100% FREE ONLINE DATING
sponsored links
Previous
| Topic: culture | |
|---|---|
|
|
|
I am American of Irish/German decent. Irish being the majority. I do know of my Irish heritage and my family line and I do take pride in it I have learned of my forefathers ( and the Irish in general) struggles to blend into the American society. We do the St Patrick's day thing although, I really have no idea what his claim to fame is. And Easter is big in my family. But my ethnic roots takes a distant 2nd to what I am.. A American. While I can understand all of the American dialects.. per region, I do at times find myself saying " what did you say" to some of the folks from the south. ( and they say the same to me) And I am most comfortable taking in my own (NYC) dialect with others from my area. It is incredible how many Americans have an Irish/ Celtic background. Sometimes I wonder WHO discovered this country.. Hhhaaa. Saint Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland. Most Irish Americans are RomanCatholic. They came because of persecution. Only to be persecuted again. Most white slavery in the USA they were Irish Catholic immigrants. Most coal miners are the same. Most cops.. Were.. the same. Why? Because those were occupations at the bottom. Unfortunately most of what you say about the Irish is not correct. Saint Patrick was not Irish and he did not drive the snakes out of Ireland (they didn't have cars back in the 5th Century  ) Most of the Irish immigrants left Ireland in the 19th Century because of the the Famine and the atrocious living conditions in Ireland after the Famine.The developing colonies offered great hope for the millions who left poverty stricken Ireland,building roads,railways,canals and cities.Yes there were hundreds of thousands of Irish slaves in the preceding centuries who were sold into slavery as part of a religious persecution but many of those who left Ireland for the US were Scotch Irish from Ulster who went there as settlers in the British colonies.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FYI, people don't speak Gaelic. Instead, they have the Gaelic.
Those who have the Gaelic know what I am talking about. Plus, one can have a Celtic background without being Irish. Scotsmen are just as Celtic as Irishmen, which is fitting because the first people to belt called "Scots" were Celts who immigrated from Eire to Alba and then intermarried with the Picts. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FYI, people don't speak Gaelic. Instead, they have the Gaelic. Those who have the Gaelic know what I am talking about. I know what your talking about, I put lots of that on my spaghetti 
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
peggy122
on
Fri 02/19/16 12:42 PM
|
|
This is a great thread Mcobi! Very educational:)
I am from the island of Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean , which is a few kilometres off the coast of South America, and more specifically Venezuela. Trinidadians are either referred to as Caribbean or West Indian people. Our native tongue is English , but many of us speak a dialect version of standard English. I am a descendant of African slaves, who were brought to Trinidad to labour in the sugar plantation during the days of slavery and who brought African culture with them as well. The rest of the citizens here, including East Indians, Syrians, and Chinese were brought here to labour under the apprenticeship system, to replace the African slaves after they were freed. Along with their labour, these ethnicities brought their food, clothing, music, religions and festivals to our soil, which is why our culture is so rich. Our country created the steelpan, which to my knowledge is the only new instrument created in the 20th century, and our national music is soca and calypso music. We also have a national Carnival which is a 5 day party for the entire country filled with our music , costumes and our dance. We actually have about 7 holidays a year outside of Carnival, celebrating the festivals of all the ethnicities represented here.  We have been heavily influenced by Spain, France and Britain, who colonised us many years ago, and we have also been heavily influenced by American Education and culture via the mass media . There are Latinos and Caucasians here as well, and more and more Germans have been migrating to our sister island of Tobago . I guess in many ways , we are like the melting pot that America embodies..Or maybe I should say a melting spoon cuz we are only a dot on the world map |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
peggy122
on
Fri 02/19/16 01:07 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
This is a great thread Mcobi! Very educational:) I am from the island of Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean , which is a few kilometres off the coast of South America, and more specifically Venezuela. Trinidadians are either referred to as Caribbean or West Indian people. Our native tongue is English , but many of us speak a dialect version of standard English. I am a descendant of African slaves, who were brought to Trinidad to labour in the sugar plantation during the days of slavery and who brought African culture with them as well. The rest of the citizens here, including East Indians, Syrians, and Chinese were brought here to labour under the apprenticeship system, to replace the African slaves after they were freed. Along with their labour, these ethnicities brought their food, clothing, music, religions and festivals to our soil, which is why our culture is so rich. Our country created the steelpan, which to my knowledge is the only new instrument created in the 20th century, and our national music is soca and calypso music. We also have a national Carnival which is a 5 day party for the entire country filled with our music , costumes and our dance. We actually have about 7 holidays a year outside of Carnival, celebrating the festivals of all the ethnicities represented here. We have been heavily influenced by Spain, France and Britain, who colonised us many years ago, and we have also been heavily influenced by American Education and culture via the mass media . There are Latinos and Caucasians here as well, and more and more Germans have been migrating to our sister island of Tobago . I guess in many ways , we are like the melting pot that America embodies..Or maybe I should say a melting spoon cuz we are only a dot on the world map It actually does resemble the American fiber :). Curious, do you go back there I know where my family is from in Ireland , and one of my brother has gone there.. said it was beautiful.. I would like to walk where " Pops" walked one of these days. I have lived in Trinidad all my life actually. My mother land would be Africa but I don't know exactly which part of Africa my ancestors originated . I would definitely like to visit there one day. I would also love to visit Ireland too. That accent is super sexy! How superficial am I ????? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
My grandfather immigrated from Ireland during the potato famine. At the time there was a lot of discrimination against the Irish here.
He also had to change the spelling of our last name because of the whole Protestant/Catholic religious discrimination too. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I am American of Irish/German decent. Irish being the majority. I do know of my Irish heritage and my family line and I do take pride in it I have learned of my forefathers ( and the Irish in general) struggles to blend into the American society. We do the St Patrick's day thing although, I really have no idea what his claim to fame is. And Easter is big in my family. But my ethnic roots takes a distant 2nd to what I am.. A American. While I can understand all of the American dialects.. per region, I do at times find myself saying " what did you say" to some of the folks from the south. ( and they say the same to me) And I am most comfortable taking in my own (NYC) dialect with others from my area. It is incredible how many Americans have an Irish/ Celtic background. Sometimes I wonder WHO discovered this country.. Hhhaaa. Saint Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland. Most Irish Americans are RomanCatholic. They came because of persecution. Only to be persecuted again. Most white slavery in the USA they were Irish Catholic immigrants. Most coal miners are the same. Most cops.. Were.. the same. Why? Because those were occupations at the bottom. Unfortunately most of what you say about the Irish is not correct. Saint Patrick was not Irish and he did not drive the snakes out of Ireland (they didn't have cars back in the 5th Century ) Most of the Irish immigrants left Ireland in the 19th Century because of the the Famine and the atrocious living conditions in Ireland after the Famine.The developing colonies offered great hope for the millions who left poverty stricken Ireland,building roads,railways,canals and cities.Yes there were hundreds of thousands of Irish slaves in the preceding centuries who were sold into slavery as part of a religious persecution but many of those who left Ireland for the US were Scotch Irish from Ulster who went there as settlers in the British colonies. --------------------------------------- Hun? So you came on the new guy's thread about culture, not to post on your own...but to attempt to tell me I am wrong about White American Irish Catholic persecution & slavery? Read my post again. Most Irish Americans are Catholic. They came because of persecution & they wanted freedom of religion. And let's face it, they had to be able to afford the trip. Of course many people came during the famine. But many Irish & many other people were already here. And most of those were (& still are), Protestant. (Except for the Original People). If you want people to believe that America never had white slaves, or Christian prosecution or that no country did, or doesn't today, that isn't going to fly because it isn't true. Forgive me if I didn't elaborate on St Patrick (I didn't bring him up in the first place). I was just saying WHY he is celebrated here in the USA... by Irish American Roman Catholic's. And people who want to be Irish or Catholic for a day.. (Hhhaaa.. American joke, because that is most of us). Forgive me if I didn't elaborate on the legal difference between 'indentured servants' & 'bond servants' & 'slaves' .. back in the day. As far as Scottish American history, I have no idea.That was not taught in American history, in my day (& probably never will be, the way things are going) & unfortunately I don't know any. Your car joke was funny. Other than that, I was just trying to kick start the new guys thread & say a tiny bit about myself & tell another American to be proud of his heritage. I wasn't trying to give a history lesson. Sorry, OP if your lovely thread ends up hijacked. Oh yea.. It can happen Geez... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
SassyEuro2
on
Fri 02/19/16 01:25 PM
|
|
FYI, people don't speak Gaelic. Instead, they have the Gaelic. Those who have the Gaelic know what I am talking about. Plus, one can have a Celtic background without being Irish. Scotsmen are just as Celtic as Irishmen, which is fitting because the first people to belt called "Scots" were Celts who immigrated from Eire to Alba and then intermarried with the Picts. .So I have heard. Did I say I was? Nope Did I say only Irish are Celtic? No. Did I say I was? Nope. Hhhaaa.. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FYI, people don't speak Gaelic. Instead, they have the Gaelic. Those who have the Gaelic know what I am talking about. Plus, one can have a Celtic background without being Irish. Scotsmen are just as Celtic as Irishmen, which is fitting because the first people to belt called "Scots" were Celts who immigrated from Eire to Alba and then intermarried with the Picts. I question that David,I speak Gaelic.When I translate into English I use the English language not the Irish idiom. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FYI, people don't speak Gaelic. Instead, they have the Gaelic. Those who have the Gaelic know what I am talking about. Plus, one can have a Celtic background without being Irish. Scotsmen are just as Celtic as Irishmen, which is fitting because the first people to belt called "Scots" were Celts who immigrated from Eire to Alba and then intermarried with the Picts. I question that David,I speak Gaelic.When I translate into English I use the English language not the Irish idiom. When using the Gaelic language, do you say, "I speak Gaelic" or do you say, "I have the Gaelic"? What I wrote earlier was told to me by people who have the Gaelic. The idiom is one used by Scottish people, too. Remember, Gaelic is the language of the Scots, too. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
My heritage is English/Irish/German/Dutch
But that is just heritage My culture is American (more specific Texan) I love America because we have all kinds of people and cultures here |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
Frankk1950
on
Fri 02/19/16 04:49 PM
|
|
FYI, people don't speak Gaelic. Instead, they have the Gaelic. Those who have the Gaelic know what I am talking about. Plus, one can have a Celtic background without being Irish. Scotsmen are just as Celtic as Irishmen, which is fitting because the first people to belt called "Scots" were Celts who immigrated from Eire to Alba and then intermarried with the Picts. I question that David,I speak Gaelic.When I translate into English I use the English language not the Irish idiom. What I wrote earlier was told to me by people who have the Gaelic. The idiom is one used by Scottish people, too. Remember, Gaelic is the language of the Scots, too. When using the Gaelic language, do you say, "I speak Gaelic" or do you say, "I have the Gaelic"? When speaking Gaelic the question is "Do you have Gaelic" Translated word for word The answer is " I have Gaelic" word for word Answering in the English language it makes more sense to say I speak English. Someone also referred to Eire, this is like referring to Greece as Hellas.When speaking English the country is Ireland and Greece. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
are people forgetting to post BELOW the last /quote?
|
|
|
|
|
