Topic: Illegals should be allowed Driver's licenses
I_love_bluegrass's photo
Sat 03/30/19 06:12 PM



My then wife and I were driving down the street, an illegal ran a stop sign, and plowed into us. He was drunk, had no licence, or insurance. The vehicle plates were for a Chevy, he hit us with a Ford. Had he not made his own vehicle undrivable, I'm sure he would have driven away.

Our insurance co. totaled out our van, even though I drove it home. I took the $2200 that they paid us, and I repaired it.



Hmmm..what state do you live in?

In Tennessee, a car that is declared "totaled" can't be insured easily..and, you are required to have insurance, so...

"If you or your insurance company decide to repair the vehicle, get it re-inspected and registered, it will be branded a salvaged or rebuilt vehicle. This does have some insurance implications. Because of the nature of salvaged vehicle titles, lots of insurance companies will flat out deny you coverage. The risk they present, even if they have been rebuilt, is deemed too much for insurance companies."

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Sat 03/30/19 07:57 PM
Freedom :fist:
No, wait, hang on
Liberty :fist:
No, man I got this, just a minute
McDonald's :fist:

Seakolony's photo
Sat 03/30/19 07:59 PM

Freedom :fist:
No, wait, hang on
Liberty :fist:
No, man I got this, just a minute
McDonald's :fist:

Oh yeah that's right they can't walk through the drive through...torutuos that suppressing them from the drive thru.

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Sat 03/30/19 10:57 PM
Torutuos? Are they served with salsa? If so I'm in
:fist: Tortutuos
:fist: Guacamole

Rock's photo
Thu 04/04/19 11:43 AM


DHS Agent Reveals Ulterior Motives Behind the Illegal Immigrant Invasion-700 DHS Agents Ordered to the Border.


https://thecommonsenseshow.com/immigration-martial-law-united-states-war/dhs-agent-reveals-ulterior-motives-behind-illegal

I_love_bluegrass's photo
Thu 04/04/19 12:26 PM



DHS Agent Reveals Ulterior Motives Behind the Illegal Immigrant Invasion-700 DHS Agents Ordered to the Border.


https://thecommonsenseshow.com/immigration-martial-law-united-states-war/dhs-agent-reveals-ulterior-motives-behind-illegal


I'd be nice to see factual references and sources on this other then a right wing group...
If it is such common knowledge, surely someone somewhere has actual facts?

FeelYoung's photo
Thu 04/04/19 01:05 PM
Even I at my age and living rural know where to go to get a FAKE drivers license and other things. There is nothing to stop them from getting photo ID and a license. Its WRONG. They are getting enough free things and they do NOT know how to drive in the United states. Even teens have to take drivers tests and often fail because they are unsteady or dont know all the rules. NO DRIVERS LICENSES for illegals.

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Thu 04/04/19 07:20 PM
Maybe its different in different states, I don't know.
But my cousin has no U.K. licence, but she has an American 1.
She reckons she'd fail here
She couldn't drive a stick, never has, and wouldn't want to, and says all she basically had to do was drive forwards and backwards a hundred yards, and put it in park.

Seakolony's photo
Thu 04/04/19 07:32 PM

Maybe its different in different states, I don't know.
But my cousin has no U.K. licence, but she has an American 1.
She reckons she'd fail here
She couldn't drive a stick, never has, and wouldn't want to, and says all she basically had to do was drive forwards and backwards a hundred yards, and put it in park.

Not here....the driver test include parallel parking three point turns parking driving turning complete stops and reverse driving.....my father included putting myself into a spin and getting myself out. How to drive in snow was an important lesson that saved me from being in a difficult situation.

Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 04/05/19 12:09 PM
When you can drive a stick shift, then you can drive almost Any vehicle!

That's what real training is. People should be Tested on that!

jaish's photo
Fri 04/05/19 12:43 PM

When you can drive a stick shift, then you can drive almost Any vehicle!

That's what real training is. People should be Tested on that!


In Saudi Arabia, if you come Late to Driving School it's considered ...

So they take your cell phone and leave it just behind the rear wheel of the car parked on the ramp while another trainee driver who has already failed the ramp test has to now repeat.

- sorry, bad English, real story, my phone (safe)

jaish's photo
Fri 04/05/19 12:50 PM


Maybe its different in different states, I don't know.
But my cousin has no U.K. licence, but she has an American 1.
She reckons she'd fail here
She couldn't drive a stick, never has, and wouldn't want to, and says all she basically had to do was drive forwards and backwards a hundred yards, and put it in park.

Not here....the driver test include parallel parking three point turns parking driving turning complete stops and reverse driving.....my father included putting myself into a spin and getting myself out. How to drive in snow was an important lesson that saved me from being in a difficult situation.


I thought this was on illegals who may not know what the anti-fog windscreen button meant.

ivegotthegirth's photo
Fri 04/05/19 12:57 PM
R2D2 reminded me of this it was in the news 3/4 years ago:

And it could happen just as easily here as in the UK but IIRC it was in London;
a group of 4/5 geniuses robbed a bank and their get away plan was to sleal a car. They did the robbery, ran outside and jumped into the first car they saw with keys in it. The law grabbed them several minutes later, in the car because it was a stick and of the whole bunch NONE of them could drive it!

I've been able to drive a stick or anything else since I was 12.

As far as illegals having drivers licences......I doesn't matter; they'll drive anyway. All that can be done is after they get caught the third or fourth time it's time for a free trip home on us. Deportation! I personally know of this very recently right here in Nebraska.

BTW they'll be back in a week anyway.......

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Fri 04/05/19 02:56 PM




My then wife and I were driving down the street, an illegal ran a stop sign, and plowed into us. He was drunk, had no licence, or insurance. The vehicle plates were for a Chevy, he hit us with a Ford. Had he not made his own vehicle undrivable, I'm sure he would have driven away.

Our insurance co. totaled out our van, even though I drove it home. I took the $2200 that they paid us, and I repaired it.



Hmmm..what state do you live in?

In Tennessee, a car that is declared "totaled" can't be insured easily..and, you are required to have insurance, so...

"If you or your insurance company decide to repair the vehicle, get it re-inspected and registered, it will be branded a salvaged or rebuilt vehicle. This does have some insurance implications. Because of the nature of salvaged vehicle titles, lots of insurance companies will flat out deny you coverage. The risk they present, even if they have been rebuilt, is deemed too much for insurance companies."



No, insurance companies won't allow you to drive a car that been totaled. Because you can't put full coverage insurance on it. Liability, is another story. Then you can't collect on repairs for your own car. They won't tell you this, but having full coverage on a car over five years old, isn't worth it. They'll total it, even if you just dent a fender. And give you almost nothing for it.

Mine was inspected before, and I canceled the full coverage on it. But I still had a clear title on it.

It's called having a paid-for vehicle.

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Fri 04/05/19 04:03 PM
Now I haven't read all of this thread, but surely this is an oxymoron, or / and a ruse

Excuse me, could all 'the illegals' please form an orderly queue.
We require your name, address and photograph
Thank you

Those godamned illegals, they shouldn't be allowed a....
No wait
Hang on a minute
What a fiendishly wonderful idea

I am of course, terribly sarcastic
In my country, they can't send you home, if you haven't got a passport
I actually feel sorry for the illegals that don't know this, and are honest, and when asked for it, hand it over.
Oh mate:see_no_evil: you poor sod

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/05/19 04:12 PM

Now I haven't read all of this thread, but surely this is an oxymoron, or / and a ruse

Excuse me, could all 'the illegals' please form an orderly queue.
We require your name, address and photograph
Thank you

Those godamned illegals, they shouldn't be allowed a....
No wait
Hang on a minute
What a fiendishly wonderful idea

I am of course, terribly sarcastic
In my country, they can't send you home, if you haven't got a passport
I actually feel sorry for the illegals that don't know this, and are honest, and when asked for it, hand it over.
Oh mate:see_no_evil: you poor sod



I think a lot of times people are framing crimes as if they are accepted or supported behavior. Fraudulent activity is generally a crime, prosecutable by law, and present in EVERY system the US has, or there would be little need to have laws about it.

Citizens and non citizens can obtain many things illegally. I think that intiially to obtain a drivers license, one is required to have a proof of legal residency. I do also believe some places are pushing to nix the requirement for proof of 'legal' residency and suggesting licenses only require some type of address.







Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 04/05/19 05:47 PM
The CDL or Commercial Driver's Licence test is not administered in Spanish. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration regulations require that the test only be administered in English. ... Some states do offer the CDL handbook in Spanish; however, all states are required to only offer the test in English.
http://www.reference.com/education/can-cdl-test-spanish-c27a88b1f10599ba

DPS can only offer the driver license knowledge test in English or Spanish. ... You may bring someone to translate, but the translator may only help the applicant communicate with the CSR before and after the knowledge or driving test is given. Translators are not allowed to help you during the tests.
http://www.dps.texas.gov/driverlicense/translators.htm

Rules vary by state, but a number of states allow drivers to take at least the written portion of the driver's test in Spanish. Areas with high percentages of immigrants may offer the written test in other languages as well.
http://www.reference.com/vehicles/can-driving-test-spanish-2c0b4b11744e3ee4
New Jersey offers the written driver's test in 10 languages, which allows people who don't know English as a first language to demonstrate their knowledge of driving rules.

Social Security card.
Identification (photo ID or passport)
Proof of state residency (copy of lease, utility bill or mortgage)
Proof of citizenship (birth certificate, passport, resident card, etc.)


Current proof of registration of the vehicle.
Current proof of insurance for the vehicle.
The permit that was issued to you.
A driver license or permit issued previously by any state or country (if applicable).

Seakolony's photo
Wed 04/10/19 10:20 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Wed 04/10/19 10:21 PM

The CDL or Commercial Driver's Licence test is not administered in Spanish. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration regulations require that the test only be administered in English. ... Some states do offer the CDL handbook in Spanish; however, all states are required to only offer the test in English.
http://www.reference.com/education/can-cdl-test-spanish-c27a88b1f10599ba

DPS can only offer the driver license knowledge test in English or Spanish. ... You may bring someone to translate, but the translator may only help the applicant communicate with the CSR before and after the knowledge or driving test is given. Translators are not allowed to help you during the tests.
http://www.dps.texas.gov/driverlicense/translators.htm

Rules vary by state, but a number of states allow drivers to take at least the written portion of the driver's test in Spanish. Areas with high percentages of immigrants may offer the written test in other languages as well.
http://www.reference.com/vehicles/can-driving-test-spanish-2c0b4b11744e3ee4
New Jersey offers the written driver's test in 10 languages, which allows people who don't know English as a first language to demonstrate their knowledge of driving rules.

Social Security card.
Identification (photo ID or passport)
Proof of state residency (copy of lease, utility bill or mortgage)
Proof of citizenship (birth certificate, passport, resident card, etc.)


Current proof of registration of the vehicle.
Current proof of insurance for the vehicle.
The permit that was issued to you.
A driver license or permit issued previously by any state or country (if applicable).


Okay so not every naturalized citizen or college student on Visa, which both are legal entrance, always speak English. Besides the United States has no national language and if we did, what would we speak? Cherokee, Seminole, Spanish, Yiddish, Crow, etc., the list goes on....If is to be the first citizens of this lands language, which tribal language would it be hmmmm, conundrum much? Does anyone else's mind spin like mine so strange lol.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/11/19 09:02 AM


The CDL or Commercial Driver's Licence test is not administered in Spanish. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration regulations require that the test only be administered in English. ... Some states do offer the CDL handbook in Spanish; however, all states are required to only offer the test in English.
http://www.reference.com/education/can-cdl-test-spanish-c27a88b1f10599ba

DPS can only offer the driver license knowledge test in English or Spanish. ... You may bring someone to translate, but the translator may only help the applicant communicate with the CSR before and after the knowledge or driving test is given. Translators are not allowed to help you during the tests.
http://www.dps.texas.gov/driverlicense/translators.htm

Rules vary by state, but a number of states allow drivers to take at least the written portion of the driver's test in Spanish. Areas with high percentages of immigrants may offer the written test in other languages as well.
http://www.reference.com/vehicles/can-driving-test-spanish-2c0b4b11744e3ee4
New Jersey offers the written driver's test in 10 languages, which allows people who don't know English as a first language to demonstrate their knowledge of driving rules.

Social Security card.
Identification (photo ID or passport)
Proof of state residency (copy of lease, utility bill or mortgage)
Proof of citizenship (birth certificate, passport, resident card, etc.)


Current proof of registration of the vehicle.
Current proof of insurance for the vehicle.
The permit that was issued to you.
A driver license or permit issued previously by any state or country (if applicable).


Okay so not every naturalized citizen or college student on Visa, which both are legal entrance, always speak English. Besides the United States has no national language and if we did, what would we speak? Cherokee, Seminole, Spanish, Yiddish, Crow, etc., the list goes on....If is to be the first citizens of this lands language, which tribal language would it be hmmmm, conundrum much? Does anyone else's mind spin like mine so strange lol.



I think the idea is we dont have signs in all the languages spoken here. I dont think anyplace does. So we use the most broadly used, the one the constitution is written in, which is English, and the one that is used on our street signs. I dont disagree that to drive here, drivers should understand the language the signs are in.



Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 04/11/19 09:46 AM


The CDL or Commercial Driver's Licence test is not administered in Spanish. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration regulations require that the test only be administered in English. ... Some states do offer the CDL handbook in Spanish; however, all states are required to only offer the test in English.
http://www.reference.com/education/can-cdl-test-spanish-c27a88b1f10599ba

DPS can only offer the driver license knowledge test in English or Spanish. ... You may bring someone to translate, but the translator may only help the applicant communicate with the CSR before and after the knowledge or driving test is given. Translators are not allowed to help you during the tests.
http://www.dps.texas.gov/driverlicense/translators.htm

Rules vary by state, but a number of states allow drivers to take at least the written portion of the driver's test in Spanish. Areas with high percentages of immigrants may offer the written test in other languages as well.
http://www.reference.com/vehicles/can-driving-test-spanish-2c0b4b11744e3ee4
New Jersey offers the written driver's test in 10 languages, which allows people who don't know English as a first language to demonstrate their knowledge of driving rules.

Social Security card.
Identification (photo ID or passport)
Proof of state residency (copy of lease, utility bill or mortgage)
Proof of citizenship (birth certificate, passport, resident card, etc.)


Current proof of registration of the vehicle.
Current proof of insurance for the vehicle.
The permit that was issued to you.
A driver license or permit issued previously by any state or country (if applicable).


Okay so not every naturalized citizen or college student on Visa, which both are legal entrance, always speak English. Besides the United States has no national language and if we did, what would we speak? Cherokee, Seminole, Spanish, Yiddish, Crow, etc., the list goes on....If is to be the first citizens of this lands language, which tribal language would it be hmmmm, conundrum much? Does anyone else's mind spin like mine so strange lol.

I've often pondered that myself. Tho Spanish was never a choice because just like English, it is an invader's language.

There are a few different historical accounts as to the settlement of N America.
The oldest is saturation from the Alaskan land bridge, down thru the hemisphere. In that case, we probably speak in an East Slavic language.
Then there is the idea of civilization established languages which developed later. It is suspected that native N Americans were primarily from the Aztec Nation. If that were the case we would be speaking an Uto-Aztecan language mixed with East Slavic. I don't have any knowldge about the roots of native American languages but I think I read somewhere once that all the languages have common root. That common root (guessing) might be Uto-Aztecan-East Slavic?