i just happen to be a member of that scientific community. i don't need to see any of your facts or studies.. i've been studying it myself for the past 5 years from people who aren't "making big bucks".

the trend you're referring to is the cooling of antarctica over the last 30 years resulting from ozone depletion. but this trend is already starting to reverse.. the surface waters are warming and becoming less saline (from iceburgs retreating), and regional precipitation is increasing. the precipitation increase is what is leading to the thickening of the Antarctic ice sheet!! ice shelves are retreating and collapsing (almost 3 degrees in the last half century)

im not sure what makes you think that your "facts" are reputable and not a proponent of junk science...

im an environmental engineer.. i didnt just read a few select articles and ignorantly copy their opinions


i'm old enough to realize what a goddamn mess this world is..

Your language is offensive and counterproductive to getting your point across.

you give me a bitter chill lauren....

Wow the cooling of the Antartic is due to the hole in the Ozone Layer which lets more UV radition through which chills the area, sorry I just can't seem to follow your logic, how can radiation that burns the skin create colder temperatures on the ground? Further, if the Antartic ice cap is now receeding too, why are there scientific teams down there trying to discover why it is growing?

You keep throwing out that you are an environmental engineer, obviously you have mistaken education for intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I have ever met had PHD behind their name. To error is human, to forgive devine but to really screw it up you need an engineer.

As I said earlier the global warming tribe, you included, tend to dismiss out of hand anything that does not support your argument then you wonder why we doubt your credibility.

Remember this theory was formed by a consensus of people some of whom had absolutely no scientific background and all were appointed by their respective governments throughout the world. Some of the more learned of these appointees resigned from the group and demanded that their names be removed from the final report and they have refuiated the findings of the committee.

In the middle ages the "consensus" of scientific minds was that the world was flat and if you sailed out beyond the sight of land you risk sailing off the edge.

At the same time the "consensus" of scientific minds was that the sun revolved around the Earth.

Also at that time the "consensus" of right thinking people was that witches were responsible for all manner and forms of human and natural disastes.

A bit later the "consensus" of scientists was that the lines on Mars were canals and that life existed there.

The "consensus" of many was that the moon was made out of green cheese.

The "consensus" of others is that the position of the moon and stars at the time of our birth determines everything in our lives.

Just a few years ago, the "consensus" of a great majority of the scientific community was that we were just a couple decades away from another ice age.

You can get a bunch of people together and they will form a "consensus" but it is damn doubtful that that same group will ever come to a conclusion.

Why are people offended by global warming. One side says "its real!" and the other says "your crazy no its not!" And they continue to argue from there. Why not live and let live?

Opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one

it's only growing in THICKNESS jesus!!!!

ohh you're right.. scientists are SOMETIMES wrong so we should just throw out any and all research we have in every field and never attempt to learn anything

some of the greatest scientists were written off as fools for generations before their theories were eventually proven to be genius

ohh and as for the education vs. intelligence arguement.. you NEED an education to actually understand the mechanics of how all of this works. its not something you can just theorize from a high iq!!

gee the ice is growing in thickness wouldn't that mean more ice? Obviously anyone who has not had the benefit of the complete and well rounded education that you enjoy could not possibly understand the complexities of environmental problems. That is why many of the people appointed to the committee that formed the consensus were not scientists.

When you can tell me why deer poop is little pellets while cow poop is big piles I will be happy to discuss the transversdispercipity of different chemicals in various types of soil with you, but until then well .... you know how the saying goes

Climatologists and weather "experts" cannot even tell me if it's going to rain this weekend. In the 70's we were going into an ice age that was going to kill everyone, then we were going to get hit by a comet, then massive earthquakes in Arkansas, killer hurricanes in New York.....etc. I have trouble trusting these guys at this point. I just know I'll go into shock if I ever turn on the news the the anchor says "Well folks, actually today was a pretty good day. Nothing bad happened and I see no impending doom in the forcast." Ratings would plummet.

Hey leave MN outta this~! Let keep minnesota global warming free