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Topic: Military draft if Republicans win?
Zapchaser's photo
Thu 01/31/08 10:54 AM
Common sense says a draft is not needed. But if one comes along you have two options. bigsmile Nobody wants a draft for the simple reason that you get a bunch of people who don't want to be there. Take note of our non-compulsory/volunteer military. Lets face it, not everyone has the courage of conviction to go beyond lip flapping.

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Thu 01/31/08 11:00 AM


The Democrats running for president want our country out of the war in Iraq, and both Hillary and Barack have said that they will make a timetable to bring our troops home from Iraq. Our Democratic controlled House and Senate have tried twice to pass a timetable to get our troops home from Iraq but Bush vetoed the bill both times. It is a fair and realistic question. We can not stay at war forever without a draft. Get real, people. The Democrats will bring our troops home from Iraq, not the Republicans.

Yup, just like they brought them home from Kosovo? huh Jot this one down in your notebook of things to believe: A Democrat will not bring the troops out of Iraq. I will remind you of this two years from now. Time table? If they REALLY have a timetable don't you think we would have heard it by now? It is akin to Castro promising a chicken in every pot. Politicians tell you what you want to hear but common sense needs to rule the day.


I am a huge liberal I would love to Kucinich be president. I think Hillary is a proud and noble woman. I also think Barak will be a great president. With all that being I said I want to warn all liberals that wars are hard to impossible to leave. LBJ had all these ideas for the "great society" and the war ate it all. I would just be careful talking about getting out of there fast. Make sure we leave the blame squarely with the lying republicans and Neo-cons, and just say we will do our best to clean up the huge world wide mess they have created.

Zapchaser's photo
Thu 01/31/08 11:08 AM



The Democrats running for president want our country out of the war in Iraq, and both Hillary and Barack have said that they will make a timetable to bring our troops home from Iraq. Our Democratic controlled House and Senate have tried twice to pass a timetable to get our troops home from Iraq but Bush vetoed the bill both times. It is a fair and realistic question. We can not stay at war forever without a draft. Get real, people. The Democrats will bring our troops home from Iraq, not the Republicans.

Yup, just like they brought them home from Kosovo? huh Jot this one down in your notebook of things to believe: A Democrat will not bring the troops out of Iraq. I will remind you of this two years from now. Time table? If they REALLY have a timetable don't you think we would have heard it by now? It is akin to Castro promising a chicken in every pot. Politicians tell you what you want to hear but common sense needs to rule the day.


I am a huge liberal I would love to Kucinich be president. I think Hillary is a proud and noble woman. I also think Barak will be a great president. With all that being I said I want to warn all liberals that wars are hard to impossible to leave. LBJ had all these ideas for the "great society" and the war ate it all. I would just be careful talking about getting out of there fast. Make sure we leave the blame squarely with the lying republicans and Neo-cons, and just say we will do our best to clean up the huge world wide mess they have created.
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I would love to see your dream become reality but who will you blame four years from now? Eight years? Do you even know what a neocon is? Are the democrats faultless?

Zapchaser's photo
Thu 01/31/08 11:23 AM
Neoconservatism is the political philosophy that emerged in the United States from the rejection of social liberalism and the New Left counter-culture of the 1960s. It influenced the Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and the George W. Bush presidential administrations, representing a re-alignment in American politics, and the defection of liberals to the right-hand side of the political spectrum.[1] One accomplishment was "to make criticism from the Right acceptable in the intellectual, artistic, and journalistic circles where conservatives had long been regarded with suspicion."[1] Neoconservatism emphasises foreign policy as paramount responsibility of government, seeing the need for the U.S. acting as the world's sole superpower as indispensable to establishing and maintaining global order.[2]

As a term, neoconservative first was used derisively by democratic socialist Michael Harrington to identify a group of people (who described themselves as liberals) as newly stimulated conservative ex-liberals. The idea that liberalism "no longer knew what it was talking about" is neoconservatism's central theme.[3]

The development of this conservatism is based on the work and thought of Irving Kristol, co-founder of Encounter magazine, and of its editor (1953–58),[4] Norman Podhoretz,[5] and others who described themselves as "neoconservatives" during the Cold War.

Prominent neoconservatives are associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard, and with foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).

The term 'Neoconservative' was originally used as a criticism against liberals that had politically 'moved to the right'

They were liberals? OMG! GFD! JFC! Holy sh*t! Whodathunk it? huh noway I feel your pain. bigsmile

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Thu 01/31/08 06:03 PM
Edited by Chazster on Thu 01/31/08 06:04 PM
Not if Ron Paul would win he is opposed to a draft.(not that there would be one anyway.) Too bad he isn't doing so hot in the poles. I read up on him today and most of his fews are right up my ally. I really like his pro state government.

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Thu 01/31/08 06:30 PM

Not if Ron Paul would win he is opposed to a draft.(not that there would be one anyway.) Too bad he isn't doing so hot in the poles. I read up on him today and most of his fews are right up my ally. I really like his pro state government.


That's not very likely to happen.
John McCain appears to be on a roll
and, I think, will be eventually
selected as the Republican nominee.


Chazster's photo
Thu 01/31/08 06:46 PM
Yea I know. Ron Pauls political believes are just too great. Like they say "if it seems too good to be true then it probably is".

toastedoranges's photo
Thu 01/31/08 06:53 PM

Yea I know. Ron Pauls political believes are just too great. Like they say "if it seems too good to be true then it probably is".


i think his problem is what he believes in. you can't win political office these days without being in someone's pocket at least in some minor way.

Chazster's photo
Thu 01/31/08 07:04 PM
Yea I know, thats whats sad.

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 01/31/08 10:39 PM

Neoconservatism is the political philosophy that emerged in the United States from the rejection of social liberalism and the New Left counter-culture of the 1960s. It influenced the Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and the George W. Bush presidential administrations, representing a re-alignment in American politics, and the defection of liberals to the right-hand side of the political spectrum.[1] One accomplishment was "to make criticism from the Right acceptable in the intellectual, artistic, and journalistic circles where conservatives had long been regarded with suspicion."[1] Neoconservatism emphasises foreign policy as paramount responsibility of government, seeing the need for the U.S. acting as the world's sole superpower as indispensable to establishing and maintaining global order.[2]

As a term, neoconservative first was used derisively by democratic socialist Michael Harrington to identify a group of people (who described themselves as liberals) as newly stimulated conservative ex-liberals. The idea that liberalism "no longer knew what it was talking about" is neoconservatism's central theme.[3]

The development of this conservatism is based on the work and thought of Irving Kristol, co-founder of Encounter magazine, and of its editor (1953–58),[4] Norman Podhoretz,[5] and others who described themselves as "neoconservatives" during the Cold War.

Prominent neoconservatives are associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard, and with foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).

The term 'Neoconservative' was originally used as a criticism against liberals that had politically 'moved to the right'

They were liberals? OMG! GFD! JFC! Holy sh*t! Whodathunk it? huh noway I feel your pain. bigsmile


1. No one who moves to the right is a liberal.

2. Definitions of words change with the times. It now refers to Chicken Hawks like (5 draft deferments)Cheney.

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