My view abt war on terror is that it was started to change the map of Middle East and oil ! They couldn't find weapon of mass destruction ..so what other think?

Well Bluebird. I think that if Middle Eastern people had taken care of Middle Eastern problems. Crusaders would have never had to enter. Now when Sudis and Iranians fund global Jihad, we have to reply. And now Isul is on its knees again. These primitive Muslims are murdering muslims. It will be up to the Muslim nations to take care of this problem.

That has all been proven to be bogus. WMD's were found and that is how ISIS got several of them from Military Facilities in Iraq.

BTW if you don't think Saddam had WMD's you might want to ask the Kurds........

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Quotes and Facts on Iraq

http://www.reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info/

Pre-War Quotes from Democrats


http://www.reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info/#Iraq_and_Weapons_of_Mass_Destruction

Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

The war has been going on since at least the 70's.
Create an ever polarizing system of have's and have nots, occupy and militarize a foreign region, sell both sides massive amounts of weapons based on your best chance of getting favorable treatment for oil, or to protect it, this is what happens.

Saying the war on terror was started because they couldn't find WMD's and wanted oil and regime changes is like saying the U.S. became a country after it received the statue of liberty because it wanted to get away from English rule, IMO.

That's all I am saying.
Because I was aware of the war on Terror in 1971.

I don't think control such kind of oil field so far from US is not fit the logic but only if your foles dead by the same causes you will know that.....it is not about the benefit dude....it's hates......take care......

你说对了

I won't tell you what I think, I'll tell you what I know. The United States didn't start the "war on terror" which is what YOU are insinuating. Radical Islamic terrorists started the war with UNPROVOKED attacks on the United States military, the United States interests and eventually its citizens on the home land.

Violence to change the map in the middle east isn't something that is relatively new in historic terms. It didn't start decades ago with the "war on terror", it's been going on for MANY, MANY centuries. Conflicts date back before the crusades.

yes, oil fields are strategic military resource. Many Middle East nations including 'Saudi Arabia' were carved out post WWII by the British. That's how Arabia became 'Saudi Arabia' given to the Saudi family. When oil was finally discovered in Dahran and then in Dammam the Chummy relationship expanded to Western ownership of all oil fields.

Following the Egypt-Israel war 1971 or so Saudi Arabia was compensated with 25% shareholding of Aramco as compensation for not aiding Egypt - 1973

By 1980 it became 100% Saudi owned. In fact Saudi learn t world class project management from Aramco!!

1975, ownership of Kuwait Oil was given up by BP and Gulf to K government.

Similar stories in Qatar and Bahrain.

It's for these special relationships on oil that Saudi Arabia and the Emirates continue to be military allies of USA and the US continues to have airbases (open secret) to protect these vital assets.

And Osama Bin Laden was recruited from the Laden family by CIA to wage counter insurgency in Afghanistan then under Russian control.

Yes, control of oil has been a major reason behind modern wars.

But then as the Arabs say, Allah may have given us the deserts but he also gave us oil. anyway there is no going back on history. It is self defeating.

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what is not so clear is the Muslim hate for Jews.
10 million Jews were spread over Europe before WWII; 6 ,million were killed by the Nazis for wealth & military reasons.

Was it because of Israels high handed treatment of native Palestinians that the Muslim world ganged up on Israel?

Not exactly.

Egypt owned the Suez canal till they sold it to the Brits in 1875.
rest of juicy story - in Wiki.

Problem started when Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal in 1951. In another 4 years British lease would have expired anyway!!

Rest we know, Israel marched her army followed by British and French.

This was probably the single most reason that crystallized Muslim hostility towards the Jews. after all the Jews and Muslims share the same prophets - Moses.

somewhere in between, Egypt had allied to Soviet Russia.
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So yes, most wars were 'conducted' for strategic justification or economic rewards. there were no good guys and bad guys then; just territorial ambitions of Soviet Russia over pr-existing gains by the West.
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But the world has changed totally and is further changing but by our past 'relationships' we fail to see 'the change'. Its like the gruesome relationship between man and wife when it comes to divorce and settlement.

Even Pak & Indian hostilities or China and India tensions have deeper economic reasons behind it. It's not between people, it's between governments. but we won't go into this.
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Syrian people like S.Arabia have been pro-west but not the ruling community who are Shia like Iraq rulers. So when ISIS got the chance they slipped in for the oil fields.

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The terror war is a strategic cover to keep world unstable while ISIS consolidates assets.

So while i hate you and you hate me - rest assured; some people are making big money out of this ever flowing river of hate.
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regarding WMD (nuclear not chemical) - only Bill Clinton can explain since he has admitted that the Iraqi war was a 'mistake' and no WMD found. Mr. Bush during his visit in India (post retirement) also admitted no WMD was found. (the video can be Googled)
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regarding Muslim boys misbehaving with women in Europe what do you expect from any boys who are under educated, sex starved, etc., etc.
Rich Muslims openly marry 4 women - high maintenance though. so what about the poor faqirs? In their own countries they would be horsewhipped if they touched a woman.

why do Muslim women look down on Western women? In their own country the Muslim woman would be punished if she wore skirts or jeans. Beyond this logic there may be psychology - i doubt because women are basically more nurturing than most men can ever be. that's why we open doors for them and not because they are the weaker sex or something.

you see Blue Bird, at the end of the day; with all the liberation and equal rights, a pretty woman is still worth her weight in gold.

Men's lives don't count; at least not as much as a barrel of oil (in many countries). That's Jihad's first principles.

It's not Islam, it's who is controlling London's Mayor. Even Khan himself is not aware about this.


thanks for reading.

* War on terror, war on drugs, war on immigration, war on, same old

stuff. A handful of "nuts" run a place, get rich, live well and

chop-up a few bodies. Same stuff, it's just human nature.