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Free means without cost or payment....if someone is paying, it's not free. Just saying That's my point. If a physician works for free, then the physician pays the cost in the forms of labor and supplies. If the government pays for it, then it is actually the tax payers who are paying for it. Think about the first line in the first post: "If you had an extra 15% taken off your paycheque so that you could have free health care ..." In such a scenario, you are paying for health care by giving up 15% of your pay. Exactly. They would make money if someone doesn't need the care. They pay every year but do they get the money back if they don't need any care? No. At least with private health insurance, one would pay less than 15% of one's pay. |
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Uh huh, and how much of the premiums we pay now go to insurance company bureaucracy, profits, and CEO salaries? Now add in co-pays, deductibles, out of pocket minimums, sky high drug costs. Only uneducated idiots would oppose a single payer health system. Part of the difference is that our hospitals are not in it to make money... there are no CEO's..Our health system is pretty much 'not for profit'. Hospitals are not owned by a business or congolmerate... You will not be turned away from a hospital for treatment.. yes, you may have to wait, but you'll get seen by a physician. and you'll get tests done And get this... when you turn 65, you can get even more benefits, like (almost free)glasses and even (almost free) false teeth - (they pay up to a maximum of $2,000.00 every 2 years for you)..free eye exams as well.. OP is correct, it is not free health care... it is paid through tax dollars... the Gov't funds the programs. Yep, glad to live here. |
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OP is correct, it is not free health care... it is paid through tax dollars... the Gov't funds the programs. Yep, glad to live here. Correction: Tax payers fund the programs. Are you a tax payer? |
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OP is correct, it is not free health care... it is paid through tax dollars... the Gov't funds the programs. Yep, glad to live here. Correction: Tax payers fund the programs. Are you a tax payer? I work, ergo, I am a tax payer. Anyone who works is a tax payer. Even if you collect unemployment funds or our federal pension you are a tax payer, as tax dollars comes off automatically And no I don't have a problem that my tax dollar helps someone who does not work but who may be sick |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 11/20/15 09:36 PM
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Uh huh, and how much of the premiums we pay now go to insurance company bureaucracy, profits, and CEO salaries? Now add in co-pays, deductibles, out of pocket minimums, sky high drug costs. Only uneducated idiots would oppose a single payer health system. Part of the difference is that our hospitals are not in it to make money... there are no CEO's..Our health system is pretty much 'not for profit'. Hospitals are not owned by a business or congolmerate... You will not be turned away from a hospital for treatment.. yes, you may have to wait, but you'll get seen by a physician. and you'll get tests done And get this... when you turn 65, you can get even more benefits, like (almost free)glasses and even (almost free) false teeth - (they pay up to a maximum of $2,000.00 every 2 years for you)..free eye exams as well.. OP is correct, it is not free health care... it is paid through tax dollars... the Gov't funds the programs. Yep, glad to live here. This is not necessarily true today. Many of the community hospitals failed long ago due to govt intervention. Most are corporate or privately run these days. Many are "turned away" or denied treatment today because their plan will not cover needed treatments, the hospital, or their Dr The Oblowme lies incarnate! And to think that most of the money doesn't go to the insuranve companies, execs, CEOs, and those corps themselves is ludicrous! Even the veterans Tri-Core was affected.... and subject to the greed of administrators and staff |
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Uh huh, and how much of the premiums we pay now go to insurance company bureaucracy, profits, and CEO salaries? Now add in co-pays, deductibles, out of pocket minimums, sky high drug costs. Only uneducated idiots would oppose a single payer health system. Part of the difference is that our hospitals are not in it to make money... there are no CEO's..Our health system is pretty much 'not for profit'. Hospitals are not owned by a business or congolmerate... You will not be turned away from a hospital for treatment.. yes, you may have to wait, but you'll get seen by a physician. and you'll get tests done And get this... when you turn 65, you can get even more benefits, like (almost free)glasses and even (almost free) false teeth - (they pay up to a maximum of $2,000.00 every 2 years for you)..free eye exams as well.. OP is correct, it is not free health care... it is paid through tax dollars... the Gov't funds the programs. Yep, glad to live here. This is not necessarily true today. Many of the community hospitals failed long ago due to govt intervention. Most are corporate or privately run these days. Many are "turned away" or denied treatment today because their plan will not cover needed treatments, the hospital, or their Dr The Oblowme lies incarnate! And to think that most of the money doesn't go to the insuranve companies, execs, CEOs, and those corps themselves is ludicrous! Even the veterans Tri-Core was affected.... and subject to the greed of administrators and staff Perhaps you didn't hear me... With few exceptions, Canadian hospitals exist as not-for-profit entities.[1] Ownership usually resides with community-based not-for-profit corporations, religious organizations, or (rarely) with municipal governments or universities. Apart from psychiatric hospitals, provincial/territorial governments rarely own hospitals. In all cases, however, the vast majority of hospital revenues come from a single funder – the provincial/territorial department of health. Apparently different hospitals get different amounts of funding because their needs are different (rural vs city, for example), but money all comes from tax dollars and dispersed to the Provinces.. again, No CEO's, Insurance Companies,.. The US have their own way of thinking..and doing things.it would totally have to be re-structured and no way would that happen.. |
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Rut roh...did we scare off those that think it is wonderful?
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Most people with intelligence knows paying into health care isn't free. And most of those countries doesn't have the illegal immigration problem we have to be able to reply intelligently without our issues
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