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Topic: Trump's bills soon come due
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Thu 05/23/24 05:40 PM

In a rambling fundraising pitch to oil executives in Houston on Wednesday, former president Donald Trump promised them he would immediately approve their projects and expand drilling in a second term — just as he worked to expedite the controversial Dakota Access and Keystone XL pipelines soon after taking office in 2016.

That’s right… he told American voters the same thing . On day one Drill baby drill. That’s what America needs.. energy independence for U.S. not Iran or Russia and China like Biden’s doing…

"Drill baby drill" won't make America independent of the oil market; that's not how it works. Oil is sold on an international market, so no matter how much the US drills and sells, the price of oil is still whatever the market will bear, and the US oil companies will never give up their rights to sell to the highest bidders.

If you want energy independence, (and we already have it on most levels) we'll have to expand the use of wind, solar, hydro, nuclear and everything else where appropriate.

If we were drilling and actually processing our own oil at the levels we were with Trump than our reserve wouldn’t be so dangerously low. Leaving us vulnerable if we had a attack here on our soil, which isn’t so far out of reality with the borders being wide open. 1000s of unvetted Chinese migrants coming in, all men, and fit like they are military ready.. is Biden letting China build a army here, unwittingly. ? Sounds far fetched but not impossible.. at the very least we wouldn’t be paying more to fill it than Biden sold it for , just to gain a few votes for democrats in 2020

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Thu 05/23/24 05:52 PM
Edited by pumpilicious 💕 on Thu 05/23/24 05:56 PM



Most experts expect him to win the appeal because of the partisan politics that is clearly involved with the Judge.. and the liberal prosecutor… Trump never had a fair chance for his defense.


Unless by "experts" you mean the commenters on the Conservative blogs you follow, I doubt that. Most opinions I've read confirm that appeals are difficult and citing the political views of the DA aren't sufficient. Tish James brought a carefully documented case and witnesses to court. Trump had no defense. It was such an obvious case that the judge granted a default judgement. Even the notion that there were no victims isn't enough. First the law doesn't require the prosecution to find a victim, and second, the state's witness testified that banks lost out on hundreds of $million in interest Trump would've otherwise paid. And besides, it's fraud. Saying you can't charge because nobody was hurt is like saying people can drive drunk as long as they don't get into an accident. Trump will lose his appeal.

Anyway, I only searched the web for a while to see if I could find any "experts" who agreed with you, and had no luck. Got a link?


Nope. There aren't any. And no matter how many links you have for evidence, they've all made up their minds and believe tfg lies. Here is a thread full of proof
being attacked by baseless bias, over and over. Or deflection about Biden, once again.
BTW, most in this forum watch fox or rw propaganda. I am like you sir, sources over opinions. Thank you for trying to make them understand.

Still following the heard I see… sad but not surprised…
/herd

And Nope, that would be you sir.

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Fri 05/24/24 02:02 AM
1. When he dismissed Russian interference in the election
The spectre of Russia has haunted Trump since the 2016 election that brought him to power. Post-election analysis of data by the likes of academics seems to suggest that yes, Russian interference played a part in it.

But Trump, funnily enough, has never been keen to examine the role Russia might have had in seeing him elected. This means he’s not only blocked every attempt to investigate it but also sacked multiple officials who’ve threatened to do so, like former FBI director James Comey. Trump even admitted that Russia was part of his reasoning for firing Comey, making him only the second American president to sack his FBI director. Historic.

Ah, the sweet smell of nepotism. As soon as Trump went to the White House, so did his family. But breaking with protocol, members of the extended Trump clan quickly received important high-ranking roles. Like daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared who are now special advisors, a role that is very vague but ensures they’re essentially part of running the country. Ivanka’s attempt to mingle with world leaders at the 2019 G20 summit was widely ridiculed.

It’s not stopped her, or the other Trumps, from ascending the power ladder though.

You have to do something pretty bad to be impeached. Like have sexual relations with a much more junior member of staff and then lie about it. The accusation facing Donald Trump was that he pressured Ukraine to dig up dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter, threatening to withhold aid unless the Ukrainian president complied with his wishes.

Trump was acquitted by the Republican Senate majority but people can examine the evidence for themselves…

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Fri 05/24/24 04:45 AM
It was a open arms welcoming for Trump in the Bronx. Approximately 10,000 people lined up to support Trump. From a heavy democrat district. Says a lot about how the citizens of this community view their own democrat representatives .. a poor view IMO. these folks like the policy of Trump putting Americans first instead of Biden’s policy of putting Americans last.. I think the minorities are finally seeing the Democratic Party for what they are. Users and abusers willing to pander to , than ignore their plight.. I think the Biden administration is freaking out today just like their propagandist media..

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Fri 05/24/24 04:51 AM



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/todays-front-pages-trump-storms-the-bronx-gops-victory-in-south-carolina/ar-BB1mYyCf?ocid=BingNewsSerp

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Fri 05/24/24 06:24 AM

1. When he dismissed Russian interference in the election
The spectre of Russia has haunted Trump since the 2016 election that brought him to power. Post-election analysis of data by the likes of academics seems to suggest that yes, Russian interference played a part in it.

But Trump, funnily enough, has never been keen to examine the role Russia might have had in seeing him elected. This means he’s not only blocked every attempt to investigate it but also sacked multiple officials who’ve threatened to do so, like former FBI director James Comey. Trump even admitted that Russia was part of his reasoning for firing Comey, making him only the second American president to sack his FBI director. Historic.

Ah, the sweet smell of nepotism. As soon as Trump went to the White House, so did his family. But breaking with protocol, members of the extended Trump clan quickly received important high-ranking roles. Like daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared who are now special advisors, a role that is very vague but ensures they’re essentially part of running the country. Ivanka’s attempt to mingle with world leaders at the 2019 G20 summit was widely ridiculed.

It’s not stopped her, or the other Trumps, from ascending the power ladder though.

You have to do something pretty bad to be impeached. Like have sexual relations with a much more junior member of staff and then lie about it. The accusation facing Donald Trump was that he pressured Ukraine to dig up dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter, threatening to withhold aid unless the Ukrainian president complied with his wishes.

Trump was acquitted by the Republican Senate majority but people can examine the evidence for themselves…

:dart:

Bart's photo
Fri 05/24/24 06:41 AM


1. When he dismissed Russian interference in the election
The spectre of Russia has haunted Trump since the 2016 election that brought him to power. Post-election analysis of data by the likes of academics seems to suggest that yes, Russian interference played a part in it.

But Trump, funnily enough, has never been keen to examine the role Russia might have had in seeing him elected. This means he’s not only blocked every attempt to investigate it but also sacked multiple officials who’ve threatened to do so, like former FBI director James Comey. Trump even admitted that Russia was part of his reasoning for firing Comey, making him only the second American president to sack his FBI director. Historic.

Ah, the sweet smell of nepotism. As soon as Trump went to the White House, so did his family. But breaking with protocol, members of the extended Trump clan quickly received important high-ranking roles. Like daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared who are now special advisors, a role that is very vague but ensures they’re essentially part of running the country. Ivanka’s attempt to mingle with world leaders at the 2019 G20 summit was widely ridiculed.

It’s not stopped her, or the other Trumps, from ascending the power ladder though.

You have to do something pretty bad to be impeached. Like have sexual relations with a much more junior member of staff and then lie about it. The accusation facing Donald Trump was that he pressured Ukraine to dig up dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter, threatening to withhold aid unless the Ukrainian president complied with his wishes.

Trump was acquitted by the Republican Senate majority but people can examine the evidence for themselves…

:dart:

Please keep us updated when you have Trumps daughter or son on video with crack whores , while toting a gun he acquired illegally . Or when they cheated the IRS and lied to congress… no comparison to the disgusting criminal acts of Hunter to the smart business ventures of the Trumps …

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Fri 05/24/24 07:56 AM



1. When he dismissed Russian interference in the election
The spectre of Russia has haunted Trump since the 2016 election that brought him to power. Post-election analysis of data by the likes of academics seems to suggest that yes, Russian interference played a part in it.

But Trump, funnily enough, has never been keen to examine the role Russia might have had in seeing him elected. This means he’s not only blocked every attempt to investigate it but also sacked multiple officials who’ve threatened to do so, like former FBI director James Comey. Trump even admitted that Russia was part of his reasoning for firing Comey, making him only the second American president to sack his FBI director. Historic.

Ah, the sweet smell of nepotism. As soon as Trump went to the White House, so did his family. But breaking with protocol, members of the extended Trump clan quickly received important high-ranking roles. Like daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared who are now special advisors, a role that is very vague but ensures they’re essentially part of running the country. Ivanka’s attempt to mingle with world leaders at the 2019 G20 summit was widely ridiculed.

It’s not stopped her, or the other Trumps, from ascending the power ladder though.

You have to do something pretty bad to be impeached. Like have sexual relations with a much more junior member of staff and then lie about it. The accusation facing Donald Trump was that he pressured Ukraine to dig up dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter, threatening to withhold aid unless the Ukrainian president complied with his wishes.

Trump was acquitted by the Republican Senate majority but people can examine the evidence for themselves…

:dart:

Please keep us updated when you have Trumps daughter or son on video with crack whores , while toting a gun he acquired illegally . Or when they cheated the IRS and lied to congress… no comparison to the disgusting criminal acts of Hunter to the smart business ventures of the Trumps …
you're correct on one thing, no comparison over tfg criminal acts to bidens non criminal acts that you perceive.:dizzy_face::dizzy:

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Fri 05/24/24 10:42 AM
Pumpilicious you have a really cool profile

But how come you can get away with pictures without your face but the moderator here jumps all down me head when I post a picture of me and my dog?

No fair

But anyway back to the topic at hand…

TRUMP SUCKS

Bart's photo
Fri 05/24/24 10:50 AM

Pumpilicious you have a really cool profile

But how come you can get away with pictures without your face but the moderator here jumps all down me head when I post a picture of me and my dog?

No fair

But anyway back to the topic at hand…

TRUMP SUCKS
that is strange. I got to post one of me and my fish… lol…

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Fri 05/24/24 01:19 PM
Donald Trump wasn’t aware of TikTok at the start of 2020 – but now the viral app ranked high on his list of enemies that summer. Why? Teens.

It wasn’t until teens claimed credit for half-filled seats at Trump’s ‘comeback’ rally in Tulsa.

After that, Trump decided the Chinese-owned app was a national security threat and has now forced the sale of TikTok in order for it to continue operating in the US.

Funnily enough, senior leaders who work at winning bidder Oracle, have a very close relationship with Trump’s administration.

Oracle’s win was a surprise, with most expecting Microsoft to succeed with their bid to “partner” with TikTok’s owners in the US.

Keep your friends close and your enemy apps closer!

One of the very first things Trump did on ascending to office, was revive plans for a huge oil pipeline that had been rejected by Barack Obama.

Despite Obama deciding that the pipeline was not only environmentally unsound, it would also not deliver on promises such as lowering petrol prices, Trump merrily fired out an executive order in January 2017, signing off on the Keystone XL pipeline which would “ pump some of Canada’s most dangerous oil products over nearly 1,200 miles of US land and Indigenous territories largely for export to other countries”.

Remember Charlottesville? The white supremacist rally where counter-protestor Heather Heyer was killed after a member of the far-right drove a car into her. Well according to Trump, there were “very fine people” on both sides of that protest. One side was made up of Neo-Nazis and white supremacists. The other wasn’t.

Yeah I saw that picture of you and a large mouth bass
Nice fish
I bet you killed it you trump-sucking cobbler

Bart's photo
Fri 05/24/24 01:48 PM

Donald Trump wasn’t aware of TikTok at the start of 2020 – but now the viral app ranked high on his list of enemies that summer. Why? Teens.

It wasn’t until teens claimed credit for half-filled seats at Trump’s ‘comeback’ rally in Tulsa.

After that, Trump decided the Chinese-owned app was a national security threat and has now forced the sale of TikTok in order for it to continue operating in the US.

Funnily enough, senior leaders who work at winning bidder Oracle, have a very close relationship with Trump’s administration.

Oracle’s win was a surprise, with most expecting Microsoft to succeed with their bid to “partner” with TikTok’s owners in the US.

Keep your friends close and your enemy apps closer!

One of the very first things Trump did on ascending to office, was revive plans for a huge oil pipeline that had been rejected by Barack Obama.

Despite Obama deciding that the pipeline was not only environmentally unsound, it would also not deliver on promises such as lowering petrol prices, Trump merrily fired out an executive order in January 2017, signing off on the Keystone XL pipeline which would “ pump some of Canada’s most dangerous oil products over nearly 1,200 miles of US land and Indigenous territories largely for export to other countries”.

Remember Charlottesville? The white supremacist rally where counter-protestor Heather Heyer was killed after a member of the far-right drove a car into her. Well according to Trump, there were “very fine people” on both sides of that protest. One side was made up of Neo-Nazis and white supremacists. The other wasn’t.

Yeah I saw that picture of you and a large mouth bass
Nice fish
I bet you killed it you trump-sucking cobbler

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No I didn’t kill her, I released her , she was full of eggs. And I not sure what you are indicating by your Trump sucking cobbler part, but if that’s where you wanna go, than let’s go…

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Fri 05/24/24 02:06 PM
Now now Bart let’s not get all angry and aggressive about it
You know that you and I would never be able to agree about anything
Let’s just keep this discussion on an adult level
You called me a child before and I jokingly called you a cobbler
Let’s just stick to the issue of all the terrible things trump did to this country

Bart's photo
Fri 05/24/24 02:59 PM

Now now Bart let’s not get all angry and aggressive about it
You know that you and I would never be able to agree about anything
Let’s just keep this discussion on an adult level
You called me a child before and I jokingly called you a cobbler
Let’s just stick to the issue of all the terrible things trump did to this country

Ok.. topics only… first, what is a cobbler ? A Canadian thing??

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Fri 05/24/24 03:06 PM
See now that is why I picked it
It’s a British slang word
Originally its someone who fixes shoes but it kinda morphs into a mild insult in the 20th century
It’s really not that bad
I didn’t want to make you upset
By the way thanks for releasing that bass
They need all the help they can get
With river pollution their numbers are steadily decreasing
That’s why I dislike trump so much
He just doesn’t care about any kind of pollution
As a fisherman you should care more about the environment than trump does
Yeah Biden is an idiot too but at least he tries to protect the epa and the environment
Cheers Bart don’t hold a grudge

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Fri 05/24/24 03:13 PM



https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/24/joe-bidens-approval-ratings/



The incompetent should be out soon but not soon enough. :)

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Fri 05/24/24 04:10 PM
Edited by Bart on Fri 05/24/24 04:11 PM

See now that is why I picked it
It’s a British slang word
Originally its someone who fixes shoes but it kinda morphs into a mild insult in the 20th century
It’s really not that bad
I didn’t want to make you upset
By the way thanks for releasing that bass
They need all the help they can get
With river pollution their numbers are steadily decreasing
That’s why I dislike trump so much
He just doesn’t care about any kind of pollution
As a fisherman you should care more about the environment than trump does
Yeah Biden is an idiot too but at least he tries to protect the epa and the environment
Cheers Bart don’t hold a grudge

No grudge ,, alls good, but I haven’t seen where Trump is any worse for the invitoment than any other politicians. Trump want to drill the Gulf of Mexico and some federal lands. We can drill sadly and burn the cleanest of any nation and that is not new under Biden. Production is up but we need to make it more accessible to everybody. Cut regulations and Drill Baby Drill . A boost in employment lower prices on oil and gas and everything else starts going down.. time for renewables later when we are ready with infrastructure to sustain electric. BTW that bass was 9.4 lbs.

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Sun 06/02/24 12:34 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13486189/donald-trump-2024-campaign-raised-millions-guilty-verdict-trial.html


:thumbsup:

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Sun 06/02/24 12:52 PM
An NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, conducted during the trial and released before Thursday’s verdict, found 67% of registered voters predicting that a guilty verdict would make no difference to their vote. Fifteen percent said they’d be more likely to vote for Trump and 17% that they’d be less likely to do so. Among Trump’s current supporters, 7% predicted they would be less likely to vote for him if he were convicted.

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