Topic: Hitler lived, and CIA knew it?
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Sun 09/10/17 08:52 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Sun 09/10/17 08:54 AM
Declassified CIA docs reveal Hitler may have survived WW2, with picture to prove it

Jay Syrmopoulos The Free Thought Project Sat, 09 Sep 2017 14:46 UTC



Newly declassified CIA files seem to confirm certain FBI documents related to Adolf Hitler, which claimed the Nazi Fuehrer escaped Germany and took up residence in South America after World War II.

The files indicate that in 1955, the chief of the CIA's Western Hemisphere Division (WHD) received a secret memo with the subject line "Operational: Adolf Hitler," from the acting CIA station chief in Venezuela, which indicated that one of his sources had received a tip that the Nazi Fuhrer was indeed alive and living in Argentina.


Interestingly, these revelations seem to confirm declassified FBI documents that also claimed sources had indicated that Hitler was indeed living in Argentina.

While the official story sold to the global public is that Hitler died of suicide in the Fuhrerbunker, the actual truth may be vastly different from the popularized version of events.

The acting CIA station chief's informants, CIMELODY, was contacted by a former SS trooper Phillip Citroen, who claimed to have been in contact with Hitler-who was living under the pseudonym Adolph Schuttlemayer - about once a month in Colombia, while there on a trip from Maracaibo as an employee of the Royal Dutch Shipping Company.
Citroen said that Hitler had left Colombia for Argentina around January 1955, and erroneously suggested that the statute of limitations for war crimes had passed - as it had been 10 years since the end of World War II - and that the Allies could no longer prosecute Hitler as a war criminal.

The CIA documents reveal that Citroen told CIMELODY that he had even taken a photo with Hitler, and provided a grainy picture that was included in the CIA memo - with Hitler purported to be the man on the right.
After reviewing the CIA's files, the WHD chief reported that Citroen had only the year before reported that a colony of Nazis was present in Colombia that engaged in "idolatry of the Nazi past addressing him as 'der Fuhrer' and affording him the Nazi salute and storm trooper adulation," in reference to Hitler himself.
The station chief wrote the WHP chief again only days later to engage in further investigation of whether or not it really was Adolf Hitler.
The HPD chief then incredibly made the decision to drop further inquiry, as he felt "enormous efforts could be expended on this matter with remote possibilities of establishing anything concrete."

A seemingly strange response considering the magnitude of the report and veracity of the sources credibility in that Citroen was a former Nazi himself.

As The Free Thought Project previously reported:

"South America did indeed play host to many fleeing Nazis - including sadistic doctor Josef Mengele, whose torturous experimentation of Nazi concentration camp prisoners eventually branched into the study of twins. Later, in a small town in Brazil, one in five pregnancies resulted in births of twins - something Argentine historian Jorge Camarasa claimed in 2009 evidenced Mengele's handiwork following his escape from Germany."

Perhaps there is more to the story than a war weary public was led to believe in the wake of the devastation of WWII, and the truth lies somewhere other than what has became the official narrative of Hitler's death in the Fuhrerbunker with his bride - with reality being much closer to an escape with may other Nazi war criminals to South America.

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Sun 09/10/17 09:25 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 09/10/17 09:26 AM
This is interesting moe, I watched a documentary a couple of weeks ago called "nazi hunters " they believed he was flown to Sweden and transferred from there to Argentina. We know that all the very important people, scientists, chemical experts especially atomic were pardoned for there terrible crimes in return for helping the usa build the bomb and many other technical advances in rockets, flight etc

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Sun 09/10/17 09:40 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Sun 09/10/17 09:41 AM

This is interesting moe, I watched a documentary a couple of weeks ago called "nazi hunters " they believed he was flown to Sweden and transferred from there to Argentina. We know that all the very important people, scientists, chemical experts especially atomic were pardoned for there terrible crimes in return for helping the usa build the bomb and many other technical advances in rockets, flight etc

have you ever heard of Cândido Godói, Brazil? Josef Mengele supposedly did expieriments here... the movie "boys from Brazil" was based on this...




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Sun 09/10/17 09:57 AM


This is interesting moe, I watched a documentary a couple of weeks ago called "nazi hunters " they believed he was flown to Sweden and transferred from there to Argentina. We know that all the very important people, scientists, chemical experts especially atomic were pardoned for there terrible crimes in return for helping the usa build the bomb and many other technical advances in rockets, flight etc

have you ever heard of Cândido Godói, Brazil? Josef Mengele supposedly did expieriments here... the movie "boys from Brazil" was based on this...





Yes, and more than likely as your op suggests, it was known about!

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Sun 09/10/17 10:00 AM
Diversing a little, the Germans were well ahead with most technology, and that brings me to my point ref vw emissions, Europe set these targets, now, if the Germans can't meet them without cheating then no one can, ?

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Sun 09/10/17 10:10 AM



This is interesting moe, I watched a documentary a couple of weeks ago called "nazi hunters " they believed he was flown to Sweden and transferred from there to Argentina. We know that all the very important people, scientists, chemical experts especially atomic were pardoned for there terrible crimes in return for helping the usa build the bomb and many other technical advances in rockets, flight etc

have you ever heard of Cândido Godói, Brazil? Josef Mengele supposedly did expieriments here... the movie "boys from Brazil" was based on this...




Yes, and more than likely as your op suggests, it was known about!
all the top german scientists were split between the allies and russia, called Operation Paperclip...i think JMelenge was considered a war crinimal, and wasn't usefull in what scientists were needed at the time - mostly the rocket/physicists/engineers...

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Sun 09/10/17 11:10 AM
The posted except doesn't say that Hitler was proven to have escaped. Only that unsupported claims were made. Similar to claims that Elvis lived into old age.

Even with what you've seen, there was no CERTAINTY that Hitler survived and escaped, only claims and stories.

That whole period is a lot more complicated than most histories about it allow for.

And like stories of Elvis, whether he did or didn't survive, doesn't seem to have had any effect, positive or negative.

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Sun 09/10/17 11:13 AM
surprised elvis was one of his generals?

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Sun 09/10/17 11:59 AM
Igor, if my Aunt had Balls, she would be my Uncle.

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Sun 09/10/17 12:03 PM

Igor, if my Aunt had Balls, she would be my Uncle.

Not necessarily wellworn, according to another post! laugh

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Sun 09/10/17 12:34 PM

surprised elvis was one of his generals?
nooooo, Hitler was his uncle granpa...what

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Sun 09/10/17 12:36 PM


surprised elvis was one of his generals?
nooooo, Hitler was his uncle granpa...what

Not possible, Hitler only had one ball! laugh

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Sun 09/10/17 01:25 PM
My round, what you all having to drinkdrinker

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Sun 09/10/17 01:30 PM

My round, what you all having to drinkdrinker

Jack daniels please drinker

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Sun 09/10/17 01:41 PM
I will join you in that mikey,Ice.

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Sun 09/10/17 01:44 PM

I will join you in that mikey,Ice.
:thumbsup:

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Sun 09/10/17 02:12 PM
I followed that. He had a nice chalet on the lake.
The elder folk from the area confirmed it was indeed Adolf.

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Sun 09/10/17 08:06 PM

Igor, if my Aunt had Balls, she would be my Uncle.

laugh

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Mon 09/11/17 12:37 PM
The theory of Hitler escaping the full encirclement of Berlin and fleeing to Latin America has always been around since the end of WW2, But I doubt it and believe that it was a Soviet propaganda ordered by Stalin himself to confuse the Allies and keep the Nazi threat alive to draw the attention of his old allies/new enemies away from him.
Anyone who reads enough about the personality of Hitler can easily tell that such a leader would never surrender or run away, his life was dedicated to the Nazi ideology and with the ultimate collapse of his Reich his life wasn't valuable anymore to him. The same went for his propaganda minister Göbbles and his family, and for hundreds, if not thousands of Nazis who committed suicide.

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Mon 09/11/17 02:49 PM
During 1 balls time in charge,
6 Million Jews,

10 Million Christians,

20 Million Russians,

1,900 Catholic Priests,

were Murdered,Raped,Burnt,Starved,Beaten, and Experimented on,

And right now the UK is Debating whether they should take out the Holocaust from it's School Curriculum, because it offends the Muslim population, who for the most part claim it didn't happen,along with Iran claiming it to be a myth,whether Hitler survived or not is just getting in the way of what's going on.