Read this, it is awesome and I hope that it happens.

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=21627&mode=threaded

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It works for me, but if it doesn't for you then just type Lakota, cecede into google and you will find it

Native american nations are sovereign nations anyway.why would they secede?I don't see them being successful.

yup.

Hey guys , this could be interesting before it is all over.It is like a ball game it is not over till it is over.The US is sticking its nose in to Kosovo,(possible new military base for US) and Serbia conflict. Remember Serbia was involved in World War 1 ,was it not? Russia , I guess considers that their territory, and has been warning the US. And I hear that Russia mentioned possibilities of coming over here and make sure that the Lakota Sioux nations were free and not interfered with. I guess that the Russians feel that would be an equal comparison. I think this whole thing is getting more serious than people tend to realize. I hear there is a possibility that the Lakota Sioux might be recognized by other nations already as soverigns).Keep in mind we are talking a lot of territory, parts of 5 states, North Dakota,South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming ,and Montana. I think we should quit harassing and keep our nose out of other countries affairs, and keep our treaties with the Lakotas, I think the whole world is on to us, that our word is not much good. It is time to correct that problem and start being truthful and trustworthy.

^^^...congrats...not one insult towards the Jewish people in your post...miracles will never cease...

that is a forum page

not sure where any real article is

does say a newspaper writer wrote it tho

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Movement


In December 2007, a delegation of Lakota Sioux, including Russell Means, delivered to the U.S. State Department a declaration of secession from the United States to the U.S. State Department. Citing many broken treaties by the U.S. government in the past, and the loss of vast amounts of territory originally awarded in those treaties, the group announced its intentions to form a separate nation within the U.S.
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Same article as Original post on Rapid City Journal page.

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2007/12/21/news/local/doc476a99630633e335271152.txt
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Then there is the Lakota (Lakotah) Homepage

http://www.republicoflakotah.com/





If one reads the treaties it seems that the US government painted itself into a corner by always referring to whatever Native group a treaty was with as a 'nation'.
After the unilateral declaration of independence of Kosovo, recognized by several nations including the United States, this could be interesting.


Note: The Cherokee Nation already has a Constitution.

the reason the US called them nations is that's what they called themselves.Here Native people are sovereign nations and not subject to US law so whats the difference?

No difference actually except that currently they fall under the Department of Indian Affairs and as such are subject to a Federal government agency.
But wording in treaties as in business contracts means everything. It is that wording which is being taken advantage of now.


btw is this how people normally think of Nations?

Jackson's attitude toward Native Americans was paternalistic and patronizing -- he described them as children in need of guidance. and believed the removal policy was beneficial to the Indians.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2959.html

This as treaties leading to 'Trail of Tears' were being started.

Thanks for clearing up my confusion.

Russell Means doesn't represent all Lakota.

A lot of them just think he's an a-hole.

They'll come back to the union once the government cheese and booze runs out.

anymore stereotypes of Natives you'd like to throw out there?

No. I grew up in South Dakota and know all about AIM and how they came to Sioux Falls (my town) back in the 70s. They smashed out all the windows of the courthouse and caused millions of dollars damage.

Russell Means and AIM did not help the Native Americans in South Dakota with their terrorist tactics, in fact, made non-Natives even more suspicious of them.

If you do not exercise your rights and insist on them,and protect them, you will lose them.

I guess the native Americans did not have good immigration policies, and that led to their problems.

Hardly anything surprizes me these days...Things just get crazier & crazier...

The Eastern Band of Cherokees are still pure, own their own land, (their original homeland, and are very segregated. Even to the point that they have seperated theirselves from those in Oklahoma, due to mixing of the Race.

They are not governed by the State of NC. Only the FBI and Cherokee Police have jurisdiction on their land.
They can own land and homes, but cannot sale to anyone other than another Eastern Cherokee.

They owe this all to resistance by a small group of men led by Tsali who refused to leave on the Trail of Tears and fought against the US Gov.

Tsali gave up his life, he was never captured, in exchange for the land they originated from. Since then they have bought more and are the only Federally recognized Indian Nation from NY to Florida!

If that isnt a Nation what is?