Several folks here are still completely missing the point of nations respecting each other, and what a lack of such respect leads to.

And it's not JUST a matter of the United States, and I never said it was. It's a matter of a NUMBER of nations joining together, and telling the Iranians that they don't have the right to decide the course of their own country's future.

That has nothing at all to do with whether or not any of us approves of anything another independent nation does or doesn't do.

Again, this form of international RESPECT has nothing at all to do with APPROVAL. I say again, since more than one person keeps missing this: respecting another nation has nothing to do with approving of them.

Again, this is a mechanical thing. A direct result of refusing to RESPECT that other nations can decide how to conduct their own internal affairs without consulting the world at large, and worse, actively working to prevent them from living as they wish to in their own lands, always tends to have the natural result that said people will become angry, and will resist or even attack in return.

This mess wasn't created recently. It goes back a very long ways. Each side is reacting again and again to the other, and restarting the hostilities over and over again. Repeating the anger and reciting the past grievances accomplishes nothing but renewal of the hostilities. Each side's arrogance is cited as proof that the other is entirely justified in anything at all that they do in turn.

Chief Big Ear and Brave Horse-Face really got shortchanged on that Deal!

Or ... he got exactly what he wanted.

<---- burning incense, waving a smoking sage wand around to cleanse the lack of respect from the international body politic, so that we may all love each other, hold hands and sing Cumbaya. (rolls eyes)

Pfffft. Instead, lights a Camel with no filter, reaches for a coffee made by an old man in the Nostalji Doner coffee house in Ankara, and horks up a loogie for world peace.

There's one way to start your day....

am talking about a dynamic of human
behavior that every person so far telling me I
am wrong about, is actively proving me dead
right about, by how they respond.

would ANY of you righteous or
indignant people here,