From the NAGR



Gun control is a failure!

If there’s one thing the recent terror attacks in Paris proved -- not just to those of us in the U.S. who have been fighting for gun rights all along, but to the entire international community -- it’s that disarming citizens only serves to create populations of victims.

In fact, long before the attacks in Paris, in the aftermath of a similar terror event in Kenya, INTERPOL Secretary Ronald Noble concluded:

“What I’m saying is it makes police around the world question their views on gun control. It makes citizens question their views on gun control. You have to ask yourself, ‘Is an armed citizenry more necessary now than it was in the past with an evolving threat of terrorism?’ This is something that has to be discussed.”

The international community is once again faced with the all-too tangible reality that their vision of a gun-free utopian society is nothing more than a pipe dream.

Of course, here at the National Association for Gun Rights, we’ve recognized this simple fact all along. And it’s why we’ve fought tooth and nail to defend our Second Amendment rights -- without compromise.

But while this comes as no shock to you and me, you can bet that the anti-gun crowd will be working overtime to explain away the obvious connection between the success of terrorism and their dangerous “gun-free” zones.

It seems they would rather we all be victims of terrorists and their radical agendas, just to preserve their illusion of “safety.”

But you and I know that our right to bear arms is all that stands between us and the terror the world just witnessed in France.

Whether it is a group of terrorists or a single homicidal madman, one part of the story never changes . . . these attacks all happen in so-called “gun-free” zones.

ever was,but that won't stop the Hoplophobes!

"Gun control" does not equal "crime control," but Michael Bloomberg's puppets in the groups with names using words like "Gun Sense" and "Gun Safety" will never accept that.

It's more about "control" than about guns, anyway.

tHE TRUTH IS WITH OR WITHOUT GUNS WE ARE AT RISK AS HUMANS CAN MAKE THESE A REALITY REGARDLESS OF LAW OR WISHFUL THINKING ON BOTH SIDES OF GUN CONTROL OR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS...

This is another very weak argument. All you have to do to recognize how truly meaningless it is, is to realize that where there is ZERO GUN CONTROL, that such terrorism is far MORE rampant.

So, no, as usual, trying to turn this vicious tragedy into a crass personal political ploy, is just vile.

Saying Gun Control hasn't worked, or is a failure, is functionally a lie, because actual Gun Control HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED. If it had been, then this mess in Paris would not have happened.

Now, this is not to say that I personally want or support true Gun Control, because I'm not any more willing to do what it would take to accomplish it than anyone else is. But that's not the point. The point is, that claiming this or any similar mess "proves" anything one way or another about some side issue, is ingenuous in the extreme.

Besides, you open the door to the other side pointing out that if an instance of terrorism occurs in an area with Gun FREEDOM (which it has done, repeatedly) that therefore Gun Ownership has been proven to be a failure.

umm... Paris is one of the strictest gun control cities in the world...

and don't forget about Nazi Germany in the 1930's... how did that work out for them?

B... bu... but,
The libtards want us all to believe that gun control/confiscation, is good for us.

Excellent point and well spoken.

Why is it that simple logic evades the folks who listen to the news and get their information from the hysteria that get's promulgated by it? Even a cursory overview of history will prove that taking guns away from honest law abiding people increases crime exponentially.

Of course when it comes to politics and ideology common sense isn't an issue. It's an affliction. Neither is honesty, it's a miracle.

Paris doesn't have real gun control, they have the same sort of half baked crap some areas of the US have. Washington DC used to have that kind of so-called gun control, and a high rate of murder by gun at the same time. Because it WASN'T actual gun control, it was partial nominal limitation on gun sales and purchases in a narrow area, surrounded by places with little or no control, and with no infrastructure at all provided to actually enforce it.

Nazi Germany armed their citizens like crazy. How DID that work for them?

REAL gun control, which I do NOT favor, requires that the government actually control guns. That means checkpoints, home inspections, and on and on. No one has done that. They've only set minor limits on who can SELL guns.

My point is also that in places where there has been NO effort of any kind to limit weapon ownership/ availability, that terrorism and death is a daily occurrence. Pretending that allowing everyone to be armed will result in only the intelligent, emotionally balanced portion of your population to act, is idiocy, and is NOT supported by ANY historical precedent.

Especially not the Nazis.

You surely must mean those parts of the world so poverty stricken that warlords control over the masses, because it surely doesn't fit any modern culturally advanced society or city exercising gun regulation today.

The USA is not some tea swilling, marble mouthed, bastion of liberal ideology....YET.... and some care enough about it to guarantee it stays that way!

And you're wrong about Nazi Germany! Total gun confiscation was enacted before the Nazis ever came to real power! How? Why? Because the people felt they had nothing to fear!

We're already there! How does your 4th and 1st amendment rights feel these days? Lose our 2nd amendment rights and you might as well kiss them ALL goodbye!

But proponents are never ever ever going to stop trying.
Wait until technology catches up.

Look at S&W and their internal locks.
Those aren't going away even though they screw up the gun.

Give it a few years.
Biometrics, fingerprint readers in the trigger, or rfid chips in the slide or grip.


Paris did not prove that.
Arizona has extremely loose carry laws.
You don't even need a permit to carry concealed anymore.
But not very many people actually carry guns.
Maybe more than most states, but still, you go places and the majority of people just don't carry.

Look at the Gabrielle Gifford assassination attempt by Jared Loughner.
Guy killed 6 people, wounded around 15 others, and was stopped by citizens without guns. Tackled, detained, citizen arrested until deputies came over.

You want to create "populations of victims" keep war at a distance so it's just something you see on the news, have a government working towards protecting everyone from any kind of adversity whatsoever, and completely reliant on police and a legal system to handle all of their problems.

"Population of victims" has little to do with taking something away from people, but giving them something that only offers the illusion of helping them.
People will give guns up themselves and make themselves victims for the illusion.


This is propaganda.
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Most "gun free zones" were "gun free zones" before they were labeled or mandated to be "gun free zones."

It's usually the aberrant use of a gun where people just don't carry guns that surprises people to say "no guns allowed!"
"Gun free zones" are basically the proper use stickers on the side of a lawn mower "don't operate drunk. Do not use as a weed wacker."

This is the tool of conditioning.... label it, make it look official, people train to accept it

Look what has happened to education! Let's give it an official title and theme that's unassuming to the masses....Common Core

And let's not get into what we got stuck with on healthcare lies!

Almost 1/2 the nation dependent on some type of govt controlled entitlement! What happens when they decide we can no longer afford it? Only the strong or prepared will survive while govt sits back and exercises authority while doing nothing..... population control at its finest.... and they had to do nothing but implement it thru policy and training...or "conditioning" in a word!