Topic: Obama and gang on not pulling troops
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Thu 02/28/08 06:20 PM
http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=092707_hillary_clinton_barack_obama_john_edwards_debate_msnbc_new_hampshire.htm


and there changing what exactly when it comes to the Iraq question?

Best Syndication) The MSNBC Democratic debates were held Wednesday at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire (See video Below). All three front runners, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Barack Obama, answered questions posed by Tim Russert. Although Obama said he was going to try to get the troops out of Iraq before the end of President Bush’s term, all three frontrunners refused to say they would get them all out by the end of their first term.

The war in Iraq and health care are the two biggest issues facing the candidates this election season. Taking a swipe at Hillary, Edwards said “I heard Senator Clinton say on Sunday that she wants to continue combat missions on Iraq. To me that's a continuation of the war.”

Obama said that we should be “as careful getting out (of Iraq) as we were careless getting in”. He said, as President, he would pull one or two brigades out per month and the “only troops that would remain would be the troops that would have to protect US bases and US civilians, as well as to engage in counter-terrorism activities in Iraq.”

When asked by Tim Russert whether there would be any troops in Iraq at the end of his first term as President, Obama said “I think it is hard to project four years from now.” Interestingly he did not commit to pulling the troops out if he were President, but insists on doing it while Bush was President.

Russert asked the same question to Hillary. “It is my goal to have the troops out by the end of my first term. But I agree with Barack, it is very difficult to know what we will be inheriting…. I think the Democrats have pushed extremely hard to change this President’s course in Iraq.”

“I can not make that commitment,” Edwards said. “I can tell you what I would do as President. When I am sworn into office in January 2009, if there are in fact, as General Patraeus suggests, a hundred thousand troops on the ground in Iraq, I will immediately draw down forty to fifty thousand troops… The problem is, we will maintain an embassy in Baghdad, and the embassy has to be protected.”

Just_Say_When's photo
Thu 02/28/08 06:23 PM
It's easy to say when your trying to win an election that you're gonna pull out troops...I prefer the honesty....and no one in their right mind would believe that promise anyway.

armydoc4u's photo
Thu 02/28/08 06:27 PM
And yet demanding that they be pulled out before the next pres is sworn in is somehow being honest with regard to whats going on in the real world... yet theres tons of press with them demanding that they be pulled out NOW! and no committment to do it themselves. its double standards at its worse, transparent and pretentious.

Just_Say_When's photo
Thu 02/28/08 06:37 PM
Demanding Bush do it now is just to throw the focus on someone else. I wish Bush would just pull 'em out. But it's not gonna happen. And when someone else gets in there they may find it's not as easy to bat cleanup as they thought. I wouldn't make that kind of promise unless I knew for a fact it could be done. Could it be done?

armydoc4u's photo
Thu 02/28/08 06:45 PM
Im just a medic so my opinion should be regarded as conjecture at best.

But yeah, i dont see why we have to keep so many non essentials there anymore... a small ezaple would be the people like the cooks, hell we hired all kinds of civilians to do all that, so cooks dont really ave a job there anymore, there sitting around or pulling BS shifts on a gate that already has more people there than anyones knows what to do with.

So yeah, I think you could pull out 50 or so thousand and not even blink... the problem is the fear factor from that, will the insurgents get the news that it is the cooks that are leaving or will they think it is the combt troops and start back up on killing.

I could make that promise, their just sissies ad have always been noncommittal.

smo's photo
Fri 02/29/08 11:26 AM
I don't think the Iraqis want to fight among themselves as much as the bush gang says, that is why the need for roadside bombs(Israeli missiles so I heard). I think Obama will get those troops out pretty quick.

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Fri 02/29/08 11:31 AM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Fri 02/29/08 11:31 AM
I think Obama will get those troops out pretty quick.


why would you have to think what Obama will do....does he not have a plan that you can look up?...you're content to let him say a few words and then think it's all going to better when Obama's in charge...noway

smo's photo
Fri 02/29/08 06:47 PM

I think Obama will get those troops out pretty quick.


why would you have to think what Obama will do....does he not have a plan that you can look up?...you're content to let him say a few words and then think it's all going to better when Obama's in charge...noway


What difference does it make whether he says it or if he writes it down. Lots of peoples word is no good ,but lots of peoples signatures are no good either. There are no guarantees about hardly anything in life , even your guarantees on car tires and batteries are mostly tricky talk, when you study into them.