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Topic: Active Shooter In Colorado
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Sun 11/29/15 10:03 AM



If cops are going to unload on any suspect, why not this guy? Shooting 5 cops 4 civilians killing 3 doesn't pose enough threat to police or the public?
Because, you frickin genius, only a rare, small, miniscule, minority of cops are bad. Hell, go ahead and say the perp is alive because he's white. It would be par for your course.


If he wouldn't have surrendered he would have been shot dead.
Yep...police radio traffic confirms snipers were on him....

" Radio traffic from police starting at
4:50 p.m.:

* “He’s going to come out with his
hands up.”

* “He’s standing up.”

* “Can you confirm he has his
hands clear?”

* “He’s facing down that hallway to
the east, his shoulders down.”

* “Bear, you can back up.”

* “Bear, he is coming out.”


* “We’ve got to take him out if he
has any IED suspicion on him.”

* “Are we in the way of the
snipers?”

* “Z-39, we have one suspect
trained right now.”

* 4:52 p.m.: “We have our suspect
right now. He is alone and by
himself.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/suspect-surrenders-in-colorado-shooting-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/

He obeyed officers commands and lived...shocking to some out here, I know.

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Sun 11/29/15 10:05 AM

If cops are going to unload on any suspect, why not this guy? Shooting 5 cops 4 civilians killing 3 doesn't pose enough threat to police or the public?


Cops didn't "unload" on him, because it happened on
#blacklivesmatterfriday


Hope that clears things up for you.

RustyKitty's photo
Sun 11/29/15 11:23 AM

Is it true he is supposed to be registered as a she? Heresay from my family

If so, I would say, one ugly female..
However, still what happened a terrible tragedy..

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Sun 11/29/15 08:29 PM




If cops are going to unload on any suspect, why not this guy? Shooting 5 cops 4 civilians killing 3 doesn't pose enough threat to police or the public?
Because, you frickin genius, only a rare, small, miniscule, minority of cops are bad. Hell, go ahead and say the perp is alive because he's white. It would be par for your course.


If he wouldn't have surrendered he would have been shot dead.
Yep...police radio traffic confirms snipers were on him....

" Radio traffic from police starting at
4:50 p.m.:

* “He’s going to come out with his
hands up.”

* “He’s standing up.”

* “Can you confirm he has his
hands clear?”

* “He’s facing down that hallway to
the east, his shoulders down.”

* “Bear, you can back up.”

* “Bear, he is coming out.”


* “We’ve got to take him out if he
has any IED suspicion on him.”

* “Are we in the way of the
snipers?”

* “Z-39, we have one suspect
trained right now.”

* 4:52 p.m.: “We have our suspect
right now. He is alone and by
himself.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/suspect-surrenders-in-colorado-shooting-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/

He obeyed officers commands and lived...shocking to some out here, I know.

You're proving my point. He killed three so far, an officer, a man and a woman. He wounded many more. Police sheriffs ATF SWAT were on scene and they couldn't stop 1 guy with no shields or body armor? They could have. That's precisely what SWAT teams are trained and equipped to do and they chose to wait for more victims or the guy to run out of ammo.
Domestic terrorism courtesy of Carly Fiorina, Colorado Springs PD, El Paso County Sheriff's Dept, and ATF. Great job.

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Sun 11/29/15 09:30 PM





If cops are going to unload on any suspect, why not this guy? Shooting 5 cops 4 civilians killing 3 doesn't pose enough threat to police or the public?
Because, you frickin genius, only a rare, small, miniscule, minority of cops are bad. Hell, go ahead and say the perp is alive because he's white. It would be par for your course.


If he wouldn't have surrendered he would have been shot dead.
Yep...police radio traffic confirms snipers were on him....

" Radio traffic from police starting at
4:50 p.m.:

* “He’s going to come out with his
hands up.”

* “He’s standing up.”

* “Can you confirm he has his
hands clear?”

* “He’s facing down that hallway to
the east, his shoulders down.”

* “Bear, you can back up.”

* “Bear, he is coming out.”


* “We’ve got to take him out if he
has any IED suspicion on him.”

* “Are we in the way of the
snipers?”

* “Z-39, we have one suspect
trained right now.”

* 4:52 p.m.: “We have our suspect
right now. He is alone and by
himself.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/suspect-surrenders-in-colorado-shooting-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/

He obeyed officers commands and lived...shocking to some out here, I know.

You're proving my point. He killed three so far, an officer, a man and a woman. He wounded many more. Police sheriffs ATF SWAT were on scene and they couldn't stop 1 guy with no shields or body armor? They could have. That's precisely what SWAT teams are trained and equipped to do and they chose to wait for more victims or the guy to run out of ammo.
Domestic terrorism courtesy of Carly Fiorina, Colorado Springs PD, El Paso County Sheriff's Dept, and ATF. Great job.
And once again, you prove you dont know what the hell youre talking about. Hostage, or possible hostage situation....look it up genius.
But hey...tis the season so Merry Christmas and heres a present for ya....



....and no "clip" to trip ya up drinker

germanchoclate1981's photo
Mon 11/30/15 03:16 AM






If cops are going to unload on any suspect, why not this guy? Shooting 5 cops 4 civilians killing 3 doesn't pose enough threat to police or the public?
Because, you frickin genius, only a rare, small, miniscule, minority of cops are bad. Hell, go ahead and say the perp is alive because he's white. It would be par for your course.


If he wouldn't have surrendered he would have been shot dead.
Yep...police radio traffic confirms snipers were on him....

" Radio traffic from police starting at
4:50 p.m.:

* “He’s going to come out with his
hands up.”

* “He’s standing up.”

* “Can you confirm he has his
hands clear?”

* “He’s facing down that hallway to
the east, his shoulders down.”

* “Bear, you can back up.”

* “Bear, he is coming out.”


* “We’ve got to take him out if he
has any IED suspicion on him.”

* “Are we in the way of the
snipers?”

* “Z-39, we have one suspect
trained right now.”

* 4:52 p.m.: “We have our suspect
right now. He is alone and by
himself.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/suspect-surrenders-in-colorado-shooting-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/

He obeyed officers commands and lived...shocking to some out here, I know.

You're proving my point. He killed three so far, an officer, a man and a woman. He wounded many more. Police sheriffs ATF SWAT were on scene and they couldn't stop 1 guy with no shields or body armor? They could have. That's precisely what SWAT teams are trained and equipped to do and they chose to wait for more victims or the guy to run out of ammo.
Domestic terrorism courtesy of Carly Fiorina, Colorado Springs PD, El Paso County Sheriff's Dept, and ATF. Great job.
And once again, you prove you dont know what the hell youre talking about. Hostage, or possible hostage situation....look it up genius.
But hey...tis the season so Merry Christmas and heres a present for ya....



....and no "clip" to trip ya up drinker

Nope I know exactly what I'm talking about. The CSPD said in a
news conference that El Paso County Sheriff's were brought in because there was an officer involved shooting per their SOP. ATF and SWAT were brought in to end the hostage situation, which normally isn't handled by first responders because they don't have the training or equipment to move inside under fire and eliminate the threat with as little collateral (civilian) or officer casualties. ATF does sting ops and raids constantly for alcohol tobacco and firearms seizures. They didn't go in so they didn't do specifically what they
were created trained and equipped to do.
Keep your present, try it out and tell me how that works out for you. If you really want to give me a present crawl your racist *** back into whatever swamp you came from take a deep breath and hold it.

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Mon 11/30/15 06:55 AM
Nope I know exactly what I'm talking about.
I beg to differ....


If you really want to
give me a present crawl your racist *** back
into whatever swamp you came from take a
deep breath and hold it.
Racist? Nooooo, Im a pragmatist.
Your sole reason for posting in this thread was to disparage law enforcement by somehow painting a picture that theyre racist because they didnt kill the white man dead like they did the Mike Browns and Freddie Grays of the world....when, in fact, if the Mike Browns and Freddie Grays...and hell, even Laquan McDonald...wouldve obeyed commands, they would be alive today.
You have an agenda...you want to excuse bad behavior by a handful of black youths by throwing it off on a handful of alledgedly bad cops. These Colorado cops aint it. They did their job...they ran TOWARD gunfire...they STOPPED a situation BEFORE any further loss of life happened.
And all you wanna do is spin it to fit your fantasy and excuse making because actually looking into the mirror terrifies you. Its really that simple....youre not fooling anyone...and continue with your racism insults...its all you got.

germanchoclate1981's photo
Mon 11/30/15 11:20 PM

Nope I know exactly what I'm talking about.
I beg to differ....


If you really want to
give me a present crawl your racist *** back
into whatever swamp you came from take a
deep breath and hold it.
Racist? Nooooo, Im a pragmatist.
Your sole reason for posting in this thread was to disparage law enforcement by somehow painting a picture that theyre racist because they didnt kill the white man dead like they did the Mike Browns and Freddie Grays of the world....when, in fact, if the Mike Browns and Freddie Grays...and hell, even Laquan McDonald...wouldve obeyed commands, they would be alive today.
You have an agenda...you want to excuse bad behavior by a handful of black youths by throwing it off on a handful of alledgedly bad cops. These Colorado cops aint it. They did their job...they ran TOWARD gunfire...they STOPPED a situation BEFORE any further loss of life happened.
And all you wanna do is spin it to fit your fantasy and excuse making because actually looking into the mirror terrifies you. Its really that simple....youre not fooling anyone...and continue with your racism insults...its all you got.


BS. How many people did Mike Brown shoot or kill? 0
How many people did Freddie Gray shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did Sandra Bland shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did Eric Garner shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did the guy at Wal-Mart trying to buy a pellet gun shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did Walter Scott shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did the kid parked in the fast food parking lot shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did Mansour Ball-Bey shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did the kid in the wheelchair shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did Samuel Dubose shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did Laquan McDonald shoot stab or kill? 0
How many people did Tamir Rice shoot stab or kill? 0

How many people did Dear shoot or kill? 9 wounded 3 dead INCLUDING 5 law enforcement officials.

12 - 1 for 'suspects'
0 - 12 for shot stabbed or killed.
Who is more dangerous to the GOOD officers or the public?
I think and speak for myself I don't need you to, and you're not qualified to do so.
My point is ALL the necessary agencies firepower protection SWAT was there and they waited. They didn't really go in forcibly and neutralize the threat that proved to be deadly reckless and indiscriminate in his target selection. That's what SWAT is for. ATF does the same thing. I'm saying the command failed the innocent victims and the GOOD cops who did attempt to go in after this whackjob. One good cop lost his life and 5 more were injured due to a failure to assess the situation and send appropriate force under armor or take the guy out with snipers which were on the scene.

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Tue 12/01/15 09:40 AM
My point is ALL the necessary agencies
firepower protection SWAT was there and they
waited. They didn't really go in forcibly and
neutralize the threat that proved to be deadly
reckless and indiscriminate in his target
selection. That's what SWAT is for. ATF does
the same thing. I'm saying the command failed
the innocent victims and the GOOD cops who
did attempt to go in after this whackjob. One
good cop lost his life and 5 more were injured
due to a failure to assess the situation and
send appropriate force under armor or take the
guy out with snipers which were on the scene.
I could blow this, and your little list of dindus up point by point...but this is quicker...listen carefully....ready? Here it goes...

WHY SHOULD I, OR ANYONE ELSE LISTEN SERIOUSLY TO A GUY THAT DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLIP AND A MAGAZINE?

Oh..and the Mike Brown reference? rofl rofl rofl

You SO entertain me GC...now type another long "twisting in the wind" post while I go pop some popcorn.

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Tue 12/01/15 10:15 AM

and wouldn't you know it,Obama is already making political Hay from the Tragedy!:angry: sick
He did it again in Paris...didnt have a teleprompter so he made another dumbazz remark....


"" “With respect to Planned Parenthood,
obviously, my heart goes out to the families
of those impacted,” Obama said in response
to a reporter’s question. “I mean, I say this
every time we’ve got one of these mass
shootings; this just doesn’t happen in other
countries.”""
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-speaking-in-paris-mass-shootings-dont-happen-in-other-countries/

....said it in PARIS....What an embarrassment....does he even Charlie Hebdo? Does he even Nov 13th, 2015? Sumbltch has too many agendas to keep straight....

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Tue 12/01/15 10:53 AM
one happened in Zug,Switzerland!

The Zug massacre took place on September 27, 2001 in the city of Zug (Canton of Zug, Switzerland) in the canton's parliament. Fourteen people were shot dead by Friedrich Leibacher, who killed himself shortly after the crime.[1]

In the years before the massacre, Leibacher drew attention to himself by an intense use of lawsuits. These were dismissed, so he assumed he was being persecuted by the state, thus he felt he had to resort to the crime.[2]

He was armed with a civilian version of a Stgw 90 (Swiss Army assault rifle),[3] a SIG Sauer pistol, a pump-action shotgun, and a revolver, and he wore a home-made police vest. Leibacher was able to enter the parliament building without problem.[4]

He started shooting in the hall where the members of parliament were meeting. He killed three members of the Executive Council ("Regierungsräte") and eleven members of the legislature ("Kantonsräte"), and wounded 18 politicians and journalists, some heavily. He fired 91 rounds. Then, he ignited a homemade bomb, and then took his own life.[4] His main intended target was the Cantonal Minister Robert Bisig, who was unharmed. Leibacher left a suicide note titled "Tag des Zornes für die Zuger Mafia" ("Day of wrath for the Zug mafia"), which referenced his belief there was a plot against him.[4]

This assault was the first of its type in Switzerland and one of the Canton of Zug's darkest days.[5] Worldwide, especially in the European Union and in the German Bundestag, there was shock at the attack.

WIKI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zug_massacre

and on my friggen Birthday too!grumble

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Tue 12/01/15 03:45 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Tue 12/01/15 03:58 PM
op what I heard hear say ...of course ... it was personally aimed at plan parenthood ... and mental or not he was a murderer ...and plan parent hood is a legal organization... sure it is easy to call someone mental as to why they do fire upon the innocent ... I believe he new what he was doing and was someone that supports
pro life ... is knowing what your doing mental ... killing all of those that stood in his way ... does not seem so ...being part of a hate group ... and others trying to put this kind of rhetoric into the public's news coming mainly from the GOP with non truths about plan parenthood ... and these supporters have the backing $ ...of these kinds of people already...that supports violence ... he deserves life in a regular prison ... not let him off becouse calling him mental ... not every one is mental that do these kinds of things ... that are a supporters of pro life groups some none violent and some peaceful. and when these kinds of things happen some tend to go for stricter laws for guns but bet the GOP want go for any of that ... so lets call him mental becouse know one in our group of the GOP is taking blood $ ...from these violent groups ... personally I do not want him in a mental facility ... he should spend the rest of his life in jail... since they don't have the death penalty anymore ... an who is calling the kettle black now ... :angry: slaphead my sincere condolences to all of those families ... and may those who died rest in peace ...

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Thu 12/03/15 12:48 AM
Racist? Nooooo, Im a pragmatist.
Your sole reason for posting in this thread was to disparage law enforcement by somehow painting a picture that theyre racist because they didnt kill the white man dead like they did the Mike Browns and Freddie Grays of the world....when, in fact, if the Mike Browns and Freddie Grays...and hell, even Laquan McDonald...wouldve obeyed commands, they would be alive today.
You have an agenda...you want to excuse bad behavior by a handful of black youths by throwing it off on a handful of alledgedly bad cops. These Colorado cops aint it. They did their job...they ran TOWARD gunfire...they STOPPED a situation BEFORE any further loss of life happened.
And all you wanna do is spin it to fit your fantasy and excuse making because actually looking into the mirror terrifies you. Its really that simple....youre not fooling anyone...and continue with your racism insults...its all you got.


Whose Mike Brown reference? Who wrote ^ that? Nothing complicated about a list of people including a guy in a wheelchair and a 19 y/o WHITE kid in SC who were murdered by police officers in a relatively short period of time and that's an incomplete list. If that many 'questionable' killings happen over 10--15 years people remember. When it happens in 2-3 years people don't forget it. You dredge up Mike Brown to and refer to black victims as "dindu nuffin' " and racism insults is all I have? You defend people making swastikas out of feces and racism insults is all I have? They should have splattered this bastard on the nearest wall because he went after innocent defenseless people and tagged 5 cops whose leaders didn't know a crime scene can still be active or what to do when it is. One of those cops died trying to SAVE LIVES without the help of all the assets they had on scene because the leadership failed. That's irrefutable. 5 officers shot by 1 person snipers had a bead on with SWAT waiting for orders and the guy turns himself in? That's a complete failure.

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