Topic: What Is The Most Astounding Fact About The Universe?
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Fri 04/08/16 12:15 PM
Back in 2008, Time Magazine interviewed Neil de Grasse Tyson, and asked him, “What is the most astounding fact you can share with us about the Universe?” His answer was indeed a very good, true, and astounding fact about the Universe: that all the complex atoms that make up everything we know owe their origins to ancient, exploded stars, dating back billions of years. It’s a great fact, and it’s definitely on the short list of the most remarkable things we’ve learned about the Universe.


But if I were to choose the single most astounding fact about the Universe, I’d want you to consider something else: something far more fundamental and profound. Consider that the Universe — with everything in it the way it is — didn’t have to be this way. It didn’t have to even be close.


We could have had a Universe without trees, without mountains, without our skies and without oceans. We could have had a Universe without planets like Earth, or planets at all. We could have even had a Universe where nothing that we know of — no particles, forces or interactions — exists as it does right now.
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Yet despite the endless possibilities for what could have been, this is the Universe we have. Our Universe exists the way it is, with all the particles, forces, interactions, structures, and the unique history of how it all came to be. The way it all turned out, no doubt, is absolutely wondrous. Just here, in our own little corner of the Universe, we find ourselves in a forgotten, nondescript little group of galaxies no more or less special than any of the billions out there.

But while our planet, our galaxy and our place in the Universe might not be special or privileged in any fundamental way, the Universe itself, compared to all the ways it could have been, is something very special. It manifests itself on every scale we can conceive of looking at. We can look all the way down to the smallest scales, to the internal structure of matter, down to molecules, atoms, and the most fundamental subatomic particles ever discovered.

We can look out, not just to the stars and galaxies, but all the way across the Universe, to quasars, intergalactic clouds of gas, even back to the cosmic microwave background and the very first neutral atoms our Universe had ever seen. We can look at all of that, and everything in between.

And yet, for absolutely everything we look at, there is one fact that stands out as the most astounding. The entire Universe,


obeys the same fundamental laws of nature.


From the weakest, lowest-frequency photon of light to the largest galaxy ever assembled, from the unstable atoms of Uranium decaying in the Earth’s core to the neutral hydrogen atoms forming for the first time 46 billion light years away, the laws that everything in this Universe obeys are the same.

Gravitation, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces are the same wherever and whenever you go. The particles that exist (and can exist) and their properties are the same. The rules that govern the entire system are the same. All of it, at all energies, at all times, at all places, are underwritten by the same laws of nature.


This is the most remarkable thing of all. Imagine what things would be like if this weren’t true. Imagine an existence where nature behaves randomly and unpredictably, where gravity turns on-and-off on a whim, where the Sun could simply stop burning its fuel for no apparent reason, where the atoms that form you could spontaneously cease to hold together.


A Universe like this would truly be frightening, because it could never be understood. The things you learn here and now might not be true later, or even five feet away. But the Universe isn’t like this at all.

The Universe is a place where the forms that the matter and energy occupying it can change, where the spacetime itself that we all exist in can change, but the fundamental laws — that everything is subject to — are constant.

Because what that means is that we can observe the Universe, experiment with the Universe, assemble and disassemble the things we find in it, and learn about the Universe itself.


Only if the fundamental laws of the Universe are the same everywhere and at all times can we learn what they actually are today. Only if those laws are applicable everywhere and at all times can we use that knowledge to figure out what the Universe — and everything in it — was doing in the past, and what it will be doing in the future.

In other words, it is this one fact, this most astounding fact, that allows us to do science, and to learn something meaningful, at all. It’s why any form of science even exists, and why it’s actually a useful tool for learning about this Universe. When you put it all together, it means the most astounding fact about the Universe is this: that it exists in such a way that it can be understood at all.

Astrophysicist and author Ethan Siegel is the founder and primary writer of Starts With A Bang. Follow him on Twitter, Facebook, G+, Tumblr, and order his book: Beyond The Galaxy, today!
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/04/08/what-is-the-most-astounding-fact-about-the-universe/#54610b6a144b

they know everything is the same????

what arrogance... everything they know about the trillions (and trillions) of square light years of the universe has been learned from our little blue ball we live on... there is way more to learn and this guy thinks we know all already?

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Fri 04/08/16 02:26 PM
If there is anything godlike about man, its that he dares to Imagine everything...

metalwing's photo
Fri 04/08/16 02:47 PM
Actually we don't know that the fundamental laws are the same everywhere. They just appear the same from what we can see. There is also plenty that we can't see (dark energy, dark matter, and black holes) where the best we can do is make an educated guess. There is also space beyond what we can see where maybe the rules change again.

The best example is the expansion of the universe. From what we can see we can measure the speed and distance of the expansion but there is very little understanding of the "why and how". Using dark energy as the fuel for expansion may be correct or it may just be feeling in the dark.

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Fri 04/08/16 02:57 PM
Edited by NOBootyHunter on Fri 04/08/16 02:57 PM
I find this interesting....

https://www.facebook.com/TheUncleAwesome/videos/1556629007997197/?pnref=story

JaiGi's photo
Sun 04/10/16 10:02 PM
great video, Uncle Awesome
ah, some coffee now to unfreeze the brain

JaiGi's photo
Sun 04/10/16 11:36 PM
returning after coffee break...


Actually we don't know that the fundamental laws are the same everywhere. They just appear the same from what we can see. There is also plenty that we can't see (dark energy, dark matter, and black holes) where the best we can do is make an educated guess. There is also space beyond what we can see where maybe the rules change again

The best example is the expansion of the universe. From what we can see we can measure the speed and distance of the expansion but there is very little understanding of the "why and how". Using dark energy as the fuel for expansion may be correct or it may just be feeling in the dark.


alternate theory with God.
then He could be using us to drive space expansion!!
if He is an Indian God 'they' are like that

God said 'let there be light'
and waited till Newton discovered the spectral game..
then Isaac Newton got into a useless fight with Leibniz
and the game was lost

but then Einstein came up with 'speed of light'
and God said why not!!

so by extrapolation of historical scientific advancements
there's been a two way street going on in this expansion
how else could Bohr dream up planetary orbits for the atom?
so little from so big?

then God used MIT, Cornell & others
came to earth as Carl Sagan wrote a few lines 'kep up the good work men' and then escaped back

the nice thing abt all this is heaven is where we are and He is in hell

now he's watching MetalWing, quite confused about
'dark energy as fuel for expansion'.

"dark energy as fuel?!?" think
"dark energy as FUEL?!?"slaphead

"DARK ENERGY AS FUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"frustrated

now HE is waiting for light on this!!whoa

meantime JaiGi asks Guru Metal: what is dark energy anyway?what
(there was a thread somewhere, laughed it off; are you serious?)













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Wed 04/13/16 09:59 PM

returning after coffee break...


Actually we don't know that the fundamental laws are the same everywhere. They just appear the same from what we can see. There is also plenty that we can't see (dark energy, dark matter, and black holes) where the best we can do is make an educated guess. There is also space beyond what we can see where maybe the rules change again

The best example is the expansion of the universe. From what we can see we can measure the speed and distance of the expansion but there is very little understanding of the "why and how". Using dark energy as the fuel for expansion may be correct or it may just be feeling in the dark.


alternate theory with God.
then He could be using us to drive space expansion!!
if He is an Indian God 'they' are like that

God said 'let there be light'
and waited till Newton discovered the spectral game..
then Isaac Newton got into a useless fight with Leibniz
and the game was lost

but then Einstein came up with 'speed of light'
and God said why not!!

so by extrapolation of historical scientific advancements
there's been a two way street going on in this expansion
how else could Bohr dream up planetary orbits for the atom?
so little from so big?

then God used MIT, Cornell & others
came to earth as Carl Sagan wrote a few lines 'kep up the good work men' and then escaped back

the nice thing abt all this is heaven is where we are and He is in hell

now he's watching MetalWing, quite confused about
'dark energy as fuel for expansion'.

"dark energy as fuel?!?" think
"dark energy as FUEL?!?"slaphead

"DARK ENERGY AS FUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"frustrated

now HE is waiting for light on this!!whoa

meantime JaiGi asks Guru Metal: what is dark energy anyway?what
(there was a thread somewhere, laughed it off; are you serious?)















I'm not sure why you would be head slapping unless you don't understand the theory of dark energy.

One can calculate the time since the big bang using conventional telescopes. One also knows that the speed of light is a fixed constant. The two measured "facts" lead one to understand that the universe, more than once, expanded by stretching space/time itself. The "expansive force" or "fuel" did not come from the original explosion but was within the fabric of the universe itself. Hence this "dark energy" which cannot be seen, felt, or measured directly shows it's existence by the fact that it has pushed galaxies apart at speeds faster than the speed of light (the original explosion could not have done this!).

There have been several threads here on the topic over several years discussing the topic at length.

Here is a six minute youtube lesson on the topic... seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAa2O_8wBUQ