Topic: illegals Killed in Oakland Fire - no one obeys laws sheesh
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Wed 12/07/16 02:12 AM
Well folks ..

I am sure you have seen the news about that Oakland California warehouse fire.

They are pretty sure it is only 39 dead people ... and a few of them were illegals.

Found out real quick and they were from North Korea, Bolivia and maybe Greece.

Not suppose to be in the US of A ... and living homeless in a warehouse on the cheap.

If they had just obeyed the law .. they would still be alive to day.

Every one ... has to obey the law.

The Property owner .. who leased the warehouse at $4,500 a month to some guy who rented it out to maybe a 200 people at $500 each a month making $10,000 a month.

It was illegal to live there, make a squatters camp, the Fire Marshal did not take care of this death trap nor did Oakland building code inspectors do anything about it ...

and of course, Immigration and Naturalization do not anything about it.

All these laws being violated .. and who gets the Murder charges on their neck.

For an accident of bad illegal wiring and keeping a trash pit of flame material with no fire suppression system and no exit signs and no emergency lighting while also keeping vehicles with fuel in them ... in a warehouse with people inside.

well ... the people who did live there .. pay their rent ... knew what they were doing.

Much like a Heroin addict shooting garbage up their vein ... with street drugs and die.

they knew what was in the Heroin that killed them for the dirty needle they used.

Lots of laws being broken ... and Heroin is the best and cheapest it has been since Bush the Worst got into Afghanistan ...

and Little Barry Soweto the Prince of Peace ... stays there unable to win a war of 18 years duration ...

as the Heroin is coming into the drug lords.

Just follow the money and it all makes sense.

Meanwhile .. 39 people burned to death ... some of them texting as they died.

City of Oakland is now asking for Emergency Federal Money from ... you guessed it .. the Prince of Peace ... for finding more death traps like this in town.

sumbuddie wear blind sea

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Wed 12/07/16 04:15 AM
These " flop houses" are in many cities. Especially those with a " artsy" theme to them, such as S.F.

Because " its cool" to live like that.. so they think.

But you are absolutly right, they are illegal and in fact a deathtrap.

These people who live there know nothing about fire / safety and could care less. The living quarters are made up almost entirly of wood and electric is run 1/2 assed. Heating by space heaters and such.

I blame the city and the city code office for not closing this place down. It was there for a long time and many people knew of it.

Nobody wants to see anyone die like that, hopefully this will send a clear message to all cities and enforcement will take place.

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Wed 12/07/16 04:48 AM
Rather a confused mess bombast of interwoven fact and political bombast and prejudice in that opening statement.

But in general, I agree that we seem to be seeing a LOT of people in high places ignoring laws these days. The sad thing is, a lot of the same people who are shouting and pointing fingers when one group does it, fall silent or even praise the OTHER group when THEY do it.

Never going to fix anything with one-sided attacks, when both sides are doing the same thing.

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Wed 12/07/16 04:55 AM
Oh, gee. Wouldn't it be nice if the OP would cite his sources of information.

Being that a party was taking place in the warehouse at the time of the fire, what evidence is there that the victims were the ones who were living in the warehouse?


The Los Angeles Times has identified the victims, whose identities can be read by clicking here.

I see no evidence that any of the victims were foreigners who were in the USA illegally.

However, don't let pesky little things like facts stop anyone from going into a nonsense rant against a past or present POTUS.


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Wed 12/07/16 12:37 PM
Got to love those liberal, gun free, sanctuary cities.
whoa

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Wed 12/07/16 04:07 PM

Got to love those liberal, gun free, sanctuary cities.
whoa


Oh they are clueless on being killed in the culture war ... all the terror attacks are in blue states. Now ISIS is blowing up Blue State Dumpster Trash cans.

So for the people who want references here is one.

http://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/prosecutors-say-criminal-charges-possible-in-oakland-fire-investigation/

What I posted is a synopsis of all the local news I am privy to as well as personal witness that are not on the news.

The Oakland Berkeley crowd are a conscious group of people .. and they KNOW this is a run of illegal unprofessional actions.

Like the 17 year old kid that was burned to death, he was the son of an Alameda County Sheriff Deputy ... into obeying the law except what his boss tells him not to.

Still when the Mayor of Oakland got on the stage she was boooed and jerrred .. do not see that on the media news what so ever.

The Crowd in front of the Mayor KNOW she ... and I want to be charitable here in my characterization ... they know her professional performance has been absolutely abysmal.

The Oakland Government has Child Prostitutes having sex with Oakland PD cops.

Oakland Government now is responsible for this schooching the pooch.

The People there .. they are pissed .. big time.

sumbuddie wear blind sea

:thumbsup:

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Wed 12/07/16 04:25 PM
Yes, there could be criminal charges against those who own the warehouse, but there is no evidence that any of the victims were illegal immigrants.

Also, there is nothing in the warehouse story that remotely pertains to heroin.

So, the first post in this thread is a bunch of nonsense.

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Wed 12/07/16 04:34 PM
From CBS News:
Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said late Tuesday the inspector followed procedure and later sent a request to the owner to gain entry. She did not reveal the outcome of that request.

Under the Oakland city code, building officials and fire marshals need court permission to enter commercial lodgings if the owner or manager refuses access.

Building inspectors typically cannot force entry to a property unless there are pressing circumstances, Schaaf said.

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Wed 12/07/16 06:57 PM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 12/07/16 06:58 PM
Building inspectors typically cannot force entry to a property unless there are pressing circumstances.

I guess a raging fire would be one pressing circumstance. ohwell

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Wed 12/07/16 11:12 PM

Rather a confused mess bombast of interwoven fact and political bombast and prejudice in that opening statement.

But in general, I agree that we seem to be seeing a LOT of people in high places ignoring laws these days. The sad thing is, a lot of the same people who are shouting and pointing fingers when one group does it, fall silent or even praise the OTHER group when THEY do it.

Never going to fix anything with one-sided attacks, when both sides are doing the same thing.


The OP was one big mess. First when you open it your thinking it's about people who were here illegally dying in the fire is no big deal because they are here illegally, which is a BS comment to even imply. Being in a country illegally isn't a reason to be happy people died.

Then he jumps to attacking war, Heroin, President Bush and President Obama and none of that has anything to do with the original story.

Almost like a schizophrenic post........

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Wed 12/07/16 11:20 PM


Got to love those liberal, gun free, sanctuary cities.
whoa


Oh they are clueless on being killed in the culture war ... all the terror attacks are in blue states. Now ISIS is blowing up Blue State Dumpster Trash cans.

So for the people who want references here is one.

http://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/prosecutors-say-criminal-charges-possible-in-oakland-fire-investigation/

What I posted is a synopsis of all the local news I am privy to as well as personal witness that are not on the news.

The Oakland Berkeley crowd are a conscious group of people .. and they KNOW this is a run of illegal unprofessional actions.

Like the 17 year old kid that was burned to death, he was the son of an Alameda County Sheriff Deputy ... into obeying the law except what his boss tells him not to.

Still when the Mayor of Oakland got on the stage she was boooed and jerrred .. do not see that on the media news what so ever.

The Crowd in front of the Mayor KNOW she ... and I want to be charitable here in my characterization ... they know her professional performance has been absolutely abysmal.

The Oakland Government has Child Prostitutes having sex with Oakland PD cops.

Oakland Government now is responsible for this schooching the pooch.

The People there .. they are pissed .. big time.

sumbuddie wear blind sea

:thumbsup:


Have you tried Lithium? It might help........

Make your mind up. First you say the fire is because of illegals, then heroin, then war, then President Bush, then President Obama and now it's a terror attack.

This fire is not a terror attack, and BTW terror attacks have happened in Red states as well like in Florida, Texas and Nevada. Don't let the truth get in the way of your delusional attack.

Not to mention your contradicting yourself by saying it was all illegals killed in the fire then saying the son of a Sheriff's Deputy. Make your mind up!

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Thu 12/08/16 02:00 PM

Building inspectors typically cannot force entry to a property unless there are pressing circumstances.

I guess a raging fire would be one pressing circumstance. ohwell


The Sheriff knew (video evidence) there were dozens of propane tanks and 5 RVs parked in the warehouse with it being used as a RV living space *unzoned* and not set up for it.

The Sheriff knew there was a 'restaurant' on the second floor (built up by using scrap wood) where the dance parties were held.

The Sheriff, Fire Marshall, and the Code Inspectors do a drive by and 'SEE" the blight, the trash, the piles of pallets and stuff that never got tossed away into the landfill or recycled ... as just stacking up the trash into a burn pile was far easier and less expensive.

Aluminum ladders melt at 1,200 Degrees F .. and Steel beams buckle at that temp .. of course not of it fell down like at New York World Trade Center ... cause we all know kerosene used in jet engines burns so much hotter according to the Libtard Drill Baby Drill Media.

This is all on video for you to see your self ... that is if you want to look.

Me .. I look and I see.

Nothing to prove here.

sumbuddie wear blind sea


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Sat 12/10/16 05:31 AM


Building inspectors typically cannot force entry to a property unless there are pressing circumstances.

I guess a raging fire would be one pressing circumstance. ohwell


The Sheriff knew (video evidence) there were dozens of propane tanks and 5 RVs parked in the warehouse with it being used as a RV living space *unzoned* and not set up for it.

The Sheriff knew there was a 'restaurant' on the second floor (built up by using scrap wood) where the dance parties were held.

The Sheriff, Fire Marshall, and the Code Inspectors do a drive by and 'SEE" the blight, the trash, the piles of pallets and stuff that never got tossed away into the landfill or recycled ... as just stacking up the trash into a burn pile was far easier and less expensive.

Aluminum ladders melt at 1,200 Degrees F .. and Steel beams buckle at that temp .. of course not of it fell down like at New York World Trade Center ... cause we all know kerosene used in jet engines burns so much hotter according to the Libtard Drill Baby Drill Media.

This is all on video for you to see your self ... that is if you want to look.

Me .. I look and I see.

Nothing to prove here.

sumbuddie wear blind sea




I have a brother who is a a boro commander for the NYC fire dept. When they are not fighting fires, they are out in the neihborhoods inspection building for just this type situation. If found they immediatly shut them down.. so people don't die... like these ones did.

All major ( and minor) cities follow this same exact format.

So, in my opinion, the city knew of this illegal dwelling and they did nothing about it.

As soon as the dead are buried... the lawsuits and fingerpointing will begin. And my money says heads will roll in the fire dept, the city code office and many more.


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Thu 12/15/16 05:20 AM
Oakland is pretending they did NOT know .... not a thing.

No one ever told the Fire Dept ... the Police Dept never did ... as they got the complaints.

Mind you this is the same Police that has sex with minor child prostitutes for free and for pay.

Of course, they will need to put the jury trial out of state as getting an uninformed jury will not come from California I am sure of it ... now that the news is out.

Have a bonfire and burn people alive ... chatter is up.

Oakland declares bankrupt status not to pay the claims.

The rich creepy old guys with taco sauce on their swartznegger laugh all the way to the bank.

Rinse, Lather, and Repeat

sumbuddie wear blind sea

yawn yawn yawn