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Topic: If you're a Christian you don't have to.
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Sun 01/06/08 11:01 PM


John 9:16
Some of the Pharisees said, "This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath."
But others asked, "How can a sinner do such miraculous signs?" So they were divided.

There is another passage where Jesus chides the Pharisees about "What if one of you has an oxen fallen into a ditch. Do you not pull him out on the sabbath?" or something to that effect.

Yes, keep the sabbath as a matter of principle but remain practical about it. At least that's my interpretation of it.

I could probably be swayed by the "Old Testament/New Testament" argument too. Yeah, some of the legal-eese was tossed when Jesus was crucified. Numerous verses talk about us being "Dead to the Law" now.

As far as dividing people who claim to be "more gooder" than you.... screw 'em. :tongue: Who has time to waste on self-righteous twerps?


It is not about being "more gooder" is it about deception. People have been deceived about what God says, and what God expects from us. You can look at the arguments in any perspective you want. From my point of view, if I saw you drop your wallet, I would tell you. If people ask about the Sabbath which they have, then I would tell them the truth.

If you find any place in the Bible that says that we no longer need to keep the Sabbath, then I will never post again, and I will stop keeping it.

Art

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Sun 01/06/08 11:29 PM
Edited by BillingsDreamer on Sun 01/06/08 11:31 PM

Revo,
You do a fine job representing yourself and thank-you for sharing YOUR words on the topic.

I'm wondering, how many Christian doctrines actually CHANGED? They surely must have, to allow so many Christians, not only to work on Sunday, but to spend the whole day 'shopping' (after church)which requires that OTHER Christians work that day, just to serve them?????


Redykeulouse, it certainly was as fine job Revo did.

Yours is such an interesting question. I wish there was a way to convey to everyone of this forum exactly how much has really changed. If you don't mind, I would like to list just a few of them.

1. God's Holy days to Pagan holidays
2. The wage of sin is death to the soul is immortal
3. No idols to statues of Mary and Jesus
4. The Kingdom of God on earth to we live forever in heaven
5. Hell is the grave to Dante's inferno--an ever burning fire
6. Not taking God's name in vain to calling priests holy Father
7. Keeping the ten commandments to the law was done away
8. God's purpose is to glorify man to our purpose is to glorify God
9. Sin is breaking God's law to sin is separation from God
10. No other Gods to acceptance of Santa, Ishtar, and Samhain
11. Repentance from dead works to only believe in Jesus required
12. Turn the other cheek to killing those who believe different
13. A gospel of a kingdom on earth, to a gospel of prosperity
14. God is a family to God is a trinity

The Scriptures speak of there being a very real devil who rules this world. It says he has deceived the entire world. I know that people would object to this, and say it is radical. However, that is part of the deception. People don't know they are deceived.

But, just look at our world. We seek peace by means of war. We protect criminals not the victims. We care more about a tree or animal than a human embryo. We treat symptoms not the disease. The justice system is not just. We are driven by greed and lust and ego. Look at the news this week and ask this question, "is it possible the world is deceived."

Just look at my little list of the changes that are the direct opposite to what the Bible teaches. I tell you the truth after nearly 40 years of study, I am convinced that there is nothing untouched. All has been perverted in one way or another. I know it is hard to believe, but in all honesty, you should be able to relate to this. It is why the atheists mock believers so much. I don't blame them. There is so much that is simply foolishness and contradiction in the modern "Christian" belief.

Thanks for the question though. I just wish I could somehow make the answer clear enough and interesting enough for people to read it.

Art

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Sun 01/06/08 11:53 PM

Most people have no clue what life was really like only a few centuries ago. Religious beliefs ruled the world largely up until the time of Isaac Newton (1642-1727), and even then they were slow to change. In fact it they didn’t change until much later

Historians don’t give credit to true enlightenment (the realization that the world isn’t really ruled by superstitions) until the French Revolution which occurred after Newton. And that was only the beginning of thing.

Religion has been in serious declined for the last 3 centuries, and that decline has been accelerating over that time. In the past century alone religion has taken a severe nose dive with respect to people actually believing in it in a formal way. And rightfully so!

Consider This,..

Old superstitions are out the window. Sure people still cling to the idea of a God, but they most certainly don’t think like people of old did. No way. It’s utterly impossible for them to think like that today.

Louis Pasture didn’t make his discoveries until the 1800’s! Prior to that people still believed that flies miraculously emerged from rotten meat. They had no clue that flies laid eggs and that sort of thing. I’m this is how ignorant the world was. People genuinely believed in miracles because they believed the world to be full of miracles every moment of every day! They had no clue what disease was, etc. They were truly ignorant and completely dependent on a believe in superstition. Sure there were those who didn’t believe this way, people like Copernicus, Galileo, Gregor Mendel, and many other scientists and philosophers always existed throughout all of history. But I’m talking about the masses in general. People in general attributed everything to gods, spirits, magic, and demons. This was the belief of how the everyday world actually worked!

People don’t believe that now. People today realize that there are rational understandable explanations for these things and that we can even control them to a large degree. We have eradicated many diseases that were commonplace. And we have good ideas of what causes others even if we haven’t yet been able to find ways to prevent or cure them yet. I mean, even if we can’t stop something like AIDS we still understand that it’s a virus. It’s like a train coming at you on the tracks. Just because you know what it is doesn’t mean that you are going to be able to stop it by sticking out your foot in front of it. But just because you can’t stop it doesn’t mean that you don’t understand what it is.

The point is that years ago (and not that long ago) people genuinely didn’t understand anything about how the world works.

In less than 300 years they figured it out. And in less than 50 years they used that knowledge to build all manner of machines that perform “miracles” every single day! We don’t think of them as miracles simply because we understand how they work now.

My point it, that superstition is out. Intelligent understanding is in. And we aren’t going to go back to our old ways. At the rate that religion is deteriorating it will never make it through this millennium. It’s almost dead coming into the millennium.

People might argue that “Christianity” still holds a large part of the population!!!

But that’s a farce. All that means is that if you take a survey most people will label themselves “Christian”, but in truth they don’t believe in the original religion one iota. Maybe they still hold out hope in a God and an everlasting life. But do they really believe in the religious doctrine in detail? No way!

It’s just a shadow of an ancient manmade God.

And most people realize it, they're just having a hard time admitting it even to themselves. Most of them have "discarded" the organized religion and just claim a belief and alliance with Jesus. It's become like Linus' Security Blanket. They refuse to let go of it, but don't really use it.


This is very well written. And I believe it is absolutely true! However, there is a point that Abra does not comprehend and it is this;

There was a time even before that of which he speaks. There was a time before the superstition. There was a time before the ignorance. For example, God told man the world was round before the superstition. He told man that the earth was hung on nothing. He told us to wash if we touch anything dead. He told us what animals were good for food and which to avoid before we knew about trichinosis.

There was a time when man did not have the technology that he has today, but a time when he knew the truth. However, that time when there was a true religion was taken over by a false religion, the ancient Mysteries, pretending to be Christian, and it was they who brought on the age of superstition, darkness, murder, and sickness and disease.

Here is what you don't know abra. You think that we have entered into some sort of golden age by our knowledge. You are dead wrong. We have learned how to harness enormous power technologically, but we are no different from those who perpetrated the superstition in the past. We don't know how to use that power. As a result, we will use it to destroy human life on a massive scale. We are not enlightened.

The scriptures speak of those very empires that came and oppressed. They speak of this continuing, and all has been fulfilled up to this point. Now there is one last empire to come, and it will use this power we have created to destroy and harm. Here is what the Scriptures state:

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

This is the time we live in. Man has the atom and hydrogen bombs but he does not have the wisdom or heart to know how to use this power he has discovered.

That wisdom is something we don't have inherent in us. It must come from the God that you deny exists. The world is not in such a mess because we followed the bible, it is in a mess because we, and especially the religious community, have not followed it.

Those religious leaders in the past have nothing to do with the God of the Bible. They were and are the unwitting tools of God's enemy.

You said it well, but in my mind, you draw the wrong conclusion from it.

Art

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Mon 01/07/08 03:19 AM
As a Methodist, we were raised that Sunday is the Sabbath Day and it's supposed to be a day of rest. However, what others do is their business, of course.

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Mon 01/07/08 07:17 PM
I have read all the posts again. Thanks Art for giving me the idea to start this topic, I've found it very interesting.

Art - while you have much to say, this is what I found the most intersting:
I wish there was a way to convey to everyone of this forum exactly how much has really changed. If you don't mind, I would like to list just a few of them.

1. God's Holy days to Pagan holidays
2. The wage of sin is death to the soul is immortal
3. No idols to statues of Mary and Jesus
4. The Kingdom of God on earth to we live forever in heaven
5. Hell is the grave to Dante's inferno--an ever burning fire
6. Not taking God's name in vain to calling priests holy Father
7. Keeping the ten commandments to the law was done away
8. God's purpose is to glorify man to our purpose is to glorify God
9. Sin is breaking God's law to sin is separation from God
10. No other Gods to acceptance of Santa, Ishtar, and Samhain
11. Repentance from dead works to only believe in Jesus required
12. Turn the other cheek to killing those who believe different
13. A gospel of a kingdom on earth, to a gospel of prosperity
14. God is a family to God is a trinity


These (and many other examples) are the reason that there is so much ambivalence extended toward those Christians who support specific 'doctrine'.

Art, your posts specifically explain how very important the Sabboth really is to the 'basics' of Christianity. This was exactly what I was hoping to have come out in this thread.

But to be honest I was rather hoping others would see, their own hypocracy, by explaining the importance of the Sabbath and relating it to their own lives.

Sometimes it's necessary to hold a mirror in front of a speaker, and hope they will learn from the experience. In this case, to judge themselves according to their own beliefs and stop judging others who are not bound by those beliefs.

I am sentimental when it comes to 'traditions'. I feel tradition is important to each of us, individually and socially, as it connects us with the past, provides community in the present and extends our arms into the future. For that reason I'm sad that tradition has not been maintained in the Christian community. To be totally sincere, however, if the (Christian) community continues to believe they are entitled to pass judgment on others to the point of creating bias accepting prejudical actions, and dictating sociatal laws in accordance with their doctrine, than their is a tradition in need of breaking.

With the information you have provided, Art, it seems that Christians, themselves, can be credited with the unraveling of that which they seek to extoll to others.

There is nothing sacred in a tradition of change and nothing of value to extend into the future.


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Mon 01/07/08 07:21 PM
If you twist enough and interpret the way you want to you can find any "truth" you're looking for

Good luck with that.


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Mon 01/07/08 07:43 PM
Congregations of hypocrisy is exactly where so much unrest to the community of Believers in God went wrong. Selfish wanting, and power in masses worked to the results of some. Forever changing the intended wisdom.
Lending to hysteria and separation.

Kat

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Tue 01/08/08 02:43 PM

These (and many other examples) are the reason that there is so much ambivalence extended toward those Christians who support specific 'doctrine'.

Art, your posts specifically explain how very important the Sabboth really is to the 'basics' of Christianity. This was exactly what I was hoping to have come out in this thread.

But to be honest I was rather hoping others would see, their own hypocracy, by explaining the importance of the Sabbath and relating it to their own lives.


But, people are not interested in the Sabbath generally. And, no one can see their own error.

Correct me if I am wrong, but my impression is that you would like to see professing Christianity exposed for their hypocrisy in order to justify not accepting the Bible, its God, and teachings.

Their mess does not invalidate the bible. It invalidates their belief about the Bible.

But, for me to not cry out? That won't happen. I can't stay on this forum forever. I have other work to do, but for me to not teach that we should respect and honor that book, and its God, it is unthinkable.

This is the entire message of the constitution of the United States of America. They wrote free speech into our law to insure that if someone had the truth, it could be spoken, and not repressed.

Further, I have never seen anyone condemn others here. It is the cry of those who oppose the Bible and the professing Christian world. For example, I have condemned the logic and arguments that some have had against the Bible and its God. But, no one is judging, meaning condemning others.

But, please realize, I mean take a look around. The atheists mock and ridicule the professing Christians. Do you think they have no hypocrisy? Do you think their desire to have no moral authority over them, so that in effect, they can do what ever they want is not its own hypocrisy?

We are all hypocrites. None of us live up to the standards we set for ourselves. Further, I believe that there is incredible hypocrisy among atheists. They contradict themselves, they make up scenarios to fit their beliefs. They manipulate history, and write entire books to discredit the Bible. But, they are driven, just like the professing Christian community to find reasons to justify what they believe, not necessarily to find out the truth.

Speaking of finding the truth, regarding people seeing their own hypocrisy. Our human nature blocks it. It is the defense mechanism. You do it, I do it, and we all do it.

Thus, "professing Christians" will NOT accept the Sabbath. They actually worship according to the ancient mystery religions. They don't know this, but if you tell them, they will become defensive and fight against it without really knowing. But, you can ask any knowledgeable witch. They will tell you that the professing Christian community worships their gods.


Sometimes it's necessary to hold a mirror in front of a speaker, and hope they will learn from the experience. In this case, to judge themselves according to their own beliefs and stop judging others who are not bound by those beliefs.


We all need that mirror, but we don't always want to look at it. I hope you understand that I do judge myself by my beliefs. I don't judge (condemn) others. However, they do judge us. You judge us. For example, you call us names like Hypocrites. You think you are superior because of their hypocrisy and don't see your own. You wanted this post to teach them the lesson you want them to learn.

Isn't this fun irony?


To be totally sincere, however, if the (Christian) community continues to believe they are entitled to pass judgment on others to the point of creating bias accepting prejudical actions, and dictating sociatal laws in accordance with their doctrine, than their is a tradition in need of breaking.


Does this mean that those who profess to believe in the Bible have no right to say that they believe homosexuality is wrong? Does it mean that they have no right to say that they believe abortion is wrong? Do they have no right to say and teach what they believe is true and right and good?

What would you do to a prophet of God for teaching the truth and condemning our society for its injustice, and lack of morality?
Does the prophet have no rights in our country any longer? I say this, because I believe that it is thinking like yours that will lead us to this exact spot. It is already a hate crime to quote certain parts of the Bible in Canada. Eventually, they will jail us for speaking what we believe to be true. It will be thinking like yours that causes this.

So, I think you have every right to profess that there is no God. But, I have a right to profess that there is. Further, while I think there is no evidence that God does not exist. You cannot prove that. I do have the evidence that He exists.

The fact of entropy and that everything is winding down requires something or someone to have wound it up.
The creation requires a creator
The perfect design of our universe requires a designer
Laws require a law giver
Life only comes from other life, there must be a life giver
There is fulfilled prophecy
There is answered prayer

So, it is not like we offer a belief in the God without some reason for such belief. That is no hypocrisy.


With the information you have provided, Art, it seems that Christians, themselves, can be credited with the unraveling of that which they seek to extoll to others.


Yes, I agree, they are unraveling what they believe they must preach to the world. And, ironically, they are doing that by the fact that they don't live what they preach. Sad, for me, but true.

It is reaching critical mass too. The Christian community is becoming a laughing stock on TV and movies. They are always pictured as kooks, and weirdos. Bill Mayer (sp?) is an example of where all this is leading.


There is nothing sacred in a tradition of change and nothing of value to extend into the future.


Yes, it would be so wonderful if we actually lived by what the book says, and had a tradition of sincerely living it. I believe that it would be so attractive that the vast majority of people would willingly seek to be a part of it.

After giving the commandments, God said:

Deu 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

It would be better than any of us could ever imagine.

However, in the scriptures, God says He will return at the end of a certain time, and then He will set up His kingdom on earth, headquartered at Jerusalem. As word of that Kingdom spreads, people will desire to be a part of it. As Zechariah writes about that future time:

Zec 8:21 And the inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying, Let us go speedily to pray before the LORD, and to seek the LORD of hosts: I will go also. Zec 8:22 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD. Zec 8:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

This future time is my hope for mankind.

As an aside, everyone is posting here, and no one on my Sabbath thread. It is disappointing to me. But, trust me, people, especially professing Christians, don't want to hear about what God actually says.

I would recommend it though. Try it someday, to read the Scriptures for what they say, and not what others teach that they say. It is eye opening.

Art

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Tue 01/08/08 03:22 PM

I'll take a day off anytime. Call me chribudajew if it keeps me in a warm toasty bed on a cold January morning.laugh

Jesus was not born on Dec. 25th. I guess if you believe in the sabbath, it does not matter when you keep it as long as you do, right? You may be alone, and find it hard to sell your HR department at work, but hey...

uh... you know christmas and the sabbath are 2 different things. huh

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Tue 01/08/08 06:24 PM
But, people are not interested in the Sabbath generally. And, no one can see their own error.


Considering your elaboration on the primary ‘importance’ of the Sabbath, nearly to excess, I find you quite generous in forgiving other Christians who are simply “not interested…generally”. However, you are quick enough to point out the faults of non-believers who make the error. Why bother, when Christians themselves, are not even interested?

Correct me if I am wrong, but my impression is that you would like to see professing Christianity exposed for their hypocrisy in order to justify not accepting the Bible, its God, and teachings.

You were correct, until AFTER the word hypocrisy. It is not for me to change the faith of others. If logic does not fit with doctrine I will not force it unless, or until, those beliefs interfere with the human rights of others. And currently they do, that is my justification for demonstrating hypocrisy.

Their mess does not invalidate the bible. It invalidates their belief about the Bible.


Their mess, was made through ‘interpretation’ of the same Bible you read. That means someone is in error, but no one wants to claim their wrong, not even you. So the mess is yours and theirs and has no business being interpreted in our laws by the highest bidder.

Further, I have never seen anyone condemn others here. It is the cry of those who oppose the Bible and the professing Christian world.
The atheists mock and ridicule the professing Christians. Do you think they have no hypocrisy? Do you think their desire to have no moral authority over them, so that in effect, they can do what ever they want is not its own hypocrisy?


I do not support open and reasonless ridicule. If you feel Christianity is persecuted by atheists, it might be more logical to attempt to understand why? Also, I might ask, is it only atheists who are offering such ridicule?

We are all hypocrites. None of us live up to the standards we set for ourselves. Further, I believe that there is incredible hypocrisy among atheists. They contradict themselves, they make up scenarios to fit their beliefs. They manipulate history, and write entire books to discredit the Bible. But, they are driven, just like the professing Christian community to find reasons to justify what they believe, not necessarily to find out the truth.


Oh my, that is a paragraph that reaks of a persecution complex. Actually I found it ironic that I could interchange your words “atheist & Christian” and hear another cry in the other ear. For some people the answer to ‘everything’ is God. For others, it is not an acceptable option. Either way, the answers one hears are often contradictory to the answers of the other. That is reason for discussion. That is why we need to attempt to allow others their beliefs and for those with beliefs to consider that they alone are bound by what they believe and can not bind others to those beliefs.

Thus, "professing Christians" will NOT accept the Sabbath. They actually worship according to the ancient mystery religions. They don't know this, but if you tell them, they will become defensive and fight against it without really knowing. But, you can ask any knowledgeable witch. They will tell you that the professing Christian community worships their gods.


So, Art, are those you describe in defiance of God? Should the laws of government be responsible for punishment of such high offenses? Who should be responsible to creating the law of the land, and PLEASE, what ‘doctrine’ would be best suited to take those laws from?

Do not say the Bible,it obviously needs a interpreter. What I want from you, is to know, of all the various ‘divisions’ within the Christian faith, who (what sect), in your opinion, subscribes to the most accurate and valid doctrine? Put your faith on line, and we will see from whence the ‘persecution’ comes!

We all need that mirror, but we don't always want to look at it. I hope you understand that I do judge myself by my beliefs. I don't judge (condemn) others.


So as you look into this mirror you find yourself without judgment of others. Or at the very least, if you do judge it is for your own purposes?

Your statement can not hold water unless your compassion and lack of condemnation are supportive to the plight of every person who is now, or might be in the future, subjected to oppression at the hands of OTHERS who would pass such judgment.

If your statement is valid, than I expect I should thank-you for your support of HR3685 (ENDA) and your ethical voice addressing the inequality of the marriage law, and of course, even though it failed, like the others, your generous support of the Matthew Shephard Act (hate crimes legislature). And I just know we can count on your true blue American ethics to support the coming argument to repeal ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t tell’ law.

What do you see in that mirror again?

However, they do judge us.(atheists) You judge us. For example, you call us names like Hypocrites. You think you are superior because of their hypocrisy and don't see your own. You wanted this post to teach them the lesson you want them to learn.


Excuse me, but this thought does not follow. You are the one who has shown the existence of hypocrisy. You have stated that ‘Everyone is subject to hypocrisy’, but in this quote you seem to think you are the only one capable of recognizing that. Sounds to me like a proclamation of superiority.

I have never made such a claim and I have had to subjugate myself when my words have been so in error. I have nothing to loose by my hypocrisy and much to gain in the knowledge that is shown me. It is doctrine and the people and hypocrisy surrounding doctrine who have much to loose.

My words:
To be totally sincere, however, if the (Christian) community continues to believe they are entitled to pass judgment on others to the point of creating bias accepting prejudical actions, and dictating sociatal laws in accordance with their doctrine, than theirs is a tradition in need of breaking.


Art quote
Does this mean that those who profess to believe in the Bible have no right to say that they believe homosexuality is wrong? Does it mean that they have no right to say that they believe abortion is wrong? Do they have no right to say and teach what they believe is true and right and good?


Art, they may say whatever they like. But if their words allow others to believe that bigotry and bias is an accepted judgment,and theirs to make, there will be those who will take action, out of that belief, causing harm and oppression to others.

If you accept the government that grants you the freedom to ‘say’ what you believe, than the least you can do is protect, from harm, those you are speaking out against.

You are so generous to simply wave off the fact that ‘others are simply not interested in the Sabbath, why not be so generous to other offenders of your list of sins.

Why do you believe that the government has the right be judge and punisher of only the sins you deem the most offensive?

Why not all the sins? PLEASE explain how this is NOT hypocrisy?

What would you do to a prophet of God for teaching the truth and condemning our society for its injustice, and lack of morality?
Does the prophet have no rights in our country any longer? I say this, because I believe that it is thinking like yours that will lead us to this exact spot. It is already a hate crime to quote certain parts of the Bible in Canada. Eventually, they will jail us for speaking what we believe to be true. It will be thinking like yours that causes this.


OH I SEE. Your attempts to continue to oppress a section of society, is because you ‘fear’ LOOSING, what you perceive to be, Christian control within your government.

Art, I am not like you. If I felt that this government, in any way, was attempting to restrict people from their religious exercise without ‘substantial’ cause, providing the least imposition, I promise you I would be there fighting for your right to continue to believe and exercise your beliefs in accordance to whatever doctrine moves you. (as long as it does not interfere with basic and civil rights of any others.

My quote
With the information you have provided, Art, it seems that Christians, themselves, can be credited with the unraveling of that which they seek to extoll to others.


Art quote
Yes, I agree, they are unraveling what they believe they must preach to the world. And, ironically, they are doing that by the fact that they don't live what they preach. Sad, for me, but true.

It is reaching critical mass too. The Christian community is becoming a laughing stock on TV and movies. They are always pictured as kooks, and weirdos. Bill Mayer (sp?) is an example of where all this is leading.


Well there you go, at least in part, here is an answer to your feelings of persecution. So why, sir, do you blame the atheists, when it is they who are battling so many fronts of hypocrisy?

My quote
There is nothing sacred in a tradition of change and nothing of value to extend into the future.


Art quote
Yes, it would be so wonderful if we actually lived by what the book says, and had a tradition of sincerely living it. I believe that it would be so attractive that the vast majority of people would willingly seek to be a part of it.


Art, perhaps you would have your wish, if the book were not so open to interpretation. But this tool, that is claimed infallible, has not had a good run. From the time that the written word, now called scripture, was used as proof for Christians, it has been open to any slant the powerful wanted to put on it.

Giving religion ‘freedom’, in this country, did not really help it along. It only provided further opportunity for interpretation, and a willingness of others to follow the charismatic nature of the speaker.

This has only served to make ‘some’ Christians unable to recognize other Christians as brothers in Christ. I do believe the persecution you perceive, and fear has includes a Christian source as well as atheist.

I would recommend it though. Try it someday, to read the Scriptures for what they say, and not what others teach that they say. It is eye opening.


I’m afraid, I will sound like so many others, but I must respond as they have. I have read scriptures and I have viewed it in light of many various doctrines.

Now I would like to recommend something to you!

Read your bible until you are blind, and then, sir, lift your head and look to the horizon and witness life as it is being lived today.

May you keep your peace and be well as you live it.

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Tue 01/08/08 09:20 PM
I also know from living in a farm community that Sabbath holds a different value for those communities and I really do believe that they enjoy the one day off considering the daily rigor they endure. They do not do nothing, of course, but it is a day of less work for the most part. Animals need care 24/7/365. It is not necessarily religious for all either.

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Wed 01/09/08 03:32 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Wed 01/09/08 03:32 PM
Everything you ever wanted to know about sabbath

This is why the sabbath is important.

Exod.16

1. [23] And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

2. [25] And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.

3. [26] Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.

4. [29] See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Exod.20

1. [8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

2. [10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

3. [11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Exod.31

1. [13] Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am
the LORD that doth sanctify you.

2. [14] Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

3. [15] Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

4. [16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Exod.35

1. [2] Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

2. [3] Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

Lev.16

1. [31] It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever.

Lev.19

1. [3] Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God.

2. [30] Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Lev.23

1. [3] Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

2. [11] And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

3. [15] And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

4. [16] Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

5. [24] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

6. [32] It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

7. [38] Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.

8. [39] Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

Lev.24

1. [8] Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.

Lev.25

1. [2] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD.

2. [4] But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.

3. [6] And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee,

4. [8] And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.

Lev.26

1. [2] Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

2. [34] Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths.

3. [35] As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it.

4. [43] The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes.

Num.15

1. [32] And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

Num.28

1. [9] And on the sabbath day two lambs of the first year without spot, and two tenth deals of flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and the drink offering thereof:

2. [10] This is the burnt offering of every sabbath, beside the continual burnt offering, and his drink offering.

Deut.5

1. [12] Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.

2. [14] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.

3. [15] And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

2Kgs.4

1. [23] And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall be well.

2Kgs.11

1. [5] And he commanded them, saying, This is the thing that ye shall do; A third part of you that enter in on the sabbath shall even be keepers of the watch of the king's house;

2. [7] And two parts of all you that go forth on the sabbath, even they shall keep the watch of the house of the LORD about the king.

3. [9] And the captains over the hundreds did according to all things that Jehoiada the priest commanded: and they took every man his men that were to come in on the sabbath, with them that should go out on the sabbath, and came to Jehoiada the priest.

2Kgs.16

1. [18] And the covert for the sabbath that they had built in the house, and the king's entry without, turned he from the house of the LORD for the king of Assyria.

1Chr.9

1. [32] And other of their brethren, of the sons of the Kohathites, were over the shewbread, to prepare it every sabbath.

1Chr.23

1. [31] And to offer all burnt sacrifices unto the LORD in the sabbaths, in the new moons, and on the set feasts, by number, according to the order commanded unto them, continually before the LORD:

2Chr.2

1. [4] Behold, I build an house to the name of the LORD my God, to dedicate it to him, and to burn before him sweet incense, and for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts of the LORD our God. This is an ordinance for ever to Israel.

2Chr.8

1. [13] Even after a certain rate every day, offering according to the commandment of Moses, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts, three times in the year, even in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles.

2Chr.23

1. [4] This is the thing that ye shall do; A third part of you entering on the sabbath, of the priests and of the Levites, shall be porters of the doors;

2. [8] So the Levites and all Judah did according to all things that Jehoiada the priest had commanded, and took every man his men that were to come in on the sabbath, with them that were to go out on the sabbath: for Jehoiada the priest dismissed not the courses.

2Chr.31

1. [3] He appointed also the king's portion of his substance for the burnt offerings, to wit, for the morning and evening burnt offerings, and the burnt offerings for the sabbaths, and for the new moons, and for the set feasts, as it is written in the law of the LORD.

2Chr.36

1. [21] To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.

Neh.9

1. [14] And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:

Neh.10

1. [31] And if the people of the land bring ware or any victuals on the sabbath day to sell, that we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on the holy day: and that we would leave the seventh year, and the exaction of every debt.

2. [33] For the shewbread, and for the continual meat offering, and for the continual burnt offering, of the sabbaths, of the new moons, for the set feasts, and for the holy things, and for the sin offerings to make an atonement for Israel, and for all the work of the house of our God.

Neh.13

1. [15] In those days saw I in Judah some treading wine presses on the sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.

2. [16] There dwelt men of Tyre also therein, which brought fish, and all manner of ware, and sold on the sabbath unto the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.

3. [17] Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said unto them, What evil thing is this that ye do, and profane the sabbath day?

4. [18] Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city? yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the sabbath.

5. [19] And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day.

6. [21] Then I testified against them, and said unto them, Why lodge ye about the wall? if ye do so again, I will lay hands on you. From that time forth came they no more on the sabbath.

7. [22] And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and that they should come and keep the gates, to sanctify the sabbath day. Remember me, O my God, concerning this also, and spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy.

Isa.1

1. [13] Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Isa.56

1. [2] Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

2. [4] For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;

3. [6] Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

Isa.58

1. [13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Isa.66

1. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Jer.17

1. [21] Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem;

2. [22] Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.

3. [24] And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the LORD, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein;

4. [27] But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.

Lam.1

1. [7] Jerusalem remembered in the days of her affliction and of her miseries all her pleasant things that she had in the days of old, when her people fell into the hand of the enemy, and none did help her: the adversaries saw her, and did mock at her sabbaths.

Lam.2

1. [6] And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.

Ezek.20

1. [12] Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

2. [13] But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

3. [16] Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols.

4. [20] And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.
5. [21] Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.

6. [24] Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols.

Ezek.22

1. [8] Thou hast despised mine holy things, and hast profaned my sabbaths.

2. [26] Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

Ezek.23

1. [38] Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths.

Ezek.44

1. [24] And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.

Ezek.45

1. [17] And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.

Ezek.46

1. [1] Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

2. [3] Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons.

3. [4] And the burnt offering that the prince shall offer unto the LORD in the sabbath day shall be six lambs without blemish, and a ram without blemish.

4. [12] Now when the prince shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering or peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD, one shall then open him the gate that looketh toward the east, and he shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, as he did on the sabbath day: then he shall go forth; and after his going forth one shall shut the gate.

Hos.2

1. [11] I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

Amos.8

1. [5] Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?

1Esdr.1

1. [58] Until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths, the whole time of her desolation shall she rest, until the full term of seventy years.

1Esdr.5

1. [52] And after that, the continual oblations, and the sacrifice of the sabbaths, and of the new moons, and of all holy feasts.

1Esdr.9

1. [14] Then Jonathan the son of Azael and Ezechias the son of Theocanus accordingly took this matter upon them: and Mosollam and Levis and Sabbatheus helped them.

Jdt.8

1. [6] And she fasted all the days of her widowhood, save the eves of the sabbaths, and the sabbaths, and the eves of the new moons, and the new moons and the feasts and solemn days of the house of Israel.

Jdt.10

1. [2] She rose where she had fallen down, and called her maid, and went down into the house in the which she abode in the sabbath days, and in her feast days,

1Mac.1

1. [39] Her sanctuary was laid waste like a wilderness, her feasts were turned into mourning, her sabbaths into reproach her honour into contempt.

2. [43] Yea, many also of the Israelites consented to his religion, and sacrificed unto idols, and profaned the sabbath.

3. [45] And forbid burnt offerings, and sacrifice, and drink offerings, in the temple; and that they should profane the sabbaths and festival days:

1Mac.2

1. [32] They pursued after them a great number, and having overtaken them, they camped against them, and made war against them on the sabbath day.

2. [34] But they said, We will not come forth, neither will we do the king's commandment, to profane the sabbath day.

3. [38] So they rose up against them in battle on the sabbath, and they slew them, with their wives and children and their cattle, to the number of a thousand people.

4. [41] At that time therefore they decreed, saying, Whosoever shall come to make battle with us on the sabbath day, we will fight against him; neither will we die all, as our brethren that were murdered im the secret places.

1Mac.9

1. [34] Which when Bacchides understood, he came near to Jordan with all his host upon the sabbath day.
2. [43] Now when Bacchides heard hereof, he came on the sabbath day unto the banks of Jordan with a great power.

1Mac.10

1. [34] Furthermore I will that all the feasts, and sabbaths, and new moons, and solemn days, and the three days before the feast, and the three days after the feast shall be all of immunity and freedom for all the Jews in my realm.

2Mac.5

1. [25] Who coming to Jerusalem, and pretending peace, did forbear till the holy day of the sabbath, when taking the Jews keeping holy day, he commanded his men to arm themselves.

2. [26] And so he slew all them that were gone to the celebrating of the sabbath, and running through the city with weapons slew great multitudes.

2Mac.6

1. [6] Neither was it lawful for a man to keep sabbath days or ancient fasts, or to profess himself at all to be a Jew.

2. [11] And others, that had run together into caves near by, to keep the sabbath day secretly, being discovered by Philip, were all burnt together, because they made a conscience to help themselves for the honour of the most sacred day.

2Mac.8

1. [26] For it was the day before the sabbath, and therefore they would no longer pursue them.

2. [27] So when they had gathered their armour together, and spoiled their enemies, they occupied themselves about the sabbath, yielding exceeding praise and thanks to the Lord, who had preserved them unto that day, which was the beginning of mercy distilling upon them.

3. [28] And after the sabbath, when they had given part of the spoils to the maimed, and the widows, and orphans, the residue they divided among themselves and their servants.

2Mac.12

1. [38] So Judas gathered his host, and came into the city of Odollam, And when the seventh day came, they purified themselves, as the custom was, and kept the sabbath in the same place.

2Mac.15

1. [1] But Nicanor, hearing that Judas and his company were in the strong places about Samaria, resolved without any danger to set upon them on the sabbath day.

2. [3] Then the most ungracious wretch demanded, if there were a Mighty one in heaven, that had commanded the sabbath day to be kept.

Matt.12

1. [1] At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.

2. [2] But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

3. [5] Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

4. [8] For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

5. [10] And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.

6. [11] And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?

7. [12] How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

Matt.24

1. [20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Matt.28

1. [1] In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Mark.1

1. [21] And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.

Mark.2

1. [23] And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.

2. [24] And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?

3. [27] And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

4. [28] Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Mark.3

1. [2] And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.
2. [4] And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

Mark.6

1. [2] And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?

Mark.15

1. [42] And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

Mark.16

1. [1] And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

Luke.4

1. [16] And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
2. [31] And came down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and taught them on the sabbath days.

Luke.6

1. [1] And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands.
2. [2] And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days?
3. [5] And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
4. [6] And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered.
5. [7] And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him.
6. [9] Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?

Luke.13

1. [10] And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.
2. [14] And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
3. [15] The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
4. [16] And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Luke.14

1. [1] And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.
2. [3] And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?
3. [5] And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?

Luke.23

1. [54] And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
2. [56] And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

John.5

1. [9] And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
2. [10] The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.
3. [16] And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
4. [18] Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John.7

1. [22] Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
2. [23] If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

John.9

1. [14] And it was the sabbath day when Jesus made the clay, and opened his eyes.
2. [16] Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.

John.19

1. [31] The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Acts.1

1. [12] Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

Acts.13

1. [14] But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
2. [27] For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
3. [42] And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
4. [44] And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Acts.15

1. [21] For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Acts.16

1. [13] And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.

Acts.17

1. [2] And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

Acts.18

1. [4] And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Col.2

1. [16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:



NOW ALSO ALOT OF THE SABBATH WERE THROUGH MOSIAC LAW....WHICH BECAUSE OF CHRIST WERE NO LONGER REQUIRED....SUCH AS BURNT OFFERINGS, AND OTHERS.

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