Topic: unedited V putin CBS interview... what 60 minutes left out | |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Wed 09/30/15 11:38 AM
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Well no big surprise CBS edits the interview to make Putin look like the bad guy. Obama is CBS's boy, he has to be protected. Putin quite correctly says that Syria and a small militia are the only ones fighting ISIS because Obama is merely dabbling around the edges. Kurds? They need weapons, in appreciable numbers, and of good quality. We don't arm them sufficiently AND now they are being given MRAP vehicles with no armor to protect the occupants against RPG's. Bombings? The air force drops 8 bombs a day while the Syrian airforce conducts 10 times the sorties. Drone strikes? Yeah, the occasional strike on higher value targets, but these guys have already voted on the next 4-5 layers of command structure should they be taken out. Our vaunted 'rebel' force trained to take on the Assad regime? They cost half a billion dollars, generated a force of 5 guys, and all the weapons they were given, went to the enemy! Sooooo, compared to THAT stunning record, I am surprised 60 Minutes could use anything that didn't make Putin look like Patton! seems that russia has told the US to not fly in syria now... http://www.debka.com/article/24915/First-US-Russian-air-clash-builds-up-as-Moscow-orders-US-planes-to-exit-Syrian-air-space yes knew that would happen. I believe china is on their way with an air craft carrier. USA n Israel best heed that warning. Russia had no problems destroying keiv air force trying to bomb cilivians. where in the hell did you get anything from Israel outa that? i guess there's no topic that doesn't involve Israel... seems that this would benefit Israel, if anything... Israel has been doing airstrikes along with turkey. do you guys keep up with what's going on???? USA Israel turkey have been doing airstrikes in Syria. USA is only doing this for Israel. USA has no business in Syria. hamas has asked Lebanon to stop helping Syria. of course since hamas works for Israel. as far as Putin yes very down to earth man. study him he is incredible. I'm sure Moscow has warned Israel no fly in Syria. go bomb I rag Isis. so why did you just mention Israel and not Turkey? |
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Well no big surprise CBS edits the interview to make Putin look like the bad guy. Obama is CBS's boy, he has to be protected. Putin quite correctly says that Syria and a small militia are the only ones fighting ISIS because Obama is merely dabbling around the edges. Kurds? They need weapons, in appreciable numbers, and of good quality. We don't arm them sufficiently AND now they are being given MRAP vehicles with no armor to protect the occupants against RPG's. Bombings? The air force drops 8 bombs a day while the Syrian airforce conducts 10 times the sorties. Drone strikes? Yeah, the occasional strike on higher value targets, but these guys have already voted on the next 4-5 layers of command structure should they be taken out. Our vaunted 'rebel' force trained to take on the Assad regime? They cost half a billion dollars, generated a force of 5 guys, and all the weapons they were given, went to the enemy! Sooooo, compared to THAT stunning record, I am surprised 60 Minutes could use anything that didn't make Putin look like Patton! seems that russia has told the US to not fly in syria now... http://www.debka.com/article/24915/First-US-Russian-air-clash-builds-up-as-Moscow-orders-US-planes-to-exit-Syrian-air-space yes knew that would happen. I believe china is on their way with an air craft carrier. USA n Israel best heed that warning. Russia had no problems destroying keiv air force trying to bomb cilivians. where in the hell did you get anything from Israel outa that? i guess there's no topic that doesn't involve Israel... seems that this would benefit Israel, if anything... Israel has been doing airstrikes along with turkey. do you guys keep up with what's going on???? USA Israel turkey have been doing airstrikes in Syria. USA is only doing this for Israel. USA has no business in Syria. hamas has asked Lebanon to stop helping Syria. of course since hamas works for Israel. as far as Putin yes very down to earth man. study him he is incredible. I'm sure Moscow has warned Israel no fly in Syria. go bomb I rag Isis. OMG,direct Pipeline into the Kremlin,hmm? Fact is,Russia can't afford to lose another Client,after Iraq hung Saddam Insane! huh. irag dumped Obama. ordered weapons from Putin. Russia has military in irag. iraq didn't kill hussiem USA did. direct pipeline??? I don't watch Fox news lol. |
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Well no big surprise CBS edits the interview to make Putin look like the bad guy. Obama is CBS's boy, he has to be protected. Putin quite correctly says that Syria and a small militia are the only ones fighting ISIS because Obama is merely dabbling around the edges. Kurds? They need weapons, in appreciable numbers, and of good quality. We don't arm them sufficiently AND now they are being given MRAP vehicles with no armor to protect the occupants against RPG's. Bombings? The air force drops 8 bombs a day while the Syrian airforce conducts 10 times the sorties. Drone strikes? Yeah, the occasional strike on higher value targets, but these guys have already voted on the next 4-5 layers of command structure should they be taken out. Our vaunted 'rebel' force trained to take on the Assad regime? They cost half a billion dollars, generated a force of 5 guys, and all the weapons they were given, went to the enemy! Sooooo, compared to THAT stunning record, I am surprised 60 Minutes could use anything that didn't make Putin look like Patton! seems that russia has told the US to not fly in syria now... http://www.debka.com/article/24915/First-US-Russian-air-clash-builds-up-as-Moscow-orders-US-planes-to-exit-Syrian-air-space yes knew that would happen. I believe china is on their way with an air craft carrier. USA n Israel best heed that warning. Russia had no problems destroying keiv air force trying to bomb cilivians. where in the hell did you get anything from Israel outa that? i guess there's no topic that doesn't involve Israel... seems that this would benefit Israel, if anything... Israel has been doing airstrikes along with turkey. do you guys keep up with what's going on???? USA Israel turkey have been doing airstrikes in Syria. USA is only doing this for Israel. USA has no business in Syria. hamas has asked Lebanon to stop helping Syria. of course since hamas works for Israel. as far as Putin yes very down to earth man. study him he is incredible. I'm sure Moscow has warned Israel no fly in Syria. go bomb I rag Isis. OMG,direct Pipeline into the Kremlin,hmm? Fact is,Russia can't afford to lose another Client,after Iraq hung Saddam Insane! huh. irag dumped Obama. ordered weapons from Putin. Russia has military in irag. iraq didn't kill hussiem USA did. direct pipeline??? I don't watch Fox news lol. |
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Edited by
mikeybgood1
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Wed 09/30/15 11:58 AM
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So enthusiastic bicycle crasher John Kerry has signaled the U.S. response to Russian warplanes dropping bombs in Syria by saying he welcomes any positive attacks against ISIS that the Russians may want to be involved in.
The Russians however are attacking the Syrian Free Army who is in direct engagement with Syrian government forces, and not ISIS. Still attempting to meet with the Russians and come to an agreement on how best to de-conflict Syrian airspace of several countries aircraft, the Russians are simply calling the Pentagon and telling them to keep U.S. planes out of Syria when the Russians want to launch attacks. The Pentagon's answer is basically "We're good, and we'll attack whenever we feel like it." Surprisingly Kerry says the U.S. led coalition is poised to 'dramatically accelerate' attacks against ISIS and increase support for the Kurds. So apparently it took over a year, and being shown up by Putin and not even a dozen Russian aircraft to get the 'vast coalition' Obama has created to 'accelerate' things. You know if people weren't dying every day because of the ineptitude of the 'coalition' it might be amusing. Kerry, with his $5000 suits, nicely polished shoes, and mouthfuls of diplo-speak platitudes should be ashamed of himself for the way he has conducted himself in the anti-ISIS campaign. To say how the U.S. intends to work with its allies in the region, and then hangs the Kurds out to dry every day. Obama is not better. He preaches Syrian regime change every effin' day, but never drops bombs on Syrian troops to give the real rebels a chance. How he hands over weapons to the enemy via his Pentagon trained freedom fighters (all 6). How he merely drips training, weapons, and special forces into the region to keep ISIS from getting too far or too much, yet there have been ZERO major offensive campaigns to counterattack ISIS in depth. Sure, you've had the occasional force concentrations to try and retake an oil refinery or part of a city. Where are the strikes with 50-60-100 planes, and dozens of cruise missiles to kill hundreds if not thousands of ISIS members? We seem to think if we pick off a few leaders, the front line troops of ISIS will somehow become scared, drop their guns and go home. Ridiculous. The Obama regime will be the first one on record to have entered several existing or new conflicts without having the expressed intention of actually winning them. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Wed 09/30/15 12:27 PM
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So enthusiastic bicycle crasher John Kerry has signaled the U.S. response to Russian warplanes dropping bombs in Syria by saying he welcomes any positive attacks against ISIS that the Russians may want to be involved in. The Russians however are attacking the Syrian Free Army who is in direct engagement with Syrian government forces, and not ISIS. Still attempting to meet with the Russians and come to an agreement on how best to de-conflict Syrian airspace of several countries aircraft, the Russians are simply calling the Pentagon and telling them to keep U.S. planes out of Syria when the Russians want to launch attacks. The Pentagon's answer is basically "We're good, and we'll attack whenever we feel like it." Surprisingly Kerry says the U.S. led coalition is poised to 'dramatically accelerate' attacks against ISIS and increase support for the Kurds. So apparently it took over a year, and being shown up by Putin and not even a dozen Russian aircraft to get the 'vast coalition' Obama has created to 'accelerate' things. You know if people weren't dying every day because of the ineptitude of the 'coalition' it might be amusing. Kerry, with his $5000 suits, nicely polished shoes, and mouthfuls of diplo-speak platitudes should be ashamed of themselves for the shameful way they have conducted themselves in the anti -ISIS campaign. The Obama regime will be the first one on record to enter several existing or new conflicts, without having the expressed intention of actually winning them. Obama and Kerry are Babes in the Woods! doesn't make Putin one Iota better! |
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So enthusiastic bicycle crasher John Kerry has signaled the U.S. response to Russian warplanes dropping bombs in Syria by saying he welcomes any positive attacks against ISIS that the Russians may want to be involved in. The Russians however are attacking the Syrian Free Army who is in direct engagement with Syrian government forces, and not ISIS. Still attempting to meet with the Russians and come to an agreement on how best to de-conflict Syrian airspace of several countries aircraft, the Russians are simply calling the Pentagon and telling them to keep U.S. planes out of Syria when the Russians want to launch attacks. The Pentagon's answer is basically "We're good, and we'll attack whenever we feel like it." Surprisingly Kerry says the U.S. led coalition is poised to 'dramatically accelerate' attacks against ISIS and increase support for the Kurds. So apparently it took over a year, and being shown up by Putin and not even a dozen Russian aircraft to get the 'vast coalition' Obama has created to 'accelerate' things. You know if people weren't dying every day because of the ineptitude of the 'coalition' it might be amusing. Kerry, with his $5000 suits, nicely polished shoes, and mouthfuls of diplo-speak platitudes should be ashamed of themselves for the shameful way they have conducted themselves in the anti -ISIS campaign. The Obama regime will be the first one on record to enter several existing or new conflicts, without having the expressed intention of actually winning them. the weapon makers don't care who wins... |
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So enthusiastic bicycle crasher John Kerry has signaled the U.S. response to Russian warplanes dropping bombs in Syria by saying he welcomes any positive attacks against ISIS that the Russians may want to be involved in. The Russians however are attacking the Syrian Free Army who is in direct engagement with Syrian government forces, and not ISIS. Still attempting to meet with the Russians and come to an agreement on how best to de-conflict Syrian airspace of several countries aircraft, the Russians are simply calling the Pentagon and telling them to keep U.S. planes out of Syria when the Russians want to launch attacks. The Pentagon's answer is basically "We're good, and we'll attack whenever we feel like it." Surprisingly Kerry says the U.S. led coalition is poised to 'dramatically accelerate' attacks against ISIS and increase support for the Kurds. So apparently it took over a year, and being shown up by Putin and not even a dozen Russian aircraft to get the 'vast coalition' Obama has created to 'accelerate' things. You know if people weren't dying every day because of the ineptitude of the 'coalition' it might be amusing. Kerry, with his $5000 suits, nicely polished shoes, and mouthfuls of diplo-speak platitudes should be ashamed of himself for the way he has conducted himself in the anti-ISIS campaign. To say how the U.S. intends to work with its allies in the region, and then hangs the Kurds out to dry every day. Obama is not better. He preaches Syrian regime change every effin' day, but never drops bombs on Syrian troops to give the real rebels a chance. How he hands over weapons to the enemy via his Pentagon trained freedom fighters (all 6). How he merely drips training, weapons, and special forces into the region to keep ISIS from getting too far or too much, yet there have been ZERO major offensive campaigns to counterattack ISIS in depth. Sure, you've had the occasional force concentrations to try and retake an oil refinery or part of a city. Where are the strikes with 50-60-100 planes, and dozens of cruise missiles to kill hundreds if not thousands of ISIS members? We seem to think if we pick off a few leaders, the front line troops of ISIS will somehow become scared, drop their guns and go home. Ridiculous. The Obama regime will be the first one on record to have entered several existing or new conflicts without having the expressed intention of actually winning them. The President needs the approval or republican congress to declare war. He made the case when they invaded the North and threatened that minority sect that started the 'Muslim Exodus'. The only thing congress was willing to do was air strikes mostly in Iraq until they were pushed back over the border. That brings me to the point experience on the ground proves. You, nor anybody else has any idea who is who until isil started making their black flags. Unless you speak Farsi, even living embedded gives no indication that the people around you are from Baghdad or Mosul or Iran or Jordan or Egypt. All you know with absolute certainty is people are shooting bombing etc. It's not like Risk or Axis and Allies where each National force is easily distinguishable. Plus with the way isil recruits they don't move like a traditional Army would. Some kid joins online they give him a gun and he's anywhere in the middle east or Europe or south, pretty much anywhere but Siberia the North pole and Antarctica. You can't launch a formed 18th century offensive on 6 or 6 continents simultaneously everywhere civilization is against a force that hasn't been recruited or indoctrinated yet. For the ones that are, they're spread out pretty much everywhere. On top of all that, with al-Qaidae, Hezbollah, Assads forces, al-eshebab, all fighting each other.... None of them like us. You can't take out a terrorist organization when 6-10 are operating in the same area. That what Bush never understood before Iraq, during or after the U.S. turned Saddam over to the Iraqis that executed him. Iraq WAS like the middle box in tic tac toe, with Saddam in, everyone else had to find another way around. With him gone that box is an easy connection from any direction. As bad as Saddam was he kept that region in check. |
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