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i think michelle obama appears unproffessional in comparison to other candidates whose spouses who happen to be ex presidents
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i think michelle obama appears unproffessional in comparison to other candidates whose spouses who happen to be ex presidents I agree...although I think his overzealousness will hurt her presidency should she get it. He likes the sportlight and I find it hard to believe that he can willingly take a backseat. |
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i think michelle obama appears unproffessional in comparison to other candidates whose spouses who happen to be ex presidents I agree...although I think his overzealousness will hurt her presidency should she get it. He likes the sportlight and I find it hard to believe that he can willingly take a backseat. Well from what I understand, The clinton Campaign is pretty much finished, and i think shes got 2 much pride 2 settle for being a vice president (if asked) |
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Lindyy: To me, she has made too many remarks referring to race. The whole primary presidential campaign on the democrat side has been focused on race and sexual gender. Is that what being the President of the USA is all about to them? Guess so. That is all you hear. It is a shame, disgrace rather, that Mrs. Obama is JUST NOW proud to be an American. 
And the racist remark she made: "Obama's wife rose to his defense over Bill Clinton's "fairy tale" comment. Michelle Obama said some blacks might be skeptical that white America will elect her husband, but advised them to look to his win in Iowa. "Ain't no black people in Iowa," So, now we are "White America"? Whoa, she needs to keep her terminology 'in check.' and "Ain't no black people in Iowa." AS FOR ME, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. I did not have to wait until someone from my Swedish, Irish or French ancestry did something special to be proud to be an American. LAURA BUSH - No female will ever surpass her in wisdom, intellect,gracefulness and elegance. She is the epitome of womanhood. Has anyone ever watched her being interviewed? She keeps herself totally composed, and racist and sexual remarks never flow from her mouth. I have yet to hear her ever criticize anyone, and that woman has had to endure so many hateful remarks about her husband, it is absolutely disgusting of this country to even let anyone degrade our President the way President Bush has been, yet First Lady Laura Bush remains composed and rational. Just look at the remarks on this thread alone. I wonder where the INTELLECT of some people in this country has disappeared to. I for one care about who is the First Lady, she represents the women of the USA (or at least she is supposed to, and not just a certain race.) Lindyy 
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The bottom line is that Mrs. Obama is a racist, and she will creat division in the country if her husband is elected. We have enough race problems without her adding to the mix.
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The bottom line is that Mrs. Obama is a racist, and she will creat division in the country if her husband is elected. We have enough race problems without her adding to the mix. What speculative BS;^] |
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The bottom line is that Mrs. Obama is a racist, and she will creat division in the country if her husband is elected. We have enough race problems without her adding to the mix. What speculative BS;^] turtlepoet78....... If Mrs. Obama were not from Princeton and Harvard, and if her remarks had not been in two prepared speeches, yes I would say that I am suppositioning and perhaps BSing. However, this is an educated woman who is very articulate and knows exactly what she is saying. Mrs. Obama is playing the race card, and the terrible thing about doing so is that it isn't necessary. Her husband has the the momento and the votes to propel him into the nomination. |
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The bottom line is that Mrs. Obama is a racist, and she will creat division in the country if her husband is elected. We have enough race problems without her adding to the mix. What speculative BS;^] turtlepoet78....... If Mrs. Obama were not from Princeton and Harvard, and if her remarks had not been in two prepared speeches, yes I would say that I am suppositioning and perhaps BSing. However, this is an educated woman who is very articulate and knows exactly what she is saying. Mrs. Obama is playing the race card, and the terrible thing about doing so is that it isn't necessary. Her husband has the the momento and the votes to propel him into the nomination. She's racsist because she's proud that we live in a day where a black man could become the presidant? I must be racist too 'cause I feel the same way;^] |
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The bottom line is that Mrs. Obama is a racist, and she will creat division in the country if her husband is elected. We have enough race problems without her adding to the mix. What speculative BS;^] turtlepoet78....... If Mrs. Obama were not from Princeton and Harvard, and if her remarks had not been in two prepared speeches, yes I would say that I am suppositioning and perhaps BSing. However, this is an educated woman who is very articulate and knows exactly what she is saying. Mrs. Obama is playing the race card, and the terrible thing about doing so is that it isn't necessary. Her husband has the the momento and the votes to propel him into the nomination. She's racsist because she's proud that we live in a day where a black man could become the presidant? I must be racist too 'cause I feel the same way;^] turtlepoet72...... Mrs. Obama is racist because she has never been proud of America in her entire adult life until her husband became a candidate for the office of the presidency. If that isn't a racist statement, then why is it all over the cable news, the regular TV, the newspapers, the magazines, the internet, and why are we discussing it. Think about that. Well, I have got to go .... have lots to do. Once again, think about it. Incidentally, don't be so defensive. Obviously you are for Obama, I have nothing against him, just his racist wife. |
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Edited by
Turtlepoet78
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Thu 02/21/08 02:03 PM
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The bottom line is that Mrs. Obama is a racist, and she will creat division in the country if her husband is elected. We have enough race problems without her adding to the mix. What speculative BS;^] Again you take her quote of context, yeah she worded it wrong but you're the one playing the race card, not her;^] turtlepoet78....... If Mrs. Obama were not from Princeton and Harvard, and if her remarks had not been in two prepared speeches, yes I would say that I am suppositioning and perhaps BSing. However, this is an educated woman who is very articulate and knows exactly what she is saying. Mrs. Obama is playing the race card, and the terrible thing about doing so is that it isn't necessary. Her husband has the the momento and the votes to propel him into the nomination. She's racsist because she's proud that we live in a day where a black man could become the presidant? I must be racist too 'cause I feel the same way;^] turtlepoet72...... Mrs. Obama is racist because she has never been proud of America in her entire adult life until her husband became a candidate for the office of the presidency. If that isn't a racist statement, then why is it all over the cable news, the regular TV, the newspapers, the magazines, the internet, and why are we discussing it. Think about that. Well, I have got to go .... have lots to do. Once again, think about it. Incidentally, don't be so defensive. Obviously you are for Obama, I have nothing against him, just his racist wife. Again you take her quote of context, yeah she worded it wrong but you're the one playing the race card, not her;^] |
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John McCain: I don't "really understand economics". 
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Traditionally, the basic definition of a liberal was someone who promoted change, while a conservative was one to preserve the status quo
the definition of a liberal is more goverment, more social programs and higher taxes...and that's what Obama is promising so I don't know what's new about that... |
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Edited by
Turtlepoet78
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Thu 02/21/08 02:57 PM
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Traditionally, the basic definition of a liberal was someone who promoted change, while a conservative was one to preserve the status quo
the definition of a liberal is more goverment, more social programs and higher taxes...and that's what Obama is promising so I don't know what's new about that... Actualy the origins of "liberal" are people who believe in policies which liberate. The first presidant democrat, Andrew Jackson, was not a liberal, but Ben Franklin was;^] |
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John McCain: I don't "really understand economics".
do you have a problem with McCain being honest?....I bet he's already got someone in mind to handle that when he gets elected.... 
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Traditionally, the basic definition of a liberal was someone who promoted change, while a conservative was one to preserve the status quo
the definition of a liberal is more goverment, more social programs and higher taxes...and that's what Obama is promising so I don't know what's new about that... Actualy the origins of "liberal" are people who believe in policies which liberate. The first presidant democrat, Andrew Jackson, was not a liberal;^] I said nothing of democrats or republicans in my statement. The definition of both has drastically changed over time. I spoke only of liberals being considered those pushing for change. To me, "liberating" is a form of change. JMO. Nrthn ynke - you are right he won't be bringing a change to how democrats think. To me, his change is in his pragmatic approach to leading, not his policies. Again, JMO. |
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I was referring to nrthn_ynkee, but you're right they have changed, conservatives are supposed to be those who conserve (which most claim to do but don't);^]
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whoops. my bad. carry on good sir.
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whoops. my bad. carry on good sir. lol.. It's all good, I just brought up the democrat thing as a random fact. I get pretty bad with that sometimes..lol;^] |
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Nrthn ynke - you are right he won't be bringing a change to how democrats think. To me, his change is in his pragmatic approach to leading, not his policies. Again, JMO.
yup Obama is sure pragmatic...he so far left I think his middle name is Carl... "As a state senator, Obama has been no defender of the unalienable right to life. he twice voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions. In April 2002, he voted against a bill to protect babies born alive after a failed abortion procedure. A similar federal law passed later that year. In 1997, Obama twice voted "present" on an Illinois partial-birth abortion ban. he absented himself from a third vote on the measure. In 2001, he voted "present" on a bill to notify parents when their minor children seek an abortion. he also voted against a cloning ban in 2000, although he voted for it in 2001. In 1999, Obama voted against requiring school boards to put Internet pornography filters on school computers meant for students' use. In 2001, he voted "present" on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 10 ,0 000 feet of schools and churches. In 2003, he voted in the Health and Human Services Committee for a bill requiring "age appropriate" sex-education for students in kindergarten through fifth grade. Despite his talk of promoting reading among inner-city youth, Obama has repeatedly opposed bills designed to promote discipline in public schools. In 2001, he twice voted "no" on a bill to let school districts require unruly students to complete suspensions before they can be shuffled into a new school district. he voted "present" on an almost unanimously passed bill requiring adult prosecution for students who fire guns on school grounds. Obama has been markedly soft on crime. In 2001, he voted against a bill that added extra penalties for crimes committed in furtherance of gang activities. he also voted against a bill making it a criminal offense for accused gang members, free on bond or on probation, to associate with known gang members. In 1999, he was the only state senator to vote against a bill prohibiting early prison release for criminal sexual abusers. Obama has a long record of supporting tax increases as well, although he rarely had the opportunity before Democrats took over the Illinois Senate in 2002. Despite Democratic rhetoric on the high cost of health care, Obama voted last May to hike the tax on insurance premiums. Although this tax is levied on corporations, it effectively raises rates for consumers. The same day, Obama voted to preserve Illinois' death tax, increase taxes on casino visitors, and charge new sales taxes on businesses." |
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Edited by
soxfan94
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Thu 02/21/08 03:33 PM
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I've established a personal moratorium on arguments about this, but I'm curious what the cite is for that source. Sounds like good hard facts surrounded by deceitful, biased rhetoric.
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