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Topic: Explain God vs Jesus
justplaingerald's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:49 PM
Okay time to chime in:
I'm at odds with my spirituallity as far as it goes to understanding the realtionshipo between God and Jesus. Is it that God made himself a mortal for us to know as we are? Is it that he made himself human so that we can relate to Him. These are questions that I have yet to discover an answer to in my scripture reading/studies and would like to pose these questions for you. I am a curious person and my passage is new and developing, so if you have a moment to respond, Do.

justplaingerald's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:50 PM
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Derekkye's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:52 PM
There's a lot of mystery when it comes to things of God - when you search it out with your heart God will teach you accordingly

Shaden's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:55 PM
Im my opinion Father & Begotten Son.

yvory's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:56 PM

There's a lot of mystery when it comes to things of God - when you search it out with your heart God will teach you accordingly


strongly agree.

and don't take the bible's teaching literally. step out of the box and you'll find the answers right in front of you.

KennethP5206's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:58 PM

Okay time to chime in:
I'm at odds with my spirituallity as far as it goes to understanding the realtionshipo between God and Jesus. Is it that God made himself a mortal for us to know as we are? Is it that he made himself human so that we can relate to Him. These are questions that I have yet to discover an answer to in my scripture reading/studies and would like to pose these questions for you. I am a curious person and my passage is new and developing, so if you have a moment to respond, Do.


God had no beginning and will never have an end, he had no mother or father, he always has been, and always will be.

He created a perfect world and gave man free will and a mind of his own. He had hoped that man would choose to worship him and him only would he serve, but then man sinned against God.

So then he had to send his mortal son Jesus into the world to die for all mans sins that that man could still be able to serve God in Heaven

yvory's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:00 PM


Okay time to chime in:
I'm at odds with my spirituallity as far as it goes to understanding the realtionshipo between God and Jesus. Is it that God made himself a mortal for us to know as we are? Is it that he made himself human so that we can relate to Him. These are questions that I have yet to discover an answer to in my scripture reading/studies and would like to pose these questions for you. I am a curious person and my passage is new and developing, so if you have a moment to respond, Do.


God had no beginning and will never have an end, he had no mother or father, he always has been, and always will be.

He created a perfect world and gave man free will and a mind of his own. He had hoped that man would choose to worship him and him only would he serve, but then man sinned against God.

So then he had to send his mortal son Jesus into the world to die for all mans sins that that man could still be able to serve God in Heaven




you really put a lot of thought in this! i'm learning too!

thanks!

ZPicante's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:00 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Thu 02/14/08 10:02 PM
justplaingerald,

I'm sure you've heard of the concept of the "Trinity" (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit): One God, three persons.

Yes, it's a confusing thing, but the Bible clearly expresses the Oneness of God--that God is not three gods, but One God, and the Father, Son, and Spirit are all equally God.

Like an egg has a yolk, a white, and a shell; all equally "egg," yet with distinguishable parts--for a slipshod example. =)

Brat46550's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:01 PM
God is the Father Jesus the Son

KennethP5206's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:05 PM

justplaingerald,

I'm sure you've heard of the concept of the "Trinity" (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit): One God, three persons.

Yes, it's a confusing thing, but the Bible clearly expresses the Oneness of God--that God is not three gods, but One God, and the Father, Son, and Spirit are all equally God.

Like an egg has a yolk, a white, and a shell; all equally "egg," for a slipshod example. =)


That is not so
(1)For when Jesus was being baptised in the river Jordan, (2)he saw the holy spirit ascending upon him like a dove and (3) they heard the voice of God saying "this is my son in whom I am well pleased".

So they are three seperate beings, the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit

KennethP5206's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:06 PM



Okay time to chime in:
I'm at odds with my spirituallity as far as it goes to understanding the realtionshipo between God and Jesus. Is it that God made himself a mortal for us to know as we are? Is it that he made himself human so that we can relate to Him. These are questions that I have yet to discover an answer to in my scripture reading/studies and would like to pose these questions for you. I am a curious person and my passage is new and developing, so if you have a moment to respond, Do.


God had no beginning and will never have an end, he had no mother or father, he always has been, and always will be.

He created a perfect world and gave man free will and a mind of his own. He had hoped that man would choose to worship him and him only would he serve, but then man sinned against God.

So then he had to send his mortal son Jesus into the world to die for all mans sins that that man could still be able to serve God in Heaven




you really put a lot of thought in this! i'm learning too!

thanks!


Your welcome thank you

ZPicante's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:08 PM


justplaingerald,

I'm sure you've heard of the concept of the "Trinity" (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit): One God, three persons.

Yes, it's a confusing thing, but the Bible clearly expresses the Oneness of God--that God is not three gods, but One God, and the Father, Son, and Spirit are all equally God.

Like an egg has a yolk, a white, and a shell; all equally "egg," for a slipshod example. =)


That is not so
(1)For when Jesus was being baptised in the river Jordan, (2)he saw the holy spirit ascending upon him like a dove and (3) they heard the voice of God saying "this is my son in whom I am well pleased".

So they are three seperate beings, the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit
Well, yes. They are distinguishable and can interact with each other, but all equally God.

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:09 PM

Okay time to chime in:
I'm at odds with my spirituallity as far as it goes to understanding the realtionshipo between God and Jesus. Is it that God made himself a mortal for us to know as we are? Is it that he made himself human so that we can relate to Him. These are questions that I have yet to discover an answer to in my scripture reading/studies and would like to pose these questions for you. I am a curious person and my passage is new and developing, so if you have a moment to respond, Do.


I've asked that question for over 40 years and haven't found an answer that made any sense yet.

And yes, I EVEN asked GOD!

There was never an answer. ohwell

no photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:10 PM
God and Jesus have always existed. Just like you and me, God and Jesus have a spirit. But they don't each have their own spirit, they share one, which is the Holy Spirit. Jesus and God are joined by the Holy Spirit; three beings, but one God.

Here is a portion of the Athanasian creed, which discusses this subject very eloquently.

We worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost; but the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal. The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten; the Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten; the Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son, neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.


God determined that any act of going against his will would be punished by death. There are two kinds of death, physical and spiritual, all sinners are in danger of both. Because God knew mankind was weak and easily tempted, God offered Jesus as a sacrifice. Jesus literally died in the place of each and every person who is saved. But because Jesus had never commited a sin, Jesus didn't die spiritual. Jesus resurrected himself and returned to his place next to the father. Salvation and God's grace means that we will each die a physical death, just like Jesus, but we are saved from spiritual death.

A very deep subject in Christianity is Christology. Christology is the study of Jesus throughout the Old and New Testament. I can't do to subject justice, but you can take free courses here: http://www.blbi.org/

I really didn't do your question justice, but there is so much to this subject. It's the heart of the Gospel and it's what Christianity believes the whole old testament predicted. Maybe someone with more time will fill in the blanks. I really do think you should take that course, it's free and it's very informative.

KennethP5206's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:11 PM



justplaingerald,

I'm sure you've heard of the concept of the "Trinity" (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit): One God, three persons.

Yes, it's a confusing thing, but the Bible clearly expresses the Oneness of God--that God is not three gods, but One God, and the Father, Son, and Spirit are all equally God.

Like an egg has a yolk, a white, and a shell; all equally "egg," for a slipshod example. =)


That is not so
(1)For when Jesus was being baptised in the river Jordan, (2)he saw the holy spirit ascending upon him like a dove and (3) they heard the voice of God saying "this is my son in whom I am well pleased".

So they are three seperate beings, the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit
Well, yes. They are distinguishable and can interact with each other, but all equally God.


There is only one God

justplaingerald's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:15 PM


There's a lot of mystery when it comes to things of God - when you search it out with your heart God will teach you accordingly


strongly agree.

and don't take the bible's teaching literally. step out of the box and you'll find the answers right in front of you.

Oi! Ms Yvory: This is something that I have not found in my learnings. Taking the teachings of the Bible literally. Stepping out of the box as in a Worldly way? Well it does give you a frame work for a life in God. Not reading the entire Bible to find it, one shall let God direct you in your studies.
And YES with you, Zpicante and Derek I agree that God will show me the answer in time. This time is God's time and I shall wait with patience. But still as one or seperate? Thanks for your replies. Brat Your Right, but I still seek my answer. Ken, Great responce. But still I ask, Did God create Jesus as Himself for Us humans to relate to? For as a culture in a seemingly new time was it ahrd for the mortal race of Humans to relate to the Given Word. I'm good with my scripture readings and well. Dive deep into them everyday. As it is said in the Hebrew language "Bathos Ramos" DEEP WORD; Bathos (sp?) DEEP, Rama or Ramos "Word". This is my path and it will not waver. I just want some clarity and you all have placed more questions for my prayers. May the Lord Bless you all and give you Your Blessings.

ZPicante's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:16 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Thu 02/14/08 10:17 PM
(Kenneth) There is only one God


Yes. I know.

God the Father.
God the Son, Jesus (who makes clear declarations of this.)
God the Holy Spirit.

The gestalt, inseparable persons of God.

Confusing? Yes. Impossible for God to exist in such a fashion? No.

s1owhand's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:18 PM
God vs Jesus

Well, God is bigger and more experienced but Jesus is youthful and exhuberant. I say God wins in 8 rounds. God has the reach and is the sentimental favorite.

ZPicante's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:26 PM

God vs Jesus

Well, God is bigger and more experienced but Jesus is youthful and exhuberant. I say God wins in 8 rounds. God has the reach and is the sentimental favorite.
Sarcasm? ohwell

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:30 PM

God has kid out of wedlock


Jesus never had sex with a woman he just hung around with 12 fellas.



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