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Topic: Robert E. Lee - terrorist, claims New Orleans city council
Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/17/15 08:12 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Thu 12/17/15 08:13 PM
Folks, the Confederacy came into existence because the Southern states lost control over Congress, and Southerners feared that legislation enacted by Northern politicians would result in the end of slavery.

Anyway, it is up to the citizens of New Orleans to decide what to do with their public property. Outsiders really have no business meddling.

Rock's photo
Thu 12/17/15 08:21 PM
Mayor Mitch...
Isn't he related to the dumb heifer who was governor during Katrina?

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Thu 12/17/15 08:40 PM
Edited by RebelArcher on Thu 12/17/15 08:44 PM

Mayor Mitch...
Isn't he related to the dumb heifer who was governor during Katrina?

He was her Lt Gov....and he is the brother of Proud Mary Landriue...both offspring of former NOLA mayor Moon Landrieu.

Ray Nagin was the NOLA Mayor during Katrina. He is currently in federal prison. Mr Chocolate city himself.
I wont even go into slick Willie Jefferson...of the $90 grand in his freezer fame....but lets bltch about statues in NOLA laugh

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Thu 12/17/15 08:40 PM
keep taking away the things that have changed us, and remind us what not to do , and made us grow ....
and we will be forced to walk down that same path again
to try and learn again

what is the difference between a flower and a weed ?
the persons outlook
<shrug>

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Thu 12/17/15 09:36 PM
Robert E. Lee - terrorist, claims New Orleans city council

Nowhere in the OP is there a city council claim that Robert E. Lee was a terrorist.

Seems there are 2 stories.

1. City council votes to take down a statue of a civil war era icon in order to replace it with something that better represents the city and causes less public disorder or fighting.

2. Other people, like a jazz musician, believe Robert E. Lee is all sorts of horrible.

From this article
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/new-orleans-city-counil-confederate-monuments-vote.html?_r=0
The New Orleans City Council voted 6 to 1 to remove four Confederate monuments after a heated monthslong debate, declaring the Civil War-era statues and an obelisk to be “public nuisances.”

At best the council recognizes the statues are going to cause problems if they continue to be in places of prominence.

That's a far cry from calling Robert E. Lee a terrorist.

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Thu 12/17/15 09:48 PM

These idiots are rewriting history.


Yeah, they should rewrite history by pretending that the Confederates fought for a noble cause.

Fighting to preserve the enslavement of black Americans is nothing to be honored.

Anyway, what is happening in New Orleans may be unnecessary, but it is still harmless, since the people depicted by the statues will remain in the history books, and their images will remain in museums.


The North didn't want to free the slaves either!

And you might want to check YOUR history!

The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery. Freeing the slaves was simply a result!

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Thu 12/17/15 09:54 PM
and for the others here that don't know history, Louisiana was one of the first 8 states to secede...yawn

Rock's photo
Thu 12/17/15 09:57 PM


Mayor Mitch...
Isn't he related to the dumb heifer who was governor during Katrina?

He was her Lt Gov....and he is the brother of Proud Mary Landriue...both offspring of former NOLA mayor Moon Landrieu.

Ray Nagin was the NOLA Mayor during Katrina. He is currently in federal prison. Mr Chocolate city himself.
I wont even go into slick Willie Jefferson...of the $90 grand in his freezer fame....but lets bltch about statues in NOLA laugh


I'll wager they're all students of Perez. :laughing:

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Fri 12/18/15 09:06 AM
Want to see a real terrorist in the civil war?



can anyone name him?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 12/18/15 09:16 AM

Want to see a real terrorist in the civil war?



can anyone name him?


lol...sherman

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Fri 12/18/15 01:17 PM
MEah, no, Sherman was only rewritten as a "terrorist" by Confederate Apologists.

Actually, the nasty stuff attributed to Sherman was both exaggerated, and embellished.

The Civil War was the first Modern war, in many ways. Part of that included targeting the enemy's physical ability to fight, as well as his soldiers. The wild claims that Sherman directed his men to rape and pillage at will, are dead false.

Pretending that Sherman was the devil incarnate, is part and parcel of the modern pro-Southern rewrite of history, that also tries (in vein) to hide the fact that the entire Southern rebellion was because they wanted to remain slave states, and feared that their relative loss of power to the non-slave states, would eventually mean that slavery would be ended.

So they pretend the whole thing was over "states rights." And they pretend that Southern armies were carefully polite at all times (despite raiding the north and stealing what they could while there), and that Sherman was all about plunder.

Just lies.

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Fri 12/18/15 02:19 PM

MEah, no, Sherman was only rewritten as a "terrorist" by Confederate Apologists.

Actually, the nasty stuff attributed to Sherman was both exaggerated, and embellished.

The Civil War was the first Modern war, in many ways. Part of that included targeting the enemy's physical ability to fight, as well as his soldiers. The wild claims that Sherman directed his men to rape and pillage at will, are dead false.

Pretending that Sherman was the devil incarnate, is part and parcel of the modern pro-Southern rewrite of history, that also tries (in vein) to hide the fact that the entire Southern rebellion was because they wanted to remain slave states, and feared that their relative loss of power to the non-slave states, would eventually mean that slavery would be ended.

So they pretend the whole thing was over "states rights." And they pretend that Southern armies were carefully polite at all times (despite raiding the north and stealing what they could while there), and that Sherman was all about plunder.

Just lies.


actually, the main reason for the civil was was government infringement on the states... the states that seceded was because they wanted to set their own laws, not what the government told them to set...

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Fri 12/18/15 02:39 PM


MEah, no, Sherman was only rewritten as a "terrorist" by Confederate Apologists.

Actually, the nasty stuff attributed to Sherman was both exaggerated, and embellished.

The Civil War was the first Modern war, in many ways. Part of that included targeting the enemy's physical ability to fight, as well as his soldiers. The wild claims that Sherman directed his men to rape and pillage at will, are dead false.

Pretending that Sherman was the devil incarnate, is part and parcel of the modern pro-Southern rewrite of history, that also tries (in vein) to hide the fact that the entire Southern rebellion was because they wanted to remain slave states, and feared that their relative loss of power to the non-slave states, would eventually mean that slavery would be ended.

So they pretend the whole thing was over "states rights." And they pretend that Southern armies were carefully polite at all times (despite raiding the north and stealing what they could while there), and that Sherman was all about plunder.

Just lies.


actually, the main reason for the civil was was government infringement on the states... the states that seceded was because they wanted to set their own laws, not what the government told them to set...


Go back and read the Secession proclamations.

They specifically say that they were seceding to preserve slavery.

The specific "own laws" they wanted to preserve, were those related to maintaining slavery.

Again, saying otherwise, and trying to obscure this by pretending it was all about States Rights, is at the core of the white-wash campaign still being waged today.

Just another fancified lie.


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Fri 12/18/15 02:46 PM



MEah, no, Sherman was only rewritten as a "terrorist" by Confederate Apologists.

Actually, the nasty stuff attributed to Sherman was both exaggerated, and embellished.

The Civil War was the first Modern war, in many ways. Part of that included targeting the enemy's physical ability to fight, as well as his soldiers. The wild claims that Sherman directed his men to rape and pillage at will, are dead false.

Pretending that Sherman was the devil incarnate, is part and parcel of the modern pro-Southern rewrite of history, that also tries (in vein) to hide the fact that the entire Southern rebellion was because they wanted to remain slave states, and feared that their relative loss of power to the non-slave states, would eventually mean that slavery would be ended.

So they pretend the whole thing was over "states rights." And they pretend that Southern armies were carefully polite at all times (despite raiding the north and stealing what they could while there), and that Sherman was all about plunder.

Just lies.


actually, the main reason for the civil was was government infringement on the states... the states that seceded was because they wanted to set their own laws, not what the government told them to set...


Go back and read the Secession proclamations.

They specifically say that they were seceding to preserve slavery.

The specific "own laws" they wanted to preserve, were those related to maintaining slavery.

Again, saying otherwise, and trying to obscure this by pretending it was all about States Rights, is at the core of the white-wash campaign still being waged today.

Just another fancified lie.




look, just believe what you want, quit trying to influence people with your lies...

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Fri 12/18/15 05:19 PM
I know that they have built many monuments to WT Sherman. Heck, we even named a city after him here.bigsmile

Rock's photo
Fri 12/18/15 06:36 PM

I know that they have built many monuments to WT Sherman. Heck, we even named a city after him here.bigsmile


My city was named after Sherman, from Sherman and Peabody.
NOT that azzhat terrorist from the civil war.

bigsmile

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Fri 12/18/15 10:57 PM
I'm sure the coming 2nd. American Revolution will solve all of this!
Whether it s over the 'slavery of the people' or 'infringement of states rights'!!
The victor will be rewriting history I'm sure.........
God Save America.

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