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He deserves exactly what he got and probably should have gotten more time at that. Cruelty to animals is not cool, ever, no exceptions. It's long past time that people went to prison for this.
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I am part of the ASPCA and the Woodford County Animal Shelter, both with high rates of adoptions and put to sleep less than 50 animals a year. I refuse to ever work with Peta because of their high euthanasia practices, and the constant hypocrisies they make. They get mad because people kill cows and chickens for food, yet turn around a kill healthy cats and dogs. Also the members I've had the misfortune to run into(and lulu doesn't count cause i never officially met her) are no better than rioters because they attack people with their signs for just walking into a KFC.
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Vick didnt help himself by lying to the judge and flunking drug tests after declaring that he wasnt doing drugs...his attitude didnt help him in the end..too bad for him
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 JEZZZZZZ!!! Get off your frickin soap box & go read down in sports. over a week ago.  &&& Poor Vick's being drug threw the mud!!! aaawwww!! at least they didn't drop a hot wire in there while doing it!!! pppffftttt!!!!   Where's the frickin delete button!!! Totally agree!! 
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Vick's a douche bag
that deserved what he got. Now his main worry is not bending over to pick up the soap.
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Vicks deserved what he got. I am so glad that his celebrity did not get him a free ride. He is a murderer of animals.
What he did is shameful and inhumane. He has no heart if he can do what he did to those poor dogs. First dogs, then people. It takes a lot of hatred to maim and torture and eventually kill defenseless little dogs the way he did. Had it been up to me; I would put justice where he did. No pity....give it right back, the way he did those little dogs. Kat |
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Edited by
knoxman
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Tue 12/11/07 09:45 AM
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i'm sorry but that's not right and not fair that he is been drug trough the mud and everything else just for dogs. I believe wat he did was wrong but people get less time for killing people it ain't right not to mention that there are people that profit from this (PETA) but take leonard little for example (linebacker St. Louis Rams) he was convicted of vehicular manslaughter he killed a WOMAN driving drunk he is still playing football today and got less then 23 nths. dats a bunch of bull it ain't right and definitly not fair. I think after everything this man has done and taken responsibility he should have gotten less then tha otha 2. Leonard Little is the biggest disgrace the NFL has ever spawned (and just imagine the ground that statement covers). If people knew what happened in the Little incident that WASN'T reported by the corporate media, Little would've been lynched the day it happened. At the very least, he should've gotten a life sentence, and be sitting in the can today. Just because he got a bleeding-heart judge and screwed the legal system doesn't mean Vick can do the same thing. Vick got ALMOST what he deserved. Too bad stupidity isn't a crime, that would've added a few more years to his sentence. Here's hoping Vick is NEVER allowed back in the NFL, and that Little gets exactly what he's got coming to him. After all, they DO say that Kharma's a B***H. |
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i'm sorry but that's not right and not fair that he is been drug trough the mud and everything else just for dogs. I believe wat he did was wrong but people get less time for killing people it ain't right not to mention that there are people that profit from this (PETA) but take leonard little for example (linebacker St. Louis Rams) he was convicted of vehicular manslaughter he killed a WOMAN driving drunk he is still playing football today and got less then 23 nths. dats a bunch of bull it ain't right and definitly not fair. I think after everything this man has done and taken responsibility he should have gotten less then tha otha 2. little could you give details or link for story or both plz Leonard Little is the biggest disgrace the NFL has ever spawned (and just imagine the ground that statement covers). If people knew what happened in the Little incident that WASN'T reported by the corporate media, Little would've been lynched the day it happened. At the very least, he should've gotten a life sentence, and be sitting in the can today. Just because he got a bleeding-heart judge and screwed the legal system doesn't mean Vick can do the same thing. Vick got ALMOST what he deserved. Too bad stupidity isn't a crime, that would've added a few more years to his sentence. Here's hoping Vick is NEVER allowed back in the NFL, and that Little gets exactly what he's got coming to him. After all, they DO say that Kharma's a B***H. |
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All I can say to that is; at least he isn't just sitting in jail doing nothing and learning nothing except how to be a better crook.
There are people out there that have killed by car; and have never spent a day in prison or had to do the work that Little has done and is to complete. This is what drinking and driving does. It kills. In my opinion; we should all if caught doing that, be imprisoned in some way, and licenses taken away for a moderate amount of time. Twice..no tolerance. When death occurs; no just sitting in Prison. There must be something taught. Much as Little is experiencing. The difference in Little and Vicks is this: Vicks repeatedly and purposefully maimed, injured and killed innocent animals for profit. Little did what millions do: get drunk and drive (knowingly so) a death did occur. He is paying for his deeds. Lets hope he learned from his stupidity. Kat Little's the one who celebrated his 24th birthday at a St. Louis bar in October of 1998. He's the one who got behind the wheel of his Lincoln Navigator legally drunk. He's the one who ran a red light at a downtown intersection. He's the one who plowed into a much smaller car. He's the one who ended the life of Susan Gutweiler. "I think about it all the time," Little said. "I mean every day I wake up in the morning I think about it. It's always in the back of my mind no matter if you're at the Super Bowl or anything bigger than that. It's always there and I always think about it." Because he's alive to do that, Little is the lucky one. In a St. Louis cemetery, Susan Gutweiler rests beside a daughter who was killed in a car accident 20 years ago. Gutweiler, who was 47 at the time of the accident, left behind a husband and a teenage son. Their pain, Little can only imagine. "It's hard to put yourself in that situation." he said. "It's hard and I try to put myself in the situation whereas if something happened to my mom like that and it would be a hard situation to cope with." Ninety nights of shock time, to be spent in this St. Louis work house, comprise part of the sentence Little received after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter last June. He's completed about a third of that to date and part of 1,000 hours of community service a judge also ordered him to perform. If he finishes both, after four years of probation, his record will be cleared, leaving no legal trace of so many shattered lives. "It's hard because I've never been in trouble," Little says. "Not a problem kid or anything like that so when you're in the legal system like that, it's always hard on a person for the first time to go through some things like that." Little's back playing football after the NFL suspended him for eight games as punishment for his actions. Bill Gutweiler, Susan's husband, is also back on the sidelines. As an assistant to a Sports Illustrated photographer, he was at the TWA Dome for the NFC Championship game. Little never encountered him there and would not have known what to say if he had. "That's a hard question. I just, that's a really hard question," he says pausing as he speaks. I mean, hopefully him and me can sit down and get some things resolved." With Little getting ready for the Super Bowl far away from a tragedy that's marked in stone back in St. Louis, that may be too much to ask. |
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my bet would go
that he got more for lieing than dog fighting kinda like clinton impeached for lying not being a popcycle |
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wow i've been reading and i guess he did get wat he deserved but at the same time how much is enough as stated before people have done far worse and got far less yes he's a superstar and should be held to a higher standard BUT he is still human and he deserves like everyone else to try and redeem himself serve his time and get back in the NFL and finish his career there isn't too much more he can do for the dogs afta he served his time. O and i do feel bad for the pooooor animals but i feel even worse for the family that lost their mother daughter or sister by an athlete that's still on the field......
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hey new england was involved in espionage
and they got the same as a speeding ticket they should have lost any chance to play in the play-offs after all they got their spying system down pat (no pun intended) well maybe it was 
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Hey we are a Just US system, not a justice system, in this country now since our Constitution has been tampered with and Lawyers and crooks have taken over our country, time to take it back, they have also removed the 13 th Amendment from the Constitution, when is the last time you saw it in there? According to our 13th Amendment no Lawyers can hold public office, I would take that to mean , not even the position of dog catcher.
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Hey we are a Just US system, not a justice system, in this country now since our Constitution has been tampered with and Lawyers and crooks have taken over our country, time to take it back, they have also removed the 13 th Amendment from the Constitution, when is the last time you saw it in there? According to our 13th Amendment no Lawyers can hold public office, I would take that to mean , not even the position of dog catcher. what about judge or district attorney or public defender |
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Hey we are a Just US system, not a justice system, in this country now since our Constitution has been tampered with and Lawyers and crooks have taken over our country, time to take it back, they have also removed the 13 th Amendment from the Constitution, when is the last time you saw it in there? According to our 13th Amendment no Lawyers can hold public office, I would take that to mean , not even the position of dog catcher. 13th. Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Proposal and Ratification The thirteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Thirty-eighth Congress, on the 31st day of January, 1865, and was declared, in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 18th of December, 1865, to have been ratified by the legislatures of twenty-seven of the thirty-six States. The dates of ratification were: Illinois, February 1, 1865; Rhode Island, February 2, 1865; Michigan, February 2, 1865; Maryland, February 3, 1865; New York, February 3, 1865; Pennsylvania, February 3, 1865; West Virginia, February 3, 1865; Missouri, February 6, 1865; Maine, February 7, 1865; Kansas, February 7, 1865; Massachusetts, February 7, 1865; Virginia, February 9, 1865; Ohio, February 10, 1865; Indiana, February 13, 1865; Nevada, February 16, 1865; Louisiana, February 17, 1865; Minnesota, February 23, 1865; Wisconsin, February 24, 1865; Vermont, March 9, 1865; Tennessee, April 7, 1865; Arkansas, April 14, 1865; Connecticut, May 4, 1865; New Hampshire, July 1, 1865; South Carolina, November 13, 1865; Alabama, December 2, 1865; North Carolina, December 4, 1865; Georgia, December 6, 1865. Ratification was completed on December 6, 1865. The amendment was subsequently ratified by Oregon, December 8, 1865; California, December 19, 1865; Florida, December 28, 1865 (Florida again ratified on June 9, 1868, upon its adoption of a new constitution); Iowa, January 15, 1866; New Jersey, January 23, 1866 (after having rejected the amendment on March 16, 1865); Texas, February 18, 1870; Delaware, February 12, 1901 (after having rejected the amendment on February 8, 1865); Kentucky, March 18, 1976 (after having rejected it on February 24, 1865). The amendment was rejected (and not subsequently ratified) by Mississippi, December 4, 1865. |
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On December 3, 1860, the month after Lincoln was elected, President Buchanan asked Congress to propose an "explanatory amendment". It was to be another 13th Amendment, to eradicate and cover-up the deletion of the Original Thirteenth Title of Nobility and Honour Amendment. This proposed amendment, which would have forever legalized slavery, was signed by President Buchanan the day before Lincoln took office.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/consti12.html#167-1 very interesting |
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All I can say to that is; at least he isn't just sitting in jail doing nothing and learning nothing except how to be a better crook. There are people out there that have killed by car; and have never spent a day in prison or had to do the work that Little has done and is to complete. This is what drinking and driving does. It kills. In my opinion; we should all if caught doing that, be imprisoned in some way, and licenses taken away for a moderate amount of time. Twice..no tolerance. When death occurs; no just sitting in Prison. There must be something taught. Much as Little is experiencing. The difference in Little and Vicks is this: Vicks repeatedly and purposefully maimed, injured and killed innocent animals for profit. Little did what millions do: get drunk and drive (knowingly so) a death did occur. He is paying for his deeds. Lets hope he learned from his stupidity. Kat Little's the one who celebrated his 24th birthday at a St. Louis bar in October of 1998. He's the one who got behind the wheel of his Lincoln Navigator legally drunk. He's the one who ran a red light at a downtown intersection. He's the one who plowed into a much smaller car. He's the one who ended the life of Susan Gutweiler. "I think about it all the time," Little said. "I mean every day I wake up in the morning I think about it. It's always in the back of my mind no matter if you're at the Super Bowl or anything bigger than that. It's always there and I always think about it." Because he's alive to do that, Little is the lucky one. In a St. Louis cemetery, Susan Gutweiler rests beside a daughter who was killed in a car accident 20 years ago. Gutweiler, who was 47 at the time of the accident, left behind a husband and a teenage son. Their pain, Little can only imagine. "It's hard to put yourself in that situation." he said. "It's hard and I try to put myself in the situation whereas if something happened to my mom like that and it would be a hard situation to cope with." Ninety nights of shock time, to be spent in this St. Louis work house, comprise part of the sentence Little received after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter last June. He's completed about a third of that to date and part of 1,000 hours of community service a judge also ordered him to perform. If he finishes both, after four years of probation, his record will be cleared, leaving no legal trace of so many shattered lives. "It's hard because I've never been in trouble," Little says. "Not a problem kid or anything like that so when you're in the legal system like that, it's always hard on a person for the first time to go through some things like that." Little's back playing football after the NFL suspended him for eight games as punishment for his actions. Bill Gutweiler, Susan's husband, is also back on the sidelines. As an assistant to a Sports Illustrated photographer, he was at the TWA Dome for the NFC Championship game. Little never encountered him there and would not have known what to say if he had. "That's a hard question. I just, that's a really hard question," he says pausing as he speaks. I mean, hopefully him and me can sit down and get some things resolved." With Little getting ready for the Super Bowl far away from a tragedy that's marked in stone back in St. Louis, that may be too much to ask. Wish I could see the Little tragedy with the same rose-colored glasses as you, Scattrbrain . Apparantly, you've chosen to followe the script provided by the corporate media, which calls for the protection of celebrities at all times. Little got a sentence of 90 NIGHTS--that's right--NIGHTS. He was allowed out during the days to do whatever, and only had to report to jail at night. His actions immediately following the crash weren't reported by the corporate media, and if most people knew what he did, he'd most likely not be alive today.
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All I can say to that is; at least he isn't just sitting in jail doing nothing and learning nothing except how to be a better crook. There are people out there that have killed by car; and have never spent a day in prison or had to do the work that Little has done and is to complete. This is what drinking and driving does. It kills. In my opinion; we should all if caught doing that, be imprisoned in some way, and licenses taken away for a moderate amount of time. Twice..no tolerance. When death occurs; no just sitting in Prison. There must be something taught. Much as Little is experiencing. The difference in Little and Vicks is this: Vicks repeatedly and purposefully maimed, injured and killed innocent animals for profit. Little did what millions do: get drunk and drive (knowingly so) a death did occur. He is paying for his deeds. Lets hope he learned from his stupidity. Kat Little's the one who celebrated his 24th birthday at a St. Louis bar in October of 1998. He's the one who got behind the wheel of his Lincoln Navigator legally drunk. He's the one who ran a red light at a downtown intersection. He's the one who plowed into a much smaller car. He's the one who ended the life of Susan Gutweiler. "I think about it all the time," Little said. "I mean every day I wake up in the morning I think about it. It's always in the back of my mind no matter if you're at the Super Bowl or anything bigger than that. It's always there and I always think about it." Because he's alive to do that, Little is the lucky one. In a St. Louis cemetery, Susan Gutweiler rests beside a daughter who was killed in a car accident 20 years ago. Gutweiler, who was 47 at the time of the accident, left behind a husband and a teenage son. Their pain, Little can only imagine. "It's hard to put yourself in that situation." he said. "It's hard and I try to put myself in the situation whereas if something happened to my mom like that and it would be a hard situation to cope with." Ninety nights of shock time, to be spent in this St. Louis work house, comprise part of the sentence Little received after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter last June. He's completed about a third of that to date and part of 1,000 hours of community service a judge also ordered him to perform. If he finishes both, after four years of probation, his record will be cleared, leaving no legal trace of so many shattered lives. "It's hard because I've never been in trouble," Little says. "Not a problem kid or anything like that so when you're in the legal system like that, it's always hard on a person for the first time to go through some things like that." Little's back playing football after the NFL suspended him for eight games as punishment for his actions. Bill Gutweiler, Susan's husband, is also back on the sidelines. As an assistant to a Sports Illustrated photographer, he was at the TWA Dome for the NFC Championship game. Little never encountered him there and would not have known what to say if he had. "That's a hard question. I just, that's a really hard question," he says pausing as he speaks. I mean, hopefully him and me can sit down and get some things resolved." With Little getting ready for the Super Bowl far away from a tragedy that's marked in stone back in St. Louis, that may be too much to ask. Wish I could see the Little tragedy with the same rose-colored glasses as you, Scattrbrain . Apparantly, you've chosen to followe the script provided by the corporate media, which calls for the protection of celebrities at all times. Little got a sentence of 90 NIGHTS--that's right--NIGHTS. He was allowed out during the days to do whatever, and only had to report to jail at night. His actions immediately following the crash weren't reported by the corporate media, and if most people knew what he did, he'd most likely not be alive today. ============================ I did say this as well. "This is what drinking and driving does. It kills. In my opinion; we should all if caught doing that, be imprisoned in some way, and licenses taken away for a moderate amount of time. Twice..no tolerance. When death occurs; no just sitting in Prison." I have no rose colored glasses on... There are those that get a DUI, DWI, once, then twice and more..get fines and lawyer fees. Then there are those that get one DUI, or DWI, and go straight to prison. Our laws are broken. Not created equal at all. The difference I see in their cases is that one did not intend to harm, he was stupid, but no malice was thought before hand. The other one set out to cause harm and was caught. Thank goodness for that. I am glad they both are paying for their crimes. After that; it should be "live and let live". Kat |
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holy ****! Bill Clinton was a dog-fighter? wow, I had no idea.
I also can't believe there are people still complaining about Bill Clinton. I guess that means he did good? |
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