Could you define God as energy?

God has always existed, and is never created or ever be destroy.

Energy has always existed and is never created nor destroyed.

So the answer to the question if there is a God is: yes. But is there a God in the biblical sense or a god as everyone being, object, and thing in the whole universe is god?

I believe in god

god is omnipresent

I think everyone knows where I stand on that issue. Unless they've only just now tuned in.

God created the heavens and the earth. I've read his book.

Did you know that Moses was God's PR man? Got him the first five books in the Bible!

But if everything in the universe is god then what exactly is the our purpose? Why does energy convert into matter convert into lifeforms convert into thoughts?

I find it a rather subservient view of life to believe that we are no more than a mechanical creation, deivined to achieve some menial task. And the idea that we must have a purpose or reason to exist, is only supportive of a subservient mind, willing to accept the role of a slave.

But then, a slave is the responsibility of the master, and bears no fault for its state in life. If all glory must be given to the master than all fault is the masters' as well.

So there is the answer, God is the creation of man, to eliminate the burdens of responsibility and promote power of those who do not believe over those who would 'naturally' tend to be subservient.

No offense, just thinking though the question!

Our purpose?

The purpose of the universe is to have a way to experience things.

God experiences things through us.

We are this universe perceiving itself.

The universe is God.

The ‘purpose’ is the experience.

Now I ask you,… what would be the purpose of the biblical picture of God?

Just so some huge egotistical God can have a bunch of lower life-forms worshiping it and serving it?

Moreover, if you are so concerned with everything needing a purpose then what’s the purpose of God?

After all, if our purpose as humans is to serve God and that’s what gives meaning to our existence. Then what would give meaning to God’s existence? Being served???

From my point of view, the Biblical picture of God is all about a single egotistical creator that creates a universe based on his own desires. This is a God who has likes, dislikes, wants, and desires, just like a human being. Yet he is all alone. So he creates a whole bunch of pathetically inferior creatures to worship and serve him precisely how he likes. In this picture humans are nothing more than obedient pets of a higher life form. I’m not so sure that’s such a great purpose to have.

I mean if you think about it that way. Someone asks you what the purpose of life is and you say, “To be the pet of a higher life form”

Seems kind of strange to me.

Yes, being the slaves or pets of a God seems to be more of a predicament than a purpose.

Beofre God was, I AM. Or, so they say.

And he's a heck of a wrestler, too!

It is impossible for "nothing" to exist.

Therefore "something" has to exist.

It has no choice in the matter.

So if something has to exist, it may as well expand and manifest into all manner of things.

Hence the many universes.

Infinity is a long long time.

Hence the manifestation of a finite universe, to experience death and the concept of endings and beginnings.

Being a mindless mass of energy is boring.

Hence the manifestation of the mind.

Our purpose is to live, grow and see what else we can manifest.

JB

Red I was saying that if everything in the universe is God/energy then why would God/energy go through the process of converting itself into matter then into life then into thoughts of "Defind God... or Is there a God? or Questions believers are afraid to answer?"

There's a God and slave or not, he didn't let us off the hook.

Abra says



There is a simple explanation for this. These advanced alien being(s) from the Orion belt created humans using advanced DNA science for purposes unknown. Some people say it was to serve them as servants and/or slaves and/or to mine gold in Africa.

These beings were worshiped as Gods, and still are.

But the humans they created were such a good creation, these gods could not keep their hands off of the women and they had sex with them and created off-spring.

These off-spring still populate the earth. They are known as the royal families. They think they are superior to normal humans. They have "royal" (alien) blood.

These common people, not of the royal family, are considered a "bunch of pathetically inferior creatures" and they still worship and serve the royal families.

Anyone related to these families receive special treatment, and are elevated to leadership status like the President of the United States etc. who is related to royalty.

Us mere commoners are taught to worship these alien gods and are still in awe of the royal families of the earth, and still bow to them.

They are not gods. Their ancestors are not gods.

JB

Not everyone is hung up on such thoughts. Sane people are actually out enjoy life instead of trying to figure it out.

I think life is like an amusement park for spirits. When we decide to take a ride in an incarnation we choose to become ignorant of our true nature. After all, if we remembered our true nature the game would be over – TILT!

I believe that it is possible to enter into an incarnation and retain knowledge of our true nature. Maybe not in this incarnation. Maybe this particular incarnation (life on planet earth) it’s a prerequisite to forfeit all knowledge of our true nature in order to enter this incarnation. Ultimately we chose to enter it.

I also believe that when the ride is over, spirits will react to it differently. Some will say, “WOW! What a rush! I’m going back in for other ride!”

Other spirits will come away saying, “Ok, I didn’t like that one. Let me go ride some other incarnation”.

I think the spiritual world is like a huge library. We can ‘incarnate’ into any number of infinite ‘books’. They may even be differnet kinds of books. There may be incarnations where we can retain a full knowledge of our true nature and enter or leave them at will. There are other incarnations, like the one we are currently in that seem to be more ‘real’ because we have been detached from the true knowledge of our true nature. We can still leave the incarnation anytime we so choose via self-termination, and many spirits do just that.

When they do that they ‘wake up’ in the spiritual world and realize that it was just an incarnation. No harm done. They probably weren’t ready for this ride. Maybe they need to go back and read something a little easier to deal with.

Is there a purpose?

Like to make to the ultimate incarnation? Like are there levels?

Personally I don’t think so. I have a hunch that the incarnations are truly infinite. There’s no ultimate ceiling. And there is always something differnet to try. It’s impossible to become boring because there is no end to the imagination. Just when you thought you’ve seen it all, there’s something completely knew.

Take a single thought.

What does it spawn?

More thoughts!

Far more than you can possibly follow up on.

You must pick one to follow it’s impossible to following them all.

You could probably relive your own life on earth hundreds of times and live it so completely differently each time that other than the fact that you’re using the same body and starting out at the same birth place no two times you’ve lived it would ever be the same. And most of them would differ vastly from the way you lived it this time.

Finally, imagine that it could somehow become boring if you could possibly live every possible thing you could imagine. Well, guess what. You can just erase your memory and it’s all fresh again.

It’s impossible to become boring or old.

Just look at this universe alone. Over 70 thousand million million million stars (and potential worlds) just within the ovservable part of this universe.

And the observable part of this universe may very well be the smallest speck of the actual size of the whole universe.

As Carl Sagan once said, “The stage is far too big for the Biblical Drama”. What a waste of space if the biblical drama is true.

I think the real truth is that most people simply have no ability to comprehend the genuine infinity of possibilities.

The idea that some God created this universe for the purpose of raising humans as servants is seriously an extremely narrow-minded idea. And it’s no wonder. The men who wrote those stories thought the Earth was the ONLY planet around! They had no clue that our galaxy even existed much less any notion of the billions upon billions of galaxies that actually exist in the universe. They thought they were "Center-stage” in God’s Creation.

Guess again!

Abra,

Wow, that is about the same way I see it. Infinite incarnations in infinite worlds. For the earth world, some say, we have about 1500 incarnations in different time slots, not necessarily in sequential order. When the earth game is over, we all spiral out back to the higher self, and then move to on another world of our choice for a completely different kind of experience.

Ideas like this I have found expressed in books like "Matrix IV" (Val V.) (The Leading Edge research group) or: Robert Monroe, "Journeys out of the body," (The Monroe Institute)

Jane Roberts, "Nature of personal reality" "The Holographic Universe." (Michael Talbot) etc.

There is so much involved in an infinite universe.

JB

I'm sorry Fitness, that's what I get for being a fly-by-poster.

Well, then I guess I will have to point in the direction of Abras' post, in which he says that the physical IS the universe experiencing itself.

And in my words, creation then, is love, for what is love but a longing of love to know itself?

A agree. With that, I will now go back to bed and make love to myself. (Now where did I put that vibrating thingee.) I can never find my two invisible boyfriends when I need them.

God is love

What I find strange is that a lot of people say that, yet I've never seen a religion that actually worships love as its diety.

Although Reverend Rabbit did propose a religion based on love some time back when Redykeulous was asking everyone to propose their own religions.

The sad thing was that it didn't gain a large number of followers.