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Topic: worlld war 3?
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Wed 05/18/16 04:51 PM
Edited by alnewman on Wed 05/18/16 04:53 PM




Plenty more Ethnic Russians in the Baltics,Finland and other Independent Sovereign Countries!


And how does this relate to WWIII? Are they secret infiltrators?

Think,Al,think!
Was basically the start of the last one!
Hitler and Stalin played the Ethnic Game!
Sudetenland,Poland,Danzig,eastern Poland,Karelia,Baltics,you name it!


That would be your version not mine!!! I would suggest you think as your premises are in error.

There are many factors you choose to ignore for the convenience of explanations offered by the supposed victors at the expense of some 72.5 million that died.

Really had nothing to do with Hitler and Stalin playing any ethnic game, the real game was much more sinister than that.

still relying on Mister Peabody,hmm?
Conspiracy much?
More Insinuations you can't prove!
Playing the same old Game again?
Guess you'll blame the Illuminati next!


Please do not try to pin your perversions on others, especially me. It seems to be yourself that somehow believes in some mystical dog with not only the powers of speech but to be able to travel through time. I have no belief in that at all, it is but a child's fairy tale with no true meaning except as indoctrination of the masses.

Nah, there have never been any conspiracies, the USS Maine was sunk by the Spanish, the Lusitania was never sacrificed by Churchill and the Vietnamese attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Proof, no such thing in regards to you. Everything is just peaches and roses.

Illuminati, another matter of which the true meaning and it's perversion seems to escape you. But of course they are involved but normally only as a mirror, perhaps this account from a diseration on WWI will help:

The Real Reason for World War 1

In the early months of 1917 [before the official declaration of war by the United States government] he had been in constant conflict with his chief, Secretary of the Navy, Joseph Daniels, over the same issues.

For Daniels, who resisted every move that might carry the United States into the war, those four months (January through April) of 1917 were the "agony of Gethsemane."

He opposed convoying [the intentional sending of American ships into the war zone in the hope that one would be sunk by the German Navy]. He opposed the arming of merchant ships [intentionally provoking the German Navy into believing that the ship was a ship of war].

Roosevelt favored both.

And when a filibuster prevented congressional authorization of the arming of merchantmen, Roosevelt was impatient with Wilson for not immediately using his executive power to arm [the ships]. He dined at the Metropolitan Club with a group of Republican "warhawks" [Roosevelt was a Democrat]. It included Theodore Roosevelt, General Wood, J.P. Morgan, and Elihu Root [one of the founders of the CFR].

The primary topic of discussion was, according to Roosevelt's diary, "how to make Administration steer a dear course to uphold rights."

This was an euphemism for an aggressive policy on the high seas that would result in indents and involve the United States in the war.


And then of course, Kennedy had absolutely nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs.

There is an old saying: "History is written by the victors". And then there is the equation wherein the indoctrinated defend their right to believe it.

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Wed 05/18/16 05:17 PM



World wars are described by Wikipedia as "a war involving many or most of the world's most powerful and populous countries. World wars span multiple countries on multiple continents, with battles fought in multiple theatres."

If those same parameters used to categorize past conflicts as "world wars" were used to describe conflicts today WW3 may have started years ago, especially if the internet were to be considered a "theater" in which attacks are conducted.


First, Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information for any declaration. Just a collection of thoughts of many on the internet, does operate nicely as a source of details that can be used to start research.

But as to the internet as a "theater of war", that is an interesting concept but how can one justify it? While it can be used as a nuisance, I can't see it as an act of war. Care to clarify?


First, I used the Wikipedia's description (not declaration) of world wars because I think it's pretty accurate...and I cited the source rather than just posting it as being my own words.

Territorial waters or land are spaces when invaded for militarily purposes become the "theaters" of a war. The internet is considered a "space" that can be invaded for military purposes and therefore could be considered a "theater" of war.

Using viruses sent via the internet to disable the computers that control so much of the militaries ability would be an attack. An attack on the military of sovereign country is an act of war.


Simple Definition of declaration

: the act of making an official statement about something : the act of declaring something

: something that is stated or made known in an official or public way

: a document that contains an official statement : a document that makes a declaration


Using a source to justify a statement such seems to fit the definition of declaration. But that aside, Wikipedia is still never a reliable source, just for clarification.

Now to the real matter, the internet as a theater of war, again your point is unjustified. If one can attack the military by virus via the internet, then that military would be ineffective at best even without the virus. Internet virus attacks are more of a political scenario than military.

But I do like your final declaration regarding an act of war. That is something the US has been doing for decades but then that is ok as we are the voice of "democracy". Non of that republic crap for us.


Smartazzjohn's photo
Wed 05/18/16 05:47 PM




World wars are described by Wikipedia as "a war involving many or most of the world's most powerful and populous countries. World wars span multiple countries on multiple continents, with battles fought in multiple theatres."

If those same parameters used to categorize past conflicts as "world wars" were used to describe conflicts today WW3 may have started years ago, especially if the internet were to be considered a "theater" in which attacks are conducted.


First, Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information for any declaration. Just a collection of thoughts of many on the internet, does operate nicely as a source of details that can be used to start research.

But as to the internet as a "theater of war", that is an interesting concept but how can one justify it? While it can be used as a nuisance, I can't see it as an act of war. Care to clarify?


First, I used the Wikipedia's description (not declaration) of world wars because I think it's pretty accurate...and I cited the source rather than just posting it as being my own words.

Territorial waters or land are spaces when invaded for militarily purposes become the "theaters" of a war. The internet is considered a "space" that can be invaded for military purposes and therefore could be considered a "theater" of war.

Using viruses sent via the internet to disable the computers that control so much of the militaries ability would be an attack. An attack on the military of sovereign country is an act of war.


Simple Definition of declaration

: the act of making an official statement about something : the act of declaring something

: something that is stated or made known in an official or public way

: a document that contains an official statement : a document that makes a declaration


Using a source to justify a statement such seems to fit the definition of declaration. But that aside, Wikipedia is still never a reliable source, just for clarification.

Now to the real matter, the internet as a theater of war, again your point is unjustified. If one can attack the military by virus via the internet, then that military would be ineffective at best even without the virus. Internet virus attacks are more of a political scenario than military.

But I do like your final declaration regarding an act of war. That is something the US has been doing for decades but then that is ok as we are the voice of "democracy". Non of that republic crap for us.




You are entitled to your opinion. Your disagreement with my point doesn't make YOUR DECLARATION that it's "unjustified" true. Furthermore the effectiveness of a military has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the subject of being attacked by a virus. Internet viruses are done for many reasons, they are more likely to be done for financial than political.....your point of them being "more of a political scenario" once again has ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING to do with the subject, a virus used to attack the ability of the military of a country.

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 05/18/16 11:51 PM



Plenty more Ethnic Russians in the Baltics,Finland and other Independent Sovereign Countries!


And how does this relate to WWIII? Are they secret infiltrators?

Think,Al,think!
Was basically the start of the last one!
Hitler and Stalin played the Ethnic Game!
Sudetenland,Poland,Danzig,eastern Poland,Karelia,Baltics,you name it!


That would be your version not mine!!! I would suggest you think as your premises are in error.

There are many factors you choose to ignore for the convenience of explanations offered by the supposed victors at the expense of some 72.5 million that died.

Really had nothing to do with Hitler and Stalin playing any ethnic game, the real game was much more sinister than that.
Nice try Al,but I got hip to your MO a while back!

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 05/18/16 11:55 PM





Plenty more Ethnic Russians in the Baltics,Finland and other Independent Sovereign Countries!


And how does this relate to WWIII? Are they secret infiltrators?

Think,Al,think!
Was basically the start of the last one!
Hitler and Stalin played the Ethnic Game!
Sudetenland,Poland,Danzig,eastern Poland,Karelia,Baltics,you name it!


That would be your version not mine!!! I would suggest you think as your premises are in error.

There are many factors you choose to ignore for the convenience of explanations offered by the supposed victors at the expense of some 72.5 million that died.

Really had nothing to do with Hitler and Stalin playing any ethnic game, the real game was much more sinister than that.

still relying on Mister Peabody,hmm?
Conspiracy much?
More Insinuations you can't prove!
Playing the same old Game again?
Guess you'll blame the Illuminati next!


Please do not try to pin your perversions on others, especially me. It seems to be yourself that somehow believes in some mystical dog with not only the powers of speech but to be able to travel through time. I have no belief in that at all, it is but a child's fairy tale with no true meaning except as indoctrination of the masses.

Nah, there have never been any conspiracies, the USS Maine was sunk by the Spanish, the Lusitania was never sacrificed by Churchill and the Vietnamese attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Proof, no such thing in regards to you. Everything is just peaches and roses.

Illuminati, another matter of which the true meaning and it's perversion seems to escape you. But of course they are involved but normally only as a mirror, perhaps this account from a diseration on WWI will help:

The Real Reason for World War 1

In the early months of 1917 [before the official declaration of war by the United States government] he had been in constant conflict with his chief, Secretary of the Navy, Joseph Daniels, over the same issues.

For Daniels, who resisted every move that might carry the United States into the war, those four months (January through April) of 1917 were the "agony of Gethsemane."

He opposed convoying [the intentional sending of American ships into the war zone in the hope that one would be sunk by the German Navy]. He opposed the arming of merchant ships [intentionally provoking the German Navy into believing that the ship was a ship of war].

Roosevelt favored both.

And when a filibuster prevented congressional authorization of the arming of merchantmen, Roosevelt was impatient with Wilson for not immediately using his executive power to arm [the ships]. He dined at the Metropolitan Club with a group of Republican "warhawks" [Roosevelt was a Democrat]. It included Theodore Roosevelt, General Wood, J.P. Morgan, and Elihu Root [one of the founders of the CFR].

The primary topic of discussion was, according to Roosevelt's diary, "how to make Administration steer a dear course to uphold rights."

This was an euphemism for an aggressive policy on the high seas that would result in indents and involve the United States in the war.


And then of course, Kennedy had absolutely nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs.

There is an old saying: "History is written by the victors". And then there is the equation wherein the indoctrinated defend their right to believe it.

seems I was right after all!laugh

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Sat 05/21/16 04:58 AM




Plenty more Ethnic Russians in the Baltics,Finland and other Independent Sovereign Countries!


And how does this relate to WWIII? Are they secret infiltrators?

Think,Al,think!
Was basically the start of the last one!
Hitler and Stalin played the Ethnic Game!
Sudetenland,Poland,Danzig,eastern Poland,Karelia,Baltics,you name it!


That would be your version not mine!!! I would suggest you think as your premises are in error.

There are many factors you choose to ignore for the convenience of explanations offered by the supposed victors at the expense of some 72.5 million that died.

Really had nothing to do with Hitler and Stalin playing any ethnic game, the real game was much more sinister than that.
Nice try Al,but I got hip to your MO a while back!


Doubt it!!!

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Sat 05/21/16 04:59 AM






Plenty more Ethnic Russians in the Baltics,Finland and other Independent Sovereign Countries!


And how does this relate to WWIII? Are they secret infiltrators?

Think,Al,think!
Was basically the start of the last one!
Hitler and Stalin played the Ethnic Game!
Sudetenland,Poland,Danzig,eastern Poland,Karelia,Baltics,you name it!


That would be your version not mine!!! I would suggest you think as your premises are in error.

There are many factors you choose to ignore for the convenience of explanations offered by the supposed victors at the expense of some 72.5 million that died.

Really had nothing to do with Hitler and Stalin playing any ethnic game, the real game was much more sinister than that.

still relying on Mister Peabody,hmm?
Conspiracy much?
More Insinuations you can't prove!
Playing the same old Game again?
Guess you'll blame the Illuminati next!


Please do not try to pin your perversions on others, especially me. It seems to be yourself that somehow believes in some mystical dog with not only the powers of speech but to be able to travel through time. I have no belief in that at all, it is but a child's fairy tale with no true meaning except as indoctrination of the masses.

Nah, there have never been any conspiracies, the USS Maine was sunk by the Spanish, the Lusitania was never sacrificed by Churchill and the Vietnamese attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Proof, no such thing in regards to you. Everything is just peaches and roses.

Illuminati, another matter of which the true meaning and it's perversion seems to escape you. But of course they are involved but normally only as a mirror, perhaps this account from a diseration on WWI will help:

The Real Reason for World War 1

In the early months of 1917 [before the official declaration of war by the United States government] he had been in constant conflict with his chief, Secretary of the Navy, Joseph Daniels, over the same issues.

For Daniels, who resisted every move that might carry the United States into the war, those four months (January through April) of 1917 were the "agony of Gethsemane."

He opposed convoying [the intentional sending of American ships into the war zone in the hope that one would be sunk by the German Navy]. He opposed the arming of merchant ships [intentionally provoking the German Navy into believing that the ship was a ship of war].

Roosevelt favored both.

And when a filibuster prevented congressional authorization of the arming of merchantmen, Roosevelt was impatient with Wilson for not immediately using his executive power to arm [the ships]. He dined at the Metropolitan Club with a group of Republican "warhawks" [Roosevelt was a Democrat]. It included Theodore Roosevelt, General Wood, J.P. Morgan, and Elihu Root [one of the founders of the CFR].

The primary topic of discussion was, according to Roosevelt's diary, "how to make Administration steer a dear course to uphold rights."

This was an euphemism for an aggressive policy on the high seas that would result in indents and involve the United States in the war.


And then of course, Kennedy had absolutely nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs.

There is an old saying: "History is written by the victors". And then there is the equation wherein the indoctrinated defend their right to believe it.

seems I was right after all!laugh


Right, not really. Delusional, more like it.

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Fri 06/10/16 05:51 PM
Has this not hit the American news feeds? wargames on Russia's doorstep

This will not be good,


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/06/nato-launches-largest-war-game-in-eastern-europe-since-cold-war-anaconda-2016

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