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Topic: democratic dilemma
soxfan94's photo
Tue 02/19/08 05:53 PM
The democratic primaries are shaping up to end with neither Obama nor Clinton receiving enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination. This would leave the decision hinging on the superdelegates, who are not bound by anything in who they choose.

Do you think they should place their vote for the candidate that they think will do the best in the general election, or put aside all personal thoughts and simply place their vote for whoever has the most votes from the public?

ladyblack67's photo
Tue 02/19/08 05:56 PM
I think they should place the votes on who is more likely win...or for the public votes

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 02/19/08 05:56 PM
Most votes from the public, it is democracy and therefore it should be respected as such. Albeit people don't usually tend to make the best decision, but can't step on those freedoms.

ladyblack67's photo
Tue 02/19/08 05:57 PM
I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!

soxfan94's photo
Tue 02/19/08 05:57 PM

I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!


How come?

chickayoshi's photo
Tue 02/19/08 05:59 PM
Well, the people didn't go out and vote for nothing. The superdelegates should go for public votes. Believe me...I'd say if they know which candidate to choose who is better qualified...I'd go for that. But we don't want the American people to get fussy. :tongue:

willy_cents's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:00 PM
it would seem to me that the person most likely to win would be the one who received the most votes. the problem with that is that perhaps the one who received the most votes did it in just a few states, while losing all the little ones. It is entirely feasible to win the popular vote, aka al Gore, and lose in the electoral college.therefor, they have to pick the one who is most "electable"

ladyblack67's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:00 PM


I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!


How come?

not a citizen!!!

ladyblack67's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:01 PM



I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!


How come?

not a citizen!!!

I'm an ALIEN!!!

ladyblack67's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:01 PM




I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!


How come?

not a citizen!!!

I'm an ALIEN!!!

(from Germany)

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:02 PM





I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!


How come?

not a citizen!!!

I'm an ALIEN!!!

(from Germany)


You came here from Germany?!?

Sorry off-topic, but couldn't help myself...

ladyblack67's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:02 PM






I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!


How come?

not a citizen!!!

I'm an ALIEN!!!

(from Germany)


You came here from Germany?!?

Sorry off-topic, but couldn't help myself...

YUP!!!

soxfan94's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:04 PM

it would seem to me that the person most likely to win would be the one who received the most votes. the problem with that is that perhaps the one who received the most votes did it in just a few states, while losing all the little ones. It is entirely feasible to win the popular vote, aka al Gore, and lose in the electoral college.therefor, they have to pick the one who is most "electable"


Traditionally that is the problem...but this year there is another twist, because of people's extremely strong feelings about the candidates. Electability will hinge very heavily on the independent vote, and independents have VERY strong feelings towards the democratic candidates, both clinton and obama.

chickayoshi's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:04 PM





I WOULD vote for Obama, but I cant vote!


How come?

not a citizen!!!

I'm an ALIEN!!!

(from Germany)


I have a friend from Germany...she can't vote either. :cry:

soxfan94's photo
Tue 02/19/08 06:23 PM
CNN just called Wisconsin for Obama!

happy happy smokin

adj4u's photo
Tue 02/19/08 09:21 PM
maybe they will vote for who pays the best


after all is that not the american way

mnhiker's photo
Tue 02/19/08 11:02 PM
I told a friend of mine last weekend that I'm not necessarily against voting for a woman for President, just not THAT woman (Hillary Clinton).

no photo
Wed 02/20/08 04:21 AM

The democratic primaries are shaping up to end with neither Obama nor Clinton receiving enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination. This would leave the decision hinging on the superdelegates, who are not bound by anything in who they choose.

Do you think they should place their vote for the candidate that they think will do the best in the general election, or put aside all personal thoughts and simply place their vote for whoever has the most votes from the public?


soxfan...... We are talking about politicians. The 795 super delegates are elected to that position. Therefore, these super delegates are going to do whatever is best for their political careers, and the country be damned.

no photo
Wed 02/20/08 06:19 AM
I think the biggest dilemma for the Democrats is that the two front runners are so diabolically opposed but almost even at the polls how is the two sides of the party ever going to unite when the dust settles..

soxfan94's photo
Wed 02/20/08 06:33 AM


The democratic primaries are shaping up to end with neither Obama nor Clinton receiving enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination. This would leave the decision hinging on the superdelegates, who are not bound by anything in who they choose.

Do you think they should place their vote for the candidate that they think will do the best in the general election, or put aside all personal thoughts and simply place their vote for whoever has the most votes from the public?


soxfan...... We are talking about politicians. The 795 super delegates are elected to that position. Therefore, these super delegates are going to do whatever is best for their political careers, and the country be damned.


Well I agree and, quite frankly, this means that they will do what's best for the people. One of the political analysts last night put it best when he said (I'm paraphrasing here:

"These superdelegates are politicians, not kamikazes. They will only be able to support the candidate of their own choice if the race stays close. If one candidate or the other begins to turn the balance significantly in their favor, or if there is a clamorous outcry from their constituents, they will effectively be forced to vote in line with the public due to re-election concerns."

And I agree with that. In fact, even if the race stays fairly close, I think they will wind up voting with their districts due to concern of an anti-democratic backlash.

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