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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2. - part 2
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Thu 03/28/19 10:48 PM
Edited by jaish on Thu 03/28/19 11:48 PM

I wonder how many sick puppies are at this hate rally that are looking to kill some Democrat because of Trumps lies and hate spew?



President Donald Trump calls Democrats 'sick people,' takes victory lap on Mueller report during rally in Michigan
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"According to a new report from the New York Times Mr. Mueller has farmed out federal indictments to:
1) SDNY, in Manhattan,
2) EDNY, in Brooklyn,
3) EDVA in Virginia,
4) U.S. Attorney’s office in Los Angeles,
5) U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington DC,
6) DOJ National Security Division, and
7) DOJ Criminal Division.

So is the take away from all this? Those who are familiar with Mueller’s investigation understand that “no more indictments from Mueller” doesn’t mean “no more indictments.”

It means every single one of Mueller’s existing indictments resides in a “presidential pardon proof” prosecutorial district. Recall how Mueller handed off the Cohen case to the U.S. Attorneys’ office for the SDNY, who sent Cohen to prison. "
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In other words M's Report is just the end of a beginning.

Maybe we can look forward to getting facts before media inflates and distorts. Going by CNN and MSNBC ratings that plummetted after M's Report; one thing they can do to get back their leadership is by stopping from tailing the BBC and the Guardian (hence forward).


Desperate Republicans will do anything, lie, cheat, whatever it takes to cover up communist leaning Trump's dirty dealings.


If 'communist leaning' was replaced with 'casino peddler' it would improve credibility. Else the distinction between Sanders and Trump gets obscured.

Communism has a few good points like where land holding is low, collective farming. In India this practise is voluntary. We call it socialism.
Problem is such ideals don't work on ground (our experience) cause government employees have transferrable jobs and don't bring in the commitment of private enterprise.

In fact, Ukraines failure from being world's food basket to one of the poorest countries in Europe is a repeat of the communist experiment we had in two of India's states.

Out here we realize the way forward is socialism as base tier with capitalistic leadership. If this is what Sanders had in mind in areas like student loan, etc; it may be workable.

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Fri 03/29/19 12:04 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 03/29/19 12:16 AM

I wonder. If there was an investigation into a crime Hilary may have been involved with, but nothing was found to support Hilary in that crime, if people would just accept that she wasn't charged with the crime? ... oh , wait ....


In my opinion. Hilary was not found guilty of any crime, nor Obama. And they are not the POTUS. The current POTUS has also not been found guilty of any crime. However, if other crimes are uncovered in an investigation, it is not a waste, in my opinion. And plenty of charges were made against several involved, no matter how much others wish to pretend that didn't happen and that the investigation came up in any way 'empty' or 'a waste'.





Prosecutor: Grand jury in Russia probe 'continuing robustly'

"WASHINGTON (AP) — A grand jury that was involved in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation is "continuing robustly," a federal prosecutor said Wednesday.

The prosecutor, David Goodhand, made the revelation during a hearing over whether court filings in the Mueller probe should be unsealed related to an unidentified foreign corporation that had refused to turn over documents to the special counsel. Attorneys for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, seeking the filings, also sought to unmask the corporation and country behind it".

http://www.apnews.com/00c3f4de982b4ce79fafba0fced78f45


Many people don't know this: The current attorney general and man in charge of releasing the full Mueller report, William Barr, had been Attorney general once, in the 1990s, during President George H.W. Bush administration. Back then, the hot topic was the Iran Contra affair (you can look it up more details). The scandal happened during the Reagan administration and six people were charged among them the Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. After George H.W. Bush became president, he pardoned all six people with the support of his then attorney general, William Barr. The same one. At the time, the Iran Contra affair was the political scandal of everyone was talking about.

It was the United States sending weapons to Iran (which was under US embargo on weapons...) and used the money to support the rebellion of the Contras in Nicaragua, thus the name Iran- contra affair. So, yeah, it was quite a scandal. Barr and Bush still called it a witch hunt at some point. The special prosecutor who was in charge of the investigation and recommended charges complained after the pardon that " wealthy and powerful people can commit crimes and their powerful friends will protect them". He even added that granting pardon for truly committed crimes was a miscarriage of justice. So yeah people, I'm not judging Barr, just know he has a story with protecting criminals. So, we should already know what to expect from Barr.

The report will not be opened to the public until all legal actions are spent. The whole “collusion” thing has been punted like a football between Trump and media but is only part of the investigation. Now that that is concluded, the rest of the report can be processed. From the beginning, Trump is most worried about obstruction of justice. For that, he has not been cleared of.


Mueller is a smart guy and everyone was stunned by how quickly he ended his investigation. Barr and Trump's criminals were going to get involved and if possible end the Mueller investigation and had they done so any information from the Investigation would have been seized and gone forever. So here is a list of what Mueller farmed out as far as sealed Indictments go. (1) The SDNY in Manhatten. (2). The EDNY In Brooklyn. (3) EDVA In Virginia. (4). US Attorneys Office Los Angeles. (5). US Attorneys Office Washington D.C. (6). DOJ National Security Division. (7). DOJ Criminal Division. The best part is AG Barr cannot unseal these Indictments.

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A rally of half-truths and whole lies. Just for those suckers that keep following him.


AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s fabrications on autos, health care

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Rallying in Michigan, President Donald Trump bragged about a surging auto industry that isn’t surging, a Republican rescue for health care that has yet to take shape, a “total” exoneration in the Russia investigation that was not offered".

http://www.apnews.com/6c51f6c16edf4c3799ed375b53f6c00c




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Fri 03/29/19 05:03 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Fri 03/29/19 05:05 AM
Smollett is just another example of demos lies and deceitfulness. He gets help from the Obama's, so what does that say about them! Demos have No end to their Evil tactics.


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Fri 03/29/19 05:10 AM
Let's spend more money investigating Trump, Demos! That's what you do best!
Who needs leaders that have No more sense than Smollett.

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Fri 03/29/19 05:11 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Fri 03/29/19 05:14 AM




Hillary and Obama were never properly investigated..




:thumbsup:

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Fri 03/29/19 05:20 AM
Edited by tombraider on Fri 03/29/19 06:12 AM


HAPPY MAGA Day ..flowerforyou

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Fri 03/29/19 07:37 AM

I'm not even going to bother..because it's of no use..instead I am going to sit back and wait..as I bask in this Trump victory...again.. # WINNING..sit back with me favorite drink and a fresh bowl of popcorn and watch the show..LOL..what's on the telly today..I hear there is a new horror show on Hillary for President..my bad it's a comedy..

Two years of listening to the news spew scripted leftists garbage but today the sun is rising on a different shore as the waves crash over it's as if they are saying Trump in 2020..as the leftists scramble for anything they might find useful,Trump farted I think he was sending a coded fart to Putin..

aaah.. the Mueller investigation is over the leftists have become unhinged on the telly..it is indeed a wonderful day in Trumpland as I watch another Trump rally..pencil neck Adam Schitt..lol

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Fri 03/29/19 09:08 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 03/29/19 09:11 AM
garbage in, garbage out, scripted left or scripted right ,,, or regurgitated Trump Tweet mania ...

but this way, everyone can feel like they 'win'... The clintons, who likewise have had NOTHING turn up on them, OBama, who has had nothing turn up on him, and Trump, who has not been charged with anything either ...


YEAH! We are all "WINNERS" ... because THAT is what progress is about, whether our candidate is proven guilty of crimes or not. THAT is what it all hinges on ...

whoa

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HAPPY MAGA DAY ..smile2

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Fri 03/29/19 11:12 AM
Trump threatens to shut border with Mexico next week

"President Trump Friday threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico within a week, in a series of tweets in which he again expressed his frustration with what he called “weak immigration laws".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mexico-border-closing-would-be-a-good-thing-165712851.html

"Trump replaced the North American Free Trade Agreement with the not-yet-ratified United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement with the promise of creating a more level playing field for American workers. But the president’s trade war with China has had the opposite effect. U.S. imports from Mexico rose 10 percent in 2018, widening the trade deficit with Mexico by 15 percent, to a total of $80 billion, according to figures from the U.S. Census Bureau."

"Republicans had control of the House and Senate for the last 6 years of President Obama's term and 2 years of Trump's, why didn't they make the changes then?"

"Good. Let's stop the invasion of goods that are legally imported into the United States with only a week to find alternative sourcing. That will really help businesses who depend on said goods to operate."

Why don’t we ever hear speeches about the people who hire them? They will come as long as there are jobs. Which is to say forever.

"And yet in 2 years, all this President has put forward for immigration reform is to build a wall, and blame the Democrats."

"If we close that border, then why not close the Canadian border? Didn't the terrorists come thru Canada? Hasn't most human trafficking come from the West Coast?"





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Fri 03/29/19 12:45 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Fri 03/29/19 01:05 PM

Desperate Republicans will do anything, lie, cheat, whatever it takes to cover up communist leaning Trump's dirty dealings.


Bipartisan bull shitt is all I see no one offering possible solutions. Just bitchin about parties and news stations in league together to in effect cause exactly what is happening in this thread.

A new theory for why Republicans and Democrats see the world differently
Our political divisions aren’t red versus blue, but fixed versus fluid.
By Ezra Klein on December 18, 2018 8:50 am


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“Of the many factors that make up your worldview, one is more fundamental than any other in determining which side of the divide you gravitate toward: your perception of how dangerous the world is. Fear is perhaps our most primal instinct, after all, so it’s only logical that people’s level of fearfulness informs their outlook on life.”

That’s political scientists Marc Hetherington and Jonathan Weiler, writing in their book Prius or Pickup, which marshals a massive trove of survey data and experimental evidence to argue that the roots of our political divides run so deep that they make us almost incomprehensible to one another. Our political divisions, they say, aren’t about policy disagreements, or even demographics. They’re about something more ancient in how we view the world.

Hetherington and Weiler call these worldviews, which express themselves in everything from policy preferences to parenting styles, “fixed” versus “fluid.” The fixed worldview “describes people who are warier of social and cultural change and hence more set in their ways, more suspicious of outsiders, and more comfortable with the familiar and predictable.” People with a fluid worldview, by contrast, “support changing social and cultural norms, are excited by things that are new and novel, and are open to, and welcoming of, people who look and sound different.”

What’s happened in recent decades, they argue, is that politics in general, and our political parties in particular, have reorganized around these worldviews, adding a new, and arguably irreconcilable, difference into our political divisions. That difference is visible in everything from what we think to where we live to how we shop, but it’s particularly apparent in how hard it is for us to understand how the other side views the world.

Over email, Hetherington and I discussed his findings, and what they mean for American politics.

Ezra Klein
There’s a paragraph in your book I’ve been thinking about since I read it. You write, “America has had [political parties] basically forever and the country hasn’t always been polarized. For political parties to be polarizing, people need to feel that particular identity intensely.”

What’s the difference between being a Democrat, having a Democratic worldview, and having a Democratic identity?

Marc Hetherington
The ideological conflict that used to divide the parties was the size of government. The Democrats said bigger, the Republicans said smaller. Importantly, most Americans didn’t have intense commitments on this question. In addition, party elites could compromise across it. Hence, the political conflict spawned by it wasn’t rancorous most of the time.

Over email, Hetherington and I discussed his findings, and what they mean for American politics.

Ezra Klein
There’s a paragraph in your book I’ve been thinking about since I read it. You write, “America has had [political parties] basically forever and the country hasn’t always been polarized. For political parties to be polarizing, people need to feel that particular identity intensely.”

What’s the difference between being a Democrat, having a Democratic worldview, and having a Democratic identity?

Marc Hetherington
The ideological conflict that used to divide the parties was the size of government. The Democrats said bigger, the Republicans said smaller. Importantly, most Americans didn’t have intense commitments on this question. In addition, party elites could compromise across it. Hence, the political conflict spawned by it wasn’t rancorous most of the time.


Ezra Klein
This brings up something else I wanted to ask you about in the book. You argue that there’s an asymmetry in truth-seeking between the two sides — that “misperceptions about climate change, crime rates, and the side effects of vaccinations all find their staunchest defenders on the political right, rather than the left.” You go on to say that “evidence is piling up that those on the political right seem to have a stronger tendency to take steps to buttress their worldview than those on the political left.”

On the one hand, that very much seems to describe a political party in which Fox News is the most trusted news source and Donald Trump, a genuine conspiracy theorist, is the leader of the party. It’s also a hard conversation to have because even talking about differences in truth-seeking sounds insulting and biased, and it’s easy enough to come up with individual examples of lefties who believe crazy things (though left institutions seem more robust against those crazy things). Can you walk me through the evidence that convinced you?

Marc Hetherington
You express a concern about being seen as “insulting and biased” to conservatives, a concern we share. But it seems an asymmetric one. When did you last observe conservatives worrying that about exaggerating liberal pathologies? Regardless, we don’t argue there is some “problem” with conservative Americans. The problem starts with conservative leaders.

The simple fact is that Republican leaders more often traffic in falsehoods than Democratic leaders do — climate change denial, birtherism, suggesting voter fraud is rampant, and more. These are not positions of the conservative fringe. The president of the United States himself has embraced all these falsehoods. If Democratic leaders were similarly likely to push false narratives, more Democrats would believe them.

Conservative media amplify these falsehoods. This is what links what leaders say and do to what the public believes. Liberals tend to rely on a range of liberal and mainstream news sources. Conservatives tend to rely on a much smaller number of highly ideological sources. According to a 2014 Pew study, consistent conservatives expressed the same level of mistrust of ABC News as consistent liberals did of Sean Hannity.

Hence, conservative Americans are more likely than liberals to believe falsehoods about the other side. For example, Democrats were about 12 points more likely than Republicans to say that the Bush administration directed flooding to parts of New Orleans during Katrina. But Republicans were 34 points more likely to believe Obama was born in Kenya than Democrats and 32 points more likely to believe that Obamacare included “death panels.”

That doesn’t mean that there is no biased thinking among liberals. They, too, are more willing to support or oppose a policy because it is or isn’t being carried out by their team. But skepticism about basic facts does, in fact, differ markedly by party and ideology.

Ezra Klein
I’m very interested by the idea that the problem starts with conservative leaders. I’ve seen a lot of studies about how individual liberals and conservatives respond to misinformation in laboratory or survey conditions and the results usually don’t differ that much. And yet conservative institutions, like Fox News and the Republican Party itself, have spun off into dedicated peddlers of misinformation. It seems to me that there are two ways of conceptualizing this:

1) There are differences on the individual level between conservatives and liberals — i.e., conservatives respect authority more, or are more sensitive to threat — that are laddering up to the institutions they create or demand.

2) There’s something that’s happened in the conservative institutional ecosystem that’s led to it evolving away from truth-seeking standards and toward whatever it is that it’s become.

So when you say you blame conservative leaders, are you saying you buy some version of the second explanation rather than the first? If so, why?

Marc Hetherington
We think the two explanations are related and difficult to disentangle. There are likely individual-level differences that ultimately drive partisan and media institutions to provide misinformation. You’re right that researchers have yet to demonstrate many differences in how liberals and conservatives react to misinformation in the laboratory.

I posed this question to Brendan Nyhan, the leading scholar on political misinformation. His sense is that there may be something in the psychology of liberals and conservatives that causes them to react differently to misinformation, but at this point, the evidence is thin. This is because it’s difficult to determine whether conservatives express more belief in misinformation than liberals because they are more prone to believe it or because they are exposed to so much more of it.

Sure, there is partisan media on the left, but its audience is much smaller and it lacks misinformation peddlers like Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones. Why the much higher demand on the right? We think the answer must lie partially in the individual differences between liberals and conservatives.

The most likely reason would be a differential need for what psychologists call cognitive closure. Those we consider having fixed worldviews have a greater need for closure which suggests a greater need to avoid cognitive dissonance. They therefore are more likely to believe information that confirms their worldview. These differences may drive the supply of misinformation coming from political elites to some degree.

What’s for certain is that those who hate their opponents will be more willing to believe the worst about them. And Republican leaders have been bolder about exploiting that hatred of the other side than Democratic leaders have.

Ezra Klein
Let me close by asking you the question I always dread asking. I can imagine the pessimistic, or maybe even just realistic, story in which these trends simply continue. What’s the optimistic story about what can be done?

Marc Hetherington
I’m an optimist and even I can’t generate much optimism now. The hatred of our opponents that accompanies a party system divided by worldview is self-reinforcing and, ultimately, dangerous.

We appear to be approaching a crucible moment. Robert Mueller appears ready to produce evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to help win the presidency. Federal law enforcement has already indicated Trump himself broke campaign finance laws. Yet I suspect Republicans will greet both developments with a collective shrug. When you hate your opponent as much as Republicans hate Democrats, it is hard to give an inch on anything. Their response will cause Democrats to hate Republicans even more than they do now. And so on and so on.

For things to change, something must supplant these primal worldviews as the dividing line between the parties. That impetus must come from the top. Leaders set the grounds of debate. Ordinary people follow their lead. Democrats, for their part, seem to be trying. In focusing on health care and wages in 2018, they are making the dividing line about the size of government. It is a winning strategy.

I worry, though, that politics divided by worldview may be the natural state of things. We just didn’t realize that because we grew up in an anomalous time when the divide was about the size of government. Looking back over centuries, politics has almost always been fought between forces who favor the traditional and those who favor modernity. Governments didn’t have the resources to do much, so it couldn’t be the central source of division. We’ve gone back to the future.

As chapter seven of our book shows, the same process is playing out in Europe. Bolsonaro’s victory in Brazil suggests the same thing there. It is not a happy story.

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Fri 03/29/19 04:20 PM
At times you amaze me Seak ! So much truth in that article its actualy scary .
As caught up as i get in being "fluid" the anger creeps up on me at times .
Thanks for that point of view ! Quite fascinating :thumbsup: flowerforyou

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Fri 03/29/19 04:25 PM
U.S. Attorney General Barr will release redacted copy of Mueller report by mid-April

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General William Barr plans to make public a redacted copy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s nearly 400-page investigative report into Russian interference in the 2016 election by mid-April, “if not sooner,” he said in a letter to lawmakers on Friday".


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/mueller-report-on-trump-and-russia-to-be-made-public-by-mid-april-barr-idUSKCN1RA2CN


(Redacted)
re·dact
/rəˈdakt/
verb
past tense: redacted; past participle: redacted

edit (text) for publication.
"a confidential memo which has been redacted from 25 pages to just one paragraph"
censor or obscure (part of a text) for legal or security purposes.



Makes me wonder, What will they try to hide? What will they censor just to keep America in the dark and Trump on this side of a possible jail cell?

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Fri 03/29/19 05:52 PM



As they do those with awfully LOW I.Qs ..but that's ok..I have worked with special needs people before...spock


If anyone has committed a crime and they stand a FAIR trial,and I don't care who they are.. and they are found guilty,then they should pay the price..plain and simple..NO ONE is above the LAW..NO ONE!
[/qu well with the exception of a few elites in Chicago and LA and a few other places run by democrats.

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Fri 03/29/19 06:47 PM
All I have to say if we keep fostering hate towards each other instead.of compromise understanding and forgiveness, change the path of destruction we are on we will all lose.

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Fri 03/29/19 07:43 PM

All I have to say if we keep fostering hate towards each other instead.of compromise understanding and forgiveness, change the path of destruction we are on we will all lose.

You are right ! A clear voice of reason from a trump supporter i havent seen in a while and find refreshing .
Thanks again for the article it was a eye opener .

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Fri 03/29/19 08:03 PM
Edited by indianadave4 on Fri 03/29/19 08:11 PM
Senator Graham plans to investigate Obama-era controversies

For the most part the Mueller report landed with a thud. Senator Graham may assign a special council (like Robert Mueller) to investigate:

1. Hillary Clinton's Email-gate
2. The Carter Page fraud FISA warrant application
3. The ORIGIN of the dossier that led to the investigation of Donald Trump.
4. The individual behind the dossier: Christopher Steele (MI6 agent)

From news information that is available (but down played by the media), what the hate-Trump people in the democratic party may be guilty of is what they were accusing Donald Trump all along: the DNC colluded with foreign nationals to influence the 2016 election. CNN has back tracked on many of their hate-Trump stories. CNN: we're just reporters not investigators". (But they didn't confirm their facts)!!!! Fake News.

It will be interesting to see if the news media will do any solid reporting when all of the DNC's dirt comes to light. Of course, those who have staunchly hated Trump will make the same accusations against Senator Graham that Trump supporters made against those who initiated the Mueller investigation. If the DNC personnel are all innocent than they have nothing to fear.

The dump-Trump crowd began this fisco. Now as the 2020 election approaches lots of DNC dirt will be flying around the country and will affect the election just like the Mueller "ACCUSATIONS" affected the 2018 election. What goes around will come around.

Oh, Obama's wall street track record can't hold a candle to Trump's. Making America proud and great again.

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Fri 03/29/19 08:56 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 03/29/19 08:57 PM
In pursuit of Mueller's grand jury materials, Democrats face an impeachment dilemma

"In the aftermath of the special counsel’s investigation, Washington is girding for a conflict between Capitol Hill and the Department of Justice over Congress’s and the public’s access to the contents of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report and the evidence collected by his investigation, including the grand jury evidence".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/in-pursuit-of-muellers-grand-jury-materials-democrats-face-an-impeachment-dilemma-154955026.html


Back when Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, numerous lurid details were released to the public because until Bill Clinton Special Prosecutor reports were public. Following the very public humiliation, the Clinton Administration formulated new guidelines for Special Counsels and Prosecutors which specifically state that the reports are not public, they are submitted to the Attorney General. The Democrats know that but also know most people will not bother to look up the regulations regarding Special Counsels and Prosecutors. The Democrats also know that violating the sanctity of grand jury deliberations is extremely rare because grand juries need to follow the rules of evidence and there are frequently innocent people who appear before the grand jury whose privacy is at risk if their identities are released. The Democrats know that as well. That is why they are trying it in the court of public opinion, not in a court of law where they would get laughed out of court. They know that the court of public opinion is what matters most.

Donald Trump’s Talent for Turning Wins into Losses

"Trump’s week started Sunday afternoon with one of the biggest personal victories of his presidency. His attorney general’s four-page synopsis of the special counsel’s completed report said the intensive investigation “did not establish” that the Trump campaign “conspired or coordinated with the Russian government,” granting actual credence to what long had been a White House battle chant: “No collusion!” The good news continued with the sensational arrest of nemesis Michael Avenatti and a court case win concerning tariffs. Understandably, it was cause for a victory lap—giddy and combative proclamations on Twitter, a celebratory burst of White House hosting, a jaunty, chest-out trip over to Capitol Hill".

Then … he careened off track.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/29/donald-trumps-talent-for-turning-wins-into-losses-226339

Here's what's driving the ‘crisis’ at the border


"The border crisis that President Donald Trump used to justify declaring a national emergency was never real, but a different crisis at the border is now starting to escalate as immigration officials hold hundreds of parents and children in makeshift facilities, including a parking lot".

http://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/28/the-forces-driving-the-crisis-at-the-border-1303695

White nationalism, born in the USA, is now a global terror threat

"The recent massacre of 50 Muslim worshippers at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand is the latest confirmation that white supremacy is a danger to democratic societies across the globe.

Despite President Donald Trump’s suggestion that white nationalist terrorism is not a major problem, recent data from the United Nations, University of Chicago and other sources show the opposite".

http://theconversation.com/amp/white-nationalism-born-in-the-usa-is-now-a-global-terror-threat-113825

What Dumb Stuff Did Donald Trump Do Today?

http://whatdumbstuffdidtrumpdotoday.com/


Trump’s Financial Statements Are So Full Of Lies That His Accountants Put a Warning Label on Them

"Newly obtained documents show the brazen methods with which the president inflated his assets to banks and insurance companies".

"During his 72 years on Earth, Donald Trump has told something like 2,936,880 lies, based on my back-of-the-envelope calculations. (According to The Washington Post, the president has told at least 9,179 whoppers just since taking the oath of office—so, you do the math.) Sometimes, the lies are big, like the one he told about seeing “thousands” of supposed terrorist sympathizers “cheering” from New Jersey as the World Trade Center towers collapsed on 9/11. Other times, the lies are small and largely pointless, like his claim that he didn’t call Tim Cook “Tim Apple” when he 100 percent did, on-camera, in a room full of people. Frequently, the lies revolve around his net worth, including its origin (his father) and how big it is (a lot smaller than he claims). As we learned from Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony last month and a New York Times exposé last week, Trump’s lies about his wealth haven’t been confined to bragging about it on TV, but have also allegedly manifested in financial statements sent to banks and insurance companies, in which the ex-real-estate developer inflated his assets in order to obtain loans. And now, thanks to documents obtained by the Post, we have some fun examples of his most absurd financial claims, many of which are now under scrutiny".

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/trump-financial-statements-full-of-lies/amp






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Fri 03/29/19 09:01 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 03/29/19 09:17 PM

All I have to say if we keep fostering hate towards each other instead.of compromise understanding and forgiveness, change the path of destruction we are on we will all lose.


If most folks would get on the thread and talk reasonable, Like this, It would be so much better. The ones that can give reasonable argument are usually the ones I respond too. I take time to read what they say. Others, I skip over. They can't stay close to the topic or they say something silly or so far fetched even a 5-year-old wouldn't believe it. Or, they say something so cold and callous that I'm completely and utterly shocked. I can't believe a human being actually thinks that way. Anyway, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: waving waving

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