and not only to Muslems. It's unfair to pick on them, all religions have their black sheep and all are to blame.

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Sat 03/30/19 04:32 PM
Plus, people seem to forget how much Catholics were feared and hated back in the early 1900's....they thought they were going to turn this into a nation of "papists"...

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Sat 03/30/19 04:57 PM



All I can say is DO THE RESEARCH..spock I never said Trump can do no wrong..after all no one is perfect..and would be ridiculous to even think so. but I know that Trump may be the only chance we have to save the nation from the Globalists or the UN..and their BS ideology of a New World Order and the UN Migration Pact..at the cost to their citizens in one form or fashion...truth is it's a free country and people form the opinions they do..by the knowledge they obtain..I just suggest people DO THE RESEARCH..because eventually the truth will reveal itself ..and it's not what the main stream media spews in a lot of cases..

as for myself I have spent the whole last year doing the research..and some of the things I've uncovered never saw the light of day on the main stream media..In time it will come out..some of it any ways..So for me it's not a matter of debate it's just a matter of time before vindication..tic..toc

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Sat 03/30/19 05:19 PM

Why is it that when I read this sort of thing I smell a conspiracy theory? It is my, perhaps naive, belief that the world is far simpler than the conspiracy theorists would have us believe. Basically what you see is what you get.

The idea that the media in The West is 'not allowed' to report what would be a truly shocking story is too silly for words. The media print what they want - including totally made-up stories - just to get sales. At least they do here in the UK and I have no particular reason to believe it's different anywhere else, except of course in places like communist-controlled Russia, North Korea and China where the state is in total control of the so-called media.

Relax, if you're terrified about something dreadful, it just isn't going to happen. Trump will eventually be punished for all those lies and other offences, but not in the near future. All in good time.

Having said that there is a worrying tendency in politics today, both in the US and the UK, probably Europe too, for people to 'belong' to a strongly held opinion that will not allow those they like to appear to be doing any wrong at all. For some weird reason, all the wrong in the world is 'their' fault and none is 'our' fault. Trump is quite a good example, there are many who thing he is wonderful and cannot do a thing wrong. There is even a group of Women For Trump. I guess they don't know how he treats women or somehow manage to ignore the things he has said and done. Politically, any criticism is just wrong. Anything and everything the Democrats have done or are doing is reprehensible, etc, etc.

And of course the other way around. How many people think that some Trump policies are actually quite good while at the same time think that some of the Democrat ideas are quite good? Wouldn't it be great to have politicians who have all those good ideas and none of the bad ones?

It's becoming the same here in the UK over Brexit, where instead of following the lead of our Prime Minister, every MP has his or her own idea of the 'best thing for the country' and will not compromise on anything at all. Thus, we have stalemate so far because nobody will compromise at all and there are far too many possible options, each with a few supporters.

I'm glad I'm old and won't be around to see the effects of this in 50 years' time. I feel sorry for small kids who are not being shown good examples of how to behave when they become adults. frustrated



I totally agree. I do think that partisan loyalty has overtaken logic and common sense. I am grateful we have term limits on the office of POTUS though.




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Sat 03/30/19 05:23 PM

Sorry if the above was a bit off topic. I could add that there are 'extremists' in every religion as well as in every government. People with similar beliefs to those stated above. It is indeed wrong that religious law should be considered 'above' the law of the land. It isn't and anyone who thinks that it is could find themselves punished for doing something that is 'right' according to the belief system, yet 'wrong' in the eyes of the law. This applies to every belief system, and not only to Muslems. It's unfair to pick on them, all religions have their black sheep and all are to blame.


I once again agree. And I feel it is important to have common sense and significant laws that are more than merely about custom or tradition, but about necessity and safety.

For instance, I understand why people need faces to be visible in DL photos, or wear certain uniforms for certain jobs.

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Sat 03/30/19 07:10 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Sat 03/30/19 07:11 PM

Plus, people seem to forget how much Catholics were feared and hated back in the early 1900's....they thought they were going to turn this into a nation of "papists"...


So we should blame every Christian for the deeds of the Roman Catholic Church and their assaults over a century ago or even centuries ago. The invasion of the pilgrims seeking freedom of religion. It's just time to start sharing prayer time with other religions in order to not allow any religion to look or feel persecuted in this country and show we can accept one another in tolerance and acceptance. Show change and quit living in the past of centuries old hatred.

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Sun 03/31/19 01:55 AM
Absolutely NOT, read my post. I said every religion has its black sheep. The majority in all cases are nice normal people. In the past, Christians fought and killed many muslems, is it surprising that now some of them hate Christians and are out to 'get even'. Sad but true.

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Sun 03/31/19 02:40 AM

Absolutely NOT, read my post. I said every religion has its black sheep. The majority in all cases are nice normal people. In the past, Christians fought and killed many muslems, is it surprising that now some of them hate Christians and are out to 'get even'. Sad but true.


Three things the elders always said growing up:

People don't starve gracefully. An eye for an eye makes us all blind. But people often seek revenge when they lose those they love, not caring that the loved ones of those they harm will also want revenge, and on, and on, and on.



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Sun 03/31/19 09:09 AM


So we should blame every Christian for the deeds of the Roman Catholic Church and their assaults over a century ago or even centuries ago. The invasion of the pilgrims seeking freedom of religion. It's just time to start sharing prayer time with other religions in order to not allow any religion to look or feel persecuted in this country and show we can accept one another in tolerance and acceptance. Show change and quit living in the past of centuries old hatred.


" It's just time to start sharing prayer time with other religions in order to not allow any religion to look or feel persecuted in this country and show we can accept one another in tolerance and acceptance. Show change and quit living in the past of centuries old hatred."

THIS ^


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Sun 03/31/19 09:50 AM



So we should blame every Christian for the deeds of the Roman Catholic Church and their assaults over a century ago or even centuries ago. The invasion of the pilgrims seeking freedom of religion. It's just time to start sharing prayer time with other religions in order to not allow any religion to look or feel persecuted in this country and show we can accept one another in tolerance and acceptance. Show change and quit living in the past of centuries old hatred.


" It's just time to start sharing prayer time with other religions in order to not allow any religion to look or feel persecuted in this country and show we can accept one another in tolerance and acceptance. Show change and quit living in the past of centuries old hatred."

THIS ^



In India, we cling to the Lord's feet, and He keeps falling..

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Sun 03/31/19 12:42 PM
most of this jibberish seems off topic.
If the Muslim representative didn't want to hear about Jesus she should not have entered politics. We have always opened certain meetings with prayer. This is the United States so we speak English and Pray Christian prayers. If she wanted to hear Muslim prayers, then she should have run for politics in any number of overseas countries. Perhaps she would be able to make a difference in their policies. Or perhaps since she is a woman, the Muslim country would not even have allowed her to participate in an election. Either way, she is here, so When in Rome, (do as the Romans do). St. Ambrose 347AD. I personally am offended by Johnson-Harrell's wearing of that rag around her head, just like a couple of younger Muslims in Washington do. We do have freedom of religion, but flaunting their headware goes beyond that. Do Jews wear a kippah hat to vote in congress? There are many religious symbols that are not worn when doing business in Washington DC. Johnson-Harrell's main purpose here is not that she is "so offended", its because she wants more divisiveness and to cause trouble for both sides.

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Sun 03/31/19 12:51 PM
I feel there is too much people are offended by. I always felt that if we truly respect each other, we allow for differences. I feel that it does not harm me to listen to relate to someone else who is speaking from THEIR beliefs and values. I never cared if someone said Laikum salam or HAppy Hannukah, although I am neither Muslim or Jewish. We can only speak from one perspective at a time. I never understood issues people have about that. So long as no LAW is passed respecting or PROHIBITING a specific religious exercise, we should also be careful to not to socially limit speech around the divisions of different religion either. In government or professional surroundings, I think it would be best to take note of the diversity and switch up the openings to include different perspectives, with the speaker in all cases qualifying that it is THEIR perspective.

But other than that, like I said, I don't see the harm in hearing those perspectives out loud when opening meetings.




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