Topic: Give it up.....
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Sun 12/02/07 09:14 PM

Nope....not the last time I looked!!!noway laugh laugh laugh


And be warned... the flavour of your post was sexist...


Not meant to be, its just I understood your post perfectly

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Sun 12/02/07 10:02 PM


I'm sort of puzzled about this philosophy. Some limitations and boundaries are pretty obviously important. Nobody should put up with an abusive partner, for example. But people are going to have different priorities. For me, it's non-negotiable that my wife shares my faith.

And unless you're making a "free love" sort of argument, then this isn't even really all that practical. I'm picky about romantic partners because I am invariably going to invest a lot of energy into the relationship. It really ought to be somebody who pushes a lot of the right buttons rather than just anybody.


Enjoy your luggage....you may have to pay excess.laugh


I was kind of hoping for an explanation. I really don't understand why you think this is a good idea. Why should I date the next woman who crosses my path (and every woman thereafter?) Why should I indulge my instinctive tendency toward promiscuity? I was hoping you could elaborate and instead you just ridiculed me. Thanks.

nvrsaynvr's photo
Sun 12/02/07 10:07 PM
drinker flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou

to Jess!!

Totage's photo
Sun 12/02/07 10:09 PM
I'll give it up once I find someone that meets my standards laugh

ephraimglass's photo
Sun 12/02/07 10:14 PM

I'll give it up once I find someone that meets my standards laugh


Thank you, sir. This is exactly how I feel. What Jess calls baggage, I call standards.

Jess642's photo
Sun 12/02/07 10:55 PM
Again... if this makes no sense, and you choose to interpret my post that way... then there is nothing that will make any sense to you, no matter what I say.

Enjoy your search.


What I wrote was quite simple... you wish to complicate it.


Thats who you are.

Good luck.

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Sun 12/02/07 11:08 PM



I'm sort of puzzled about this philosophy. Some limitations and boundaries are pretty obviously important. Nobody should put up with an abusive partner, for example. But people are going to have different priorities. For me, it's non-negotiable that my wife shares my faith.

And unless you're making a "free love" sort of argument, then this isn't even really all that practical. I'm picky about romantic partners because I am invariably going to invest a lot of energy into the relationship. It really ought to be somebody who pushes a lot of the right buttons rather than just anybody.


Enjoy your luggage....you may have to pay excess.laugh


I was kind of hoping for an explanation. I really don't understand why you think this is a good idea. Why should I date the next woman who crosses my path (and every woman thereafter?) Why should I indulge my instinctive tendency toward promiscuity? I was hoping you could elaborate and instead you just ridiculed me. Thanks.


I believe that the point is not to judge by experience lived and to give people a chance. My ex had a drug problem and cheated on me should I drag that around and judge all women by it.....No. It's unnecessary baggage and I left it behind. The point is to leave garbage behind. By all means have standards but that which can hinder to leave it. All desrve to be judged for who they are not by what another has done.

ephraimglass's photo
Sun 12/02/07 11:11 PM
_I'm_ complicating things? I'm just trying to promote discussion here. I've clearly failed to understand your intent and you're taking some impossible position that if I don't understand now, I never will.

I'm calling you out on that. Like I said -- what you're calling baggage, I'm calling standards. What is the difference, in your opinion? I'll even take back the comments about promiscuity. We'll start with a simple example. Do you think it's self-defeating for me to seek a partner who shares my faith. Why or why not?

Take care,
Eph

Maestra's photo
Sun 12/02/07 11:18 PM
I think it is very important to find someone who shares your values and beliefs. Especially important to agree on what you both believe to be right and wrong - or else someone will always be the good guy or bad guy.

Quake3's photo
Sun 12/02/07 11:50 PM
Give it up.

Drop the bundle of baggage that you are lugging through life.... GIVE IT UP.


Seriously, we can wander through life, with the filters so thick on our eyes, we cannot see two inches in front of us, or we can have instant surgery,



ok? who else her besides myself thinks that Jess needs to get laid and have some nookie thrown on Her , laugh please raise your hands.........drinker


laugh :tongue:

yokoke's photo
Sun 12/02/07 11:52 PM
Double hands in the air from Yokoke and I toss in a $10...and a box of corn starch.....:tongue: laugh laugh laugh

LOLlaugh laugh laugh laugh

Quake3's photo
Mon 12/03/07 12:01 AM
Double hands in the air from Yokoke and I toss in a $10...and a box of corn starch.....


oh give it up......!!!!!!!................laugh laugh laugh laugh

Jess642's photo
Mon 12/03/07 02:30 AM
Edited by Jess642 on Mon 12/03/07 02:32 AM

All these 'conditions' all these 'limits'.... all this stuff we carry around, stumble around with...

"He MUST look like this, BE this, Do this"

" She MUST look like this, BE this, Do this."


The whole melodrama, of in the past, this happened, that happened, he did this, she did that, All of it.

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Explaining my perspective, and why I find this appropriate?

Why would it be appropriate of me to hold any person I meet accountable for the actions of people in my past?

Why would I reduce and limit parameters of people yet unmet, to conform to some trend, belief, requirements that I create, based solely on my past?

Why would I choose to hold any accountable?

Would it not be best to meet each new person, for who they are, rather than have a checklist of what I require?

If I keep my world narrow...then my experiences will also be narrow.

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Drop the bundle of baggage that you are lugging through life.... GIVE IT UP.


Seriously, we can wander through life, with the filters so thick on our eyes, we cannot see two inches in front of us, or we can have instant surgery,

***************************************************************
We can decide at any time, to allow people into our world... to broaden our views, to experience new things.

To not hold others in account.

I find many people have this rigid belief system...and they miss out on meeting the most amazing people...

I choose to share something that I also had done, and have learnt is of no use to me...that is all.

yokoke's photo
Mon 12/03/07 04:19 AM
So I guess that means no nookie is needed??? LOL
Man we are trying our best here for ya Jess LOL
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adj4u's photo
Mon 12/03/07 04:54 AM
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:wink: :wink: :wink:

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Mon 12/03/07 05:47 AM


All these 'conditions' all these 'limits'.... all this stuff we carry around, stumble around with...

"He MUST look like this, BE this, Do this"

" She MUST look like this, BE this, Do this."


The whole melodrama, of in the past, this happened, that happened, he did this, she did that, All of it.

***************************************************************
Explaining my perspective, and why I find this appropriate?

Why would it be appropriate of me to hold any person I meet accountable for the actions of people in my past?

Why would I reduce and limit parameters of people yet unmet, to conform to some trend, belief, requirements that I create, based solely on my past?

Why would I choose to hold any accountable?

Would it not be best to meet each new person, for who they are, rather than have a checklist of what I require?

If I keep my world narrow...then my experiences will also be narrow.

**************************************************************

Drop the bundle of baggage that you are lugging through life.... GIVE IT UP.


Seriously, we can wander through life, with the filters so thick on our eyes, we cannot see two inches in front of us, or we can have instant surgery,

***************************************************************
We can decide at any time, to allow people into our world... to broaden our views, to experience new things.

To not hold others in account.

I find many people have this rigid belief system...and they miss out on meeting the most amazing people...

I choose to share something that I also had done, and have learnt is of no use to me...that is all.


Jess..flowerforyou flowerforyou

Twitch's photo
Mon 12/03/07 05:54 AM
Gotta let baggage go -- why keep what you can't control anyway; too much stress in trying to control things where the outcomes already determined.
Little things are gonna happen too -- that's life. I'm a firm believer in "if you don't like the course your life is taking --change it and find what ya need.
Ya don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend oh well, there are alot worse things that can happen. Life is too damn short to dwell on what if's and poor me.

Jess, once again great thread girldrinker drinker :heart: :heart:

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Mon 12/03/07 07:24 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Mon 12/03/07 07:28 AM
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yokoke's photo
Mon 12/03/07 07:34 AM
laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 12/03/07 08:15 AM
jess I agree with you wholeheartedly. Getting rid of the baggage is hard to do. I know myself does not want to judge another person by past relationships but indeed I catch myself doing it too. Thanks for the forum