Topic: Need feedback
Salsaheart's photo
Thu 05/04/17 05:26 AM
Fairly new here. Don't quite know what to expect. Flattered by hits from 20s and 30s, but let's be real.
Please give me feedback on my profile.
Thanks

PacificStar48's photo
Thu 05/04/17 08:17 AM
If it is current lead photo is ok. One casual photo contradicts the you can dress up or down. The brick wall looks cold.

The text is not what I would expect from a salesman. If you look at what you list off seems like more reasons you will stay single than pair up.

Dry sense of humor could be plus or negative.

Haven't really suggested anything most mature intellectual women would want to do with you but a vague reference to travel. If they go to the gym it won't be to smoke a cigar.

Good you are blessed with family and friends but unless you are footing the bill for a cruise for everyone it kind of sounds like being your lady comes with a lot of work or command appearances instead of dates.

The immediate reference to expected intimacy and popping off about 20-30 Somethings contacting you kind of puts nails in the coffin.








Salsaheart's photo
Thu 05/04/17 01:49 PM
Wow, thank you for your feedback. Talk about being blunt. I can add more photos. Intimacy doesn't refer to sex. The 20-30 is a reality that leads me to question what the site is all about.
What I'm reading from you is that I need to be less forthcoming with information, and less transparent.
Don't quite understand your negative reference to the importance I place on family and friends.
I thought that I was clear when I said that I wanted a partner.
The wall is China. Easy enough to replace that photo.
Ps. I walk 7-8 k daily and go to the gym 3-4 hours per week. I salsa twice a week, and bike once a week with my son.
I have a commitment to staying healthy, energetic and in shape. The cigar, well. Just the truth, a heads up if you will.
No surprises with me. I won't lie to get a date.
Cheers
Mark

mzrosie's photo
Thu 05/04/17 02:01 PM
Hi Salsaheart

I think your profile is good... make it better by adding more pics... it is one way to prove that you are the one on the photo.

Nice to see another canuck on Mingle2
Join us in the forums and meet the community... make friends while you're looking.

Welcome and good luck :-)

Salsaheart's photo
Thu 05/04/17 02:32 PM
Thank you. I will add some more pictures. Will definitely participate in the community.
Cheers
Mark

PacificStar48's photo
Thu 05/04/17 10:07 PM

Wow, thank you for your feedback. Talk about being blunt. I can add more photos. Intimacy doesn't refer to sex. The 20-30 is a reality that leads me to question what the site is all about.
What I'm reading from you is that I need to be less forthcoming with information, and less transparent.
Don't quite understand your negative reference to the importance I place on family and friends.
I thought that I was clear when I said that I wanted a partner.
The wall is China. Easy enough to replace that photo.
Ps. I walk 7-8 k daily and go to the gym 3-4 hours per week. I salsa twice a week, and bike once a week with my son.
I have a commitment to staying healthy, energetic and in shape. The cigar, well. Just the truth, a heads up if you will.
No surprises with me. I won't lie to get a date.
Cheers
Mark



You ask for a rate and it is What it is. One opinion; blunt granted but Wasn't trying to date you didn't strike me as adking for endorsement but how to generate responses and get dates.

Please don't put words in my mouth that I would never say. I never recommend being anything but 100% truthful. Any lie, actually any post, in Mingleland is there forever if someone wants to research them.

And I am not against Your family or friends but would not be in my, or the majority of women my age who actively date, top ten list of how to date, or keep them from clicking next. My circle see visiting family and long term friends as something that is obligatory if you are matrimonial directed but I don't think that was a relationship goal you mention. Partner is more often thought of as travel buddy maybe FWB or weekend roommate but not living together or marriage.

There are a variety of arrangements sought on Mingle; they just ask that the Public Forums be PG. And they do try to screen out the commercials and scammers. If you feel you are being solicited that it is easy to report and block. Actually this is a good site for finding significant relationships. If you want that I wish you all the luck in the world.

You did not define intimacy but most women see it in profile figure it does mean sex pronto. For some that is not an issue but guarantee it will get your profile flooded with offers; many of them commercial so you might want to be VERY careful before opening any picture files to your private email. Mingle, nor I, care how you run your private life. You want to date older younger it is your business. Many older daters here are not particularly fond of younger chasing them but you can put age blocks up that are effective.

Your rate request ask for impressions and as someone who has been on line 30 years and on Mingle 15+ years reading probably five threads for every one I have posted in you hear how people tend to "read" what people put in profiles.

BUT again it is my opinion and I do not speak for Mingle even though it is an excellent site that has worked for me and a long list of others in and not in the forums. Good luck



PacificStar48's photo
Thu 05/04/17 10:18 PM
P.S. Second photo is excellent. Should generate conversation.
Adding a second zoomed out shot that reflects it was taken in China would also generate a different impression.
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Salsaheart's photo
Fri 05/05/17 03:35 AM
The power of the written word. Intimacy to me is a lot more than sex. Partnership denotes complicity, equality and more. Dating is easy when you are in the public domain regularly as I am; whether working or dancing salsa in different venues twice a week. No ego in that statement, simply fact. My profile does say "relationship" not dating.
I believe that we can write whatever we want to get a response, but will ultimately reveal our true selves in a first meeting with someone. The fact that I am active in my kids lives; and that of my granddaughter does not in any way take away my availability for a "partner" for all activities that we would do in common,
I am looking for someone to enrich my life with. Revolving doors are not my thing.
And yes, I am looking for a friend, lover and life companion; the reality of day to day. I do have dinner with my son once a week. I do visit my granddaughter weekly, and I do travel to New York when I can get an appointment with my daughter whose career has her away from home more often than not.i meet friends for lunch on average once a week, and we do a cigar evening once a month.
So, Pacificstar48, the person that I hope to attract, is the person who will be complicit in getting me off the "dating" site.
Actually enjoying the interaction. Isn't clarification a wonderful thing.
Cheers
Mark
PS. Based on your your interpretation of "intimacy", I better understand the hits that I am getting from young women. Thank you for that.

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 05/05/17 03:46 PM
True "cyber speak" is not the same as what many who have a degree of literacy and maturity think when they try to communicate. Rather sad that the proliferation of Neanderthals that do exist tend to influence how the experienced computer user reads or uses certain terms. Male or female.

I am with you in defining intimacy as something definitely more than pronto sexual intercourse. Many have to their shock and disgust found out that a few doors are best left closed until a few conversations are exchanged and you have an idea what field you are playing on. Lol

Especially when you move out into the greater world or away from the rather upscale side of tourist destinations.

You mention a lifestyle where actively and pleasantly interact with family and friends regularly. On line that is definitely not always or even frequently the case. Many have a variety of Ex's, in-laws some probably more aptly described as "outlaws", children with children (sometimes at shockingly early ages) with "problems" you would think were staged like some reaity show so yhe people who justly want to share their ideal family tend to be viewed with reserve at best to running screaming off your profile like their life depends on it. I exaggerate but it only takes a hint of someone saying "my little darlings" to click next.

Well written/illustrated profiles are a great first step to getting off date sites.

And granted it is an art form worth cultivating because it does connect you and very little of it is luck. There doesn't have to be great looks. Or trappings most of us consider success. There are a variety of formats but the ones that get you out of what is a sea of faces and mind numbing reading of profiles is pretty simple.

You are getting closer the few tweeks you have made and the added conversations here. HOPEFULLY you integrate a few clarifications without making it too long which often the profiles tend to be because it always boils down to that first snapshot impression.

The more I chat back an forth with you the more your true tenor comes through but the profile does allow that luxury so you really have to edit then add back in after that first response.

You can really plant the seeds for those conversations best with photos but a few select descriptive adjectives helps. One you have repeatedly mention enjoying is the salsa dancing so showing you learning, doing,teaching that would edit text without leaving out how you are active and personable.

I would be the last to debate the whole merits of or being a smoker. Or not. (Clearly you are and consider it a luxury you would not want to debate.) Also since much of my family depends on the industry. Not so much cigars directly but high quality tobacco. I think it would be deceitful. But again perception is everything and a photo of you smoking where ever you usually do that comes off as this is me not what a couple of places in your profile comes off as leaning toward " this is my universe; take it or leave it." I really doubt if you are a successful salesman who can afford world travel that you can't tell the truth about a good product and sell it as a plus if you Nuance how you structure your profile. Again not lying but being diplomatic and soft pedaling the "I" factor.

JOB description is another example. Online it has gotten so bad that putting "engineer" is synonymous with scammer so first thing I tell the engineers is put a couple words in front of it; like train, hydro electric, solar, sound and resonance, lighting, or digital imaging and suddenly their back n the game. Since l hardly think you are outside Walmart hustleing Obama phones or curb siding cars you might want to say what kind of sales.




Yes the sugar babies know the difference but that is just the static you have to ignore in cyber dating. Women get it to. You would not want to here me whine about it and in profiles it is kind of social suicide.

Some actually do on purpose once we find a significant interest to just weed down the mail. I don't personally announce to the world my current status but were I trying to snag a boyfriend here my profile would look much different.



Salsaheart's photo
Sat 05/06/17 05:10 AM
Cyber speak. More like the inability to interact on a human level. My 4 year old granddaughter navigates a computer better than I do. A Scary sign of the times. Thankfully, her mum and dad focus a lot on playdates and interaction with others.
What you refer to as Neanderthal, can also simply be someone who is not up to date on the written times.
I must be a Neanderthal!
I understand the concept of "people don't change, only the way we see them" or in this case, how we interpret what they have put on on cyber paper.
A person writes ."I want to meet someone with the same beliefs and values as mine" what does that even mean? How do you put your beliefs and values into a few sentences?
Discussion closed! How sad.
I prefer to cook rather than eat out on a regular basis. Does that make me cheap?
Call me cynical if you will,
Where family is concerned, I would not even want to introduce or oblige someone to do home visits with me until we are ready to see if we can make this new relationship work. My adult children might understand, but the little person in my life doesn't need to be subjected to a revolving door model. Children become attached and feel separation anxiety differently then adults.
Some of your suggestions make sense. And I will add a few pictures of me in a more natural habitat.
It would seem that people look at what you represent more than who you are. Feeling safe with someone has to work both ways in my world. Sales, engineering, self employed (house cleaner or CEO). Level of education, I'll take character over the rest of it anytime. Definitely more interested in who we are behind closed doors.
One profile that I read was about a love of travel with a "where will you take me" as opposed to "where will we go".
What dos that tell me about the person? How do you know without a real conversation?
Time to sign off and go for a walk.
Cheers
Mark

ajserialkisser's photo
Sat 05/06/17 05:44 AM
What about for mah profile

Salsaheart's photo
Sat 05/06/17 07:51 AM
What is a an mah profile?

PacificStar48's photo
Sat 05/06/17 10:13 AM
You probably haven't tripped over the Neanderthals I was referencing. Women do a lot being on line. They are the types that are really looking for free sex talk or drive over for a sexual encounter. And unfortunately the truck stop bathroom door scribbes moved onto the computer; especially so when the price for computers came down. But trying to avoid police the perverts will use "cyber slang". The prostitutes and scammers pick up that "slang" fast even if they speak little English.

You can be anywhere in the world and create a profile that looks local. If the phrases don't sound like local conversation you probably are not talking to a local. You may not even be talking to a woman because the whole computer scam thing is becoming an industry.

And you right kids do know more about computers than most of older adults. And they are very good at getting around parents and grandparents using their computers,computers in public places, or friends. Lol remember how we used to have friends keep an eye on our kids? Now they keep an eye on us on line. They can actually change programs with the click of a single key so it looks like they are doing homework and they are chatting to someone you would not let within a country mile of them.

Scamners lick their chops when they see inexperienced users come on line because they are so eaxy to con or hack. Change your passwords frequently and NEVER ever open links because they can look harmless and they have open your system to anyone who wants to exploit it.

I like Mingle because they are straight up about telling members to be careful. They try to knock off the bad but don't try to pretend that it isn't something to ALWAYS consider.

All that said there a really many great people on line and l treasure numerous people that I have actually met and either become friends with or dated. Often it is your best way to find that person who has been right under your nose so to speak but just parallel. That whole it is a small world friend of a friend or an associate. What I like about Mingle is they seperate your public and private and nobody can post on your profile that you don't pick. Other sites get hacked and flooded with adds.

The Mah profile is a typo or language mistake. Or did not read the forum how toos.

If someone wants their profile rated they have to start their own thread. That way things don't get confused.





Salsaheart's photo
Sat 05/06/17 12:58 PM
Thank you for that feedback.

no photo
Sat 05/06/17 02:49 PM

Fairly new here. Don't quite know what to expect. Flattered by hits from 20s and 30s, but let's be real.
Please give me feedback on my profile.
Thanks


Don't be too flattered. Those "gals" are actually some guy sitting in a internet café in Nigeria.

I mean really... what the hell would guys like us do with a women in her 20's?... I really don't want to feel the paramedics shock paddles on my chest at this point in life.

no photo
Sat 05/06/17 04:21 PM
My best advice, join the forums and be real.

Salsaheart's photo
Sat 05/06/17 06:26 PM
Sound advice.1 step at a time. Need to find my footing.
Thank you