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Topic: Try not to offend anyone.......lol
Dragoness's photo
Sun 03/09/08 01:25 PM
nope sh*t happensbigsmile I do think in the case of patterns like women choosing the wrong man for them over and over and over, there is a lesson there that needs to be learned and it is not being learned. I think situations we create for ourselves in life are usually a learning lesson we need to learn from but other than that life happens and we get stronger from it or die.

Peccy's photo
Sun 03/09/08 01:29 PM
Edited by Peccy on Sun 03/09/08 01:31 PM
I can relate to most everyones feelings, except for Mirror Mirror! lol From, "Attitude is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you deal with it" to a simple, "sh*t happensbigsmile"


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Sun 03/09/08 01:34 PM
Good and bad... there are 2 sides to every coin... it's all about your perspective. I think life gives us challenges to make us stronger or to teach us things about ourselves or others... and no matter how hard the struggle, eventually some good comes out of it.

I have not walked an easy road... but I have no regrets because I am a better person for where I have come from. I think the BAD stuff is only BAD if we choose NOT to turn it positive.

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Sun 03/09/08 01:36 PM
and do people who get a lot of bad look, appreciate the good things more, then the answer is YES.

i appreciate being able to sit on my computer for a few hours without having a panic attack,or not being in so much pain, i cant sit on here. i appreciate things now that most people would totally take for granted. whether thats good or bad, i dont know.

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Sun 03/09/08 01:37 PM

Good and bad... there are 2 sides to every coin... it's all about your perspective. I think life gives us challenges to make us stronger or to teach us things about ourselves or others... and no matter how hard the struggle, eventually some good comes out of it.

I have not walked an easy road... but I have no regrets because I am a better person for where I have come from. I think the BAD stuff is only BAD if we choose NOT to turn it positive.


somethings are impossible to turn posotive. jmo flowerforyou flowerforyou

singingmyheartout's photo
Sun 03/09/08 01:39 PM

and do people who get a lot of bad look, appreciate the good things more, then the answer is YES.

i appreciate being able to sit on my computer for a few hours without having a panic attack,or not being in so much pain, i cant sit on here. i appreciate things now that most people would totally take for granted. whether thats good or bad, i dont know.


Debbie... I can relate. I used to live in Chicago. I have nerve damage in my back. The cold weather there was constantly making my condition worse... I moved to Arizona January 30th... and I swear most days I don't feel any pain at all. I am SO grateful to have mobility and be able to walk without pain.

The key is to not let the "bad stuff" get you down... keep plugging away and eventually it comes up roses.

lilith401's photo
Sun 03/09/08 01:41 PM
I think it helps to stop focusing on negative things and bringing them up all the time.

It's not productive.

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Sun 03/09/08 01:43 PM
yeah you are rıght ın that

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Sun 03/09/08 01:44 PM


and do people who get a lot of bad look, appreciate the good things more, then the answer is YES.

i appreciate being able to sit on my computer for a few hours without having a panic attack,or not being in so much pain, i cant sit on here. i appreciate things now that most people would totally take for granted. whether thats good or bad, i dont know.


Debbie... I can relate. I used to live in Chicago. I have nerve damage in my back. The cold weather there was constantly making my condition worse... I moved to Arizona January 30th... and I swear most days I don't feel any pain at all. I am SO grateful to have mobility and be able to walk without pain.

The key is to not let the "bad stuff" get you down... keep plugging away and eventually it comes up roses.


im glad things are better for you. flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Sun 03/09/08 01:45 PM

I think it helps to stop focusing on negative things and bringing them up all the time.

It's not productive.


ya, don't do it, don't ever do it, whatever you do don't do it.... teehee... morning sunshine.... you out of the blizzard yet??

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Sun 03/09/08 01:45 PM

like I care soooo much.....seriously though......Do you think bad things happen to people in life so they can truly appreciate the good things? (I have my own theory on this, but will wait to share it, hint, it's not divine)


LOL....this is a such an awesome thread topic....maybe appreciate is not the root of the thing, and naturally come after but maybe bad things happen to teach by experience rather than to tell.....i just don't see how you could tell somebody what life is the good and bad, and it become a part of them.....like gotta add 2+2 after your told how.....kinda like driving instead of being given directions, lol....and maybe if things are not seen as bad then the learning that comes from the experince each one can be understood QUICKER, as it seems the greatest fear of humans is to fail, and that makes it like impossible to learn from the individual experince, and anything learns much faster when happy and fun, and then less bad we have each day, since one begins to learn each challenge quicker, till all become super fast problem solvers, lol....yea, i know sounds utopian but i have not found any GOOD reason to NOT believe it myself, and the one that explained it to me i didn't agree with at first, lol.....he is a multi millionaire manufactuing president i dealt with in my business, which honeslty was the only reason i listened to him at first, certianly can say now it was becasue he was more succsessful than me, lol.....but it helped me a lot when i went thru my divorce and thought i lost my family and then did lose my business also.....like it was explained to me that life is just a big school, from k to collage, and everybody is learning at each a private special school, like a rich kid has a tutor, and makes it hard to see that each learn all the same but at different times, to keep up the learning for all, or it would be TOO easy if all learned the same THING together in unison, lol.....but all find the same principles in the end are what were being learned all along, that we are here to get smart, become problem solvers, and that all true problem solvers are naturally GOOD people just by default, and that trying to be good actually kept from being so, and most kept from honesty, and was actually the culprit of feeling a failure, which is why all that hurt or do bad do it to start with, and frankly i have seen it to be true, as it was what turned everything around for me, and i know that if i had known i would have learned enough by the time i got married and then ran a business, that i would not have needed to fail, lol....once i seen that just thinking failure of failing is people greastest, i just thought of others sooooooooooooo different.....and makes kinda what comes out of your mouth different by default....just what happened to me

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Sun 03/09/08 01:46 PM
And sometimes the "negative" aren't always bad.
My dad is permanently disabled... he can't work, sits at home all the time... and has a hard time getting around. HOWEVER... while we lived in Chicago, he was kind enough to babysit my kids after school while I was at work. SO--- while he was disabled (negative) he was able to spend quality time with his grandkids and form stronger bonds with them (positive).

Most grandparents are lucky to see their grandkids on some weekends or over the summer, let alone every day.

One should never focus on what is out of reach and unchangeable, but rather take steps to change that which is... SOMETIMES it makes the unchangeable more bearable.

lilith401's photo
Sun 03/09/08 01:47 PM


I think it helps to stop focusing on negative things and bringing them up all the time.

It's not productive.


ya, don't do it, don't ever do it, whatever you do don't do it.... teehee... morning sunshine.... you out of the blizzard yet??


Afternoon! Snow stopped, but no more salt for the roads. I did get to the store finally, so that's great. flowerforyou

Lily0923's photo
Sun 03/09/08 01:48 PM


like I care soooo much.....seriously though......Do you think bad things happen to people in life so they can truly appreciate the good things? (I have my own theory on this, but will wait to share it, hint, it's not divine)


LOL....this is a such an awesome thread topic....maybe appreciate is not the root of the thing, and naturally come after but maybe bad things happen to teach by experience rather than to tell.....i just don't see how you could tell somebody what life is the good and bad, and it become a part of them.....like gotta add 2+2 after your told how.....kinda like driving instead of being given directions, lol....and maybe if things are not seen as bad then the learning that comes from the experince each one can be understood QUICKER, as it seems the greatest fear of humans is to fail, and that makes it like impossible to learn from the individual experince, and anything learns much faster when happy and fun, and then less bad we have each day, since one begins to learn each challenge quicker, till all become super fast problem solvers, lol....yea, i know sounds utopian but i have not found any GOOD reason to NOT believe it myself, and the one that explained it to me i didn't agree with at first, lol.....he is a multi millionaire manufactuing president i dealt with in my business, which honeslty was the only reason i listened to him at first, certianly can say now it was becasue he was more succsessful than me, lol.....but it helped me a lot when i went thru my divorce and thought i lost my family and then did lose my business also.....like it was explained to me that life is just a big school, from k to collage, and everybody is learning at each a private special school, like a rich kid has a tutor, and makes it hard to see that each learn all the same but at different times, to keep up the learning for all, or it would be TOO easy if all learned the same THING together in unison, lol.....but all find the same principles in the end are what were being learned all along, that we are here to get smart, become problem solvers, and that all true problem solvers are naturally GOOD people just by default, and that trying to be good actually kept from being so, and most kept from honesty, and was actually the culprit of feeling a failure, which is why all that hurt or do bad do it to start with, and frankly i have seen it to be true, as it was what turned everything around for me, and i know that if i had known i would have learned enough by the time i got married and then ran a business, that i would not have needed to fail, lol....once i seen that just thinking failure of failing is people greastest, i just thought of others sooooooooooooo different.....and makes kinda what comes out of your mouth different by default....just what happened to me


Paragraphs would be nice, I would be more inclined to read it, and maybe take 1/2 the useless words out.... I read the first 2 lines and the last 2, and got what you were saying...

Lily0923's photo
Sun 03/09/08 01:50 PM



I think it helps to stop focusing on negative things and bringing them up all the time.

It's not productive.


ya, don't do it, don't ever do it, whatever you do don't do it.... teehee... morning sunshine.... you out of the blizzard yet??


Afternoon! Snow stopped, but no more salt for the roads. I did get to the store finally, so that's great. flowerforyou


My brother called he was on his way to my house and got stuck in a ditch... he has a 4x4 truck... I'm not braving it til tomorrow...jammies all day today..yippee...

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Sun 03/09/08 01:50 PM
i DONT think its bad, i appreciate such small things, that most would take for granted.

davidben1's photo
Mon 03/10/08 06:32 AM



like I care soooo much.....seriously though......Do you think bad things happen to people in life so they can truly appreciate the good things? (I have my own theory on this, but will wait to share it, hint, it's not divine)


LOL....this is a such an awesome thread topic....maybe appreciate is not the root of the thing, and naturally come after but maybe bad things happen to teach by experience rather than to tell.....i just don't see how you could tell somebody what life is the good and bad, and it become a part of them.....like gotta add 2+2 after your told how.....kinda like driving instead of being given directions, lol....and maybe if things are not seen as bad then the learning that comes from the experince each one can be understood QUICKER, as it seems the greatest fear of humans is to fail, and that makes it like impossible to learn from the individual experince, and anything learns much faster when happy and fun, and then less bad we have each day, since one begins to learn each challenge quicker, till all become super fast problem solvers, lol....yea, i know sounds utopian but i have not found any GOOD reason to NOT believe it myself, and the one that explained it to me i didn't agree with at first, lol.....he is a multi millionaire manufactuing president i dealt with in my business, which honeslty was the only reason i listened to him at first, certianly can say now it was becasue he was more succsessful than me, lol.....but it helped me a lot when i went thru my divorce and thought i lost my family and then did lose my business also.....like it was explained to me that life is just a big school, from k to collage, and everybody is learning at each a private special school, like a rich kid has a tutor, and makes it hard to see that each learn all the same but at different times, to keep up the learning for all, or it would be TOO easy if all learned the same THING together in unison, lol.....but all find the same principles in the end are what were being learned all along, that we are here to get smart, become problem solvers, and that all true problem solvers are naturally GOOD people just by default, and that trying to be good actually kept from being so, and most kept from honesty, and was actually the culprit of feeling a failure, which is why all that hurt or do bad do it to start with, and frankly i have seen it to be true, as it was what turned everything around for me, and i know that if i had known i would have learned enough by the time i got married and then ran a business, that i would not have needed to fail, lol....once i seen that just thinking failure of failing is people greastest, i just thought of others sooooooooooooo different.....and makes kinda what comes out of your mouth different by default....just what happened to me


Paragraphs would be nice, I would be more inclined to read it, and maybe take 1/2 the useless words out.... I read the first 2 lines and the last 2, and got what you were saying...


smiles....totally understand....just sharing.....i had no expectation of any response, so any is nice to get and thanks for sharing with me.....i am not very good at penning exactely what i wish to say and many here have helped me much already......what i was wondering is if there was any useful logic in it, or seemed to be true, as it just seems so hard to believe for me that just taking the belief of right and wrong away when hearing ones own thoughts lead to nothing bad ever happening to humans again....and that this very thing could possibly be why the same bad happen over and over again in history even up till now.....i am not here to seek approval but rather to find solutions to problems, as we all live here together in the same place, and i only share for that purpose......if i only wish for my pain to be gone, than what about my neighbor that live with pain....how can i be happy if he be unhappy, as he will torment me, so my own happiness is of no use, lol....and why problem solving together is my wish....thanks Diane

Jess642's photo
Mon 03/10/08 06:32 AM

like I care soooo much.....seriously though......Do you think bad things happen to people in life so they can truly appreciate the good things? (I have my own theory on this, but will wait to share it, hint, it's not divine)


Most time we manifest our own experiences.

davidben1's photo
Mon 03/10/08 07:42 AM

Good and bad... there are 2 sides to every coin... it's all about your perspective. I think life gives us challenges to make us stronger or to teach us things about ourselves or others... and no matter how hard the struggle, eventually some good comes out of it.

I have not walked an easy road... but I have no regrets because I am a better person for where I have come from. I think the BAD stuff is only BAD if we choose NOT to turn it positive.


i like your two sides of the coin, and the very thing i have thought, and why it appears the only persepctive that can eliminate two sides, and make just one out of the two, is to not see the negative, but that be inpossible to do looking at the action, as this is not the origin, but it be thoughts that create words that then create actions....and there at this crucial developement or birth stage see the thought as neutral, not negative nor positive, not good nor bad, and would make sense that all people are indeed perfect, just do not know how to be, but this thing is not taught to our kids, when they are young.......how if this be done, could there be any bad created....the negative impulse from thoughts could lead to many very bad actions, as it seems humans judge themselves based on their thoughts, and think falsly that these make us who we are.....nothing can hurt anything else less it first think itself be bad, and therefore then think others are bad, and are the same as themself, so one would have to be able to show how NONE are bad first.....as it seems no human be content without love in some way, even the worst of crimminal, that love be the inherent state of each being when born....then there must be a way to unlock it within all.....to not is to believe that there are just evil people born that are screwed up, but how can this be, as no person choose whom they would be born to, so the parent nor surroundings can be to blame, or this blame would continue forever backward to where, and this then would mean there would be no hope of a peaceful society for us nor our children ever, and that each day things would continue till we destroy each other in doom........the only way we unlock is to go past personal emotion, to begin to find solutions together, and not blame, and this cannot be achieved with good and bad thoughts that i can see......there are many in psychology that are at the thought level, and say control the thoughts...but this means they think the thought is bad....if one would say "you do that i will have to kill you.....just a joke, came from a thought....another stand by and gasp, in horror at such a thought...this has sent a negative impulse straight to the mind of the one that said it....BAD....now each time this happen, it become more a reality to the BAD person that they are EVIL, and so naturally they wish not to be, and try to change, but this would make them an enemy of their own damn mind....just thoughts but my god somebody has to think perhaps the same is true, and it only matters as becuase the power of belief in something is so strong that it make everything we see in front of us....it is man that has made all we see and it all came from our minds...i have not found these things to ever have been shaped in any way in any literature, the proposal to believe that humanity just remove the knowledge of good and evil from our minds, and that at this stage if we are aware to do so, that we can ****ing change the world, and then our goal would be all to help one another do to this, as is believe me is not easy, but it does not take long, as we within each have will, and make very simple use of it.....i have worked with many kids that were so violent they hated all and would not listen to anyone, and are like amazing creatures when they are told this, and they love to hear it, and will chase you down and call you a friend when they have no other, and go around totally loving people that they thought they hated.....as this make them be able to believe in themself......certainly all can see it is our kids that make tomarrow, and even every day are killing one another all the more......we can do something about it and truly the only reason i am here....problem solving together, as one, as a great nation, as one world where we can make no pain or bad to exist....eagles new album.....jon fogarty's new album.......paul mccartneys new album.......jon mayors new album.....hoobastanks new album......it is what they are all talking about......led zepplin, the stairway to heaven....they all have seen it, so when do the masses take the message they are sending and begin to believe it....dosen't seem it could happen until all begin to talk about it, and i for one dont think it will take world war three to make people care about more than just their own individual universe, but rather a good reason and logic of why, how, when and where we went wrong to do it.....at our thoughts......any thoughts from another to share are obviously as treasures to me

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