Topic: Hillary Clinton A Victim of Staffers Now???
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Thu 08/13/15 10:37 AM
Oh the "Hillarious" explanation now being offered on the 'Top Secret' e-mails, is that someone on her staff or from her 'inner circle' took the time to strip all references of Top Secret classifications from the items BEFORE Hildabeast saw them.

So here's what I'm supposed to believe.

1) The State Department puts together an intel package with satellite pics, and with analysis being provided by an analyst of an alphabet agency. The contents are according to the State Department NOT secret, because they are saying she never received ANY Top Secret files from them.
2) The NOT Top Secret package is then sent out to Clinton.
3) The routing of the e-mail magically sends it to someone who removes the 'Top Secret' tabs that supposedly WERE NOT ON THE PACKAGE TO START WITH when the State Department sent it.
4) Even though the package was supposed to go to Clinton, she apparently is not on her own distribution list, because she ONLY gets the 'sanitized' email AFTER the State Department sent it to her!

NOW, if you haven't yet choked on that load of crap, it seems we have an issue with the 'server' Hildabeast 'turned over' to the FBI. They actually picked it up from a company in New Jersey who were storing it. An employee says the server is blank because they actually upgraded the server back in 2013!

Really? That's funny, because in March 2015, Hildabeast said she wiped out the 32,000 missing emails in 2014. So those could have only been deleted from the 'new' or upgraded server, since the old one in storage was 'blanked' the year before.

Based on this information, seems to me the FBI has the wrong server, and Hillary is obstructing justice. I guess she'll need to play the "Oh you mean THAT server?" card. So it will take another year or so for us to get that one, likely AFTER she goes through the 2016 nomination and likely even the election.

IF she became President, and some intrepid investigator finds the Top Secret emails, does she just claim executive privilege and lock them up for 50 years?

Hmmmmm

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Thu 08/13/15 11:10 AM

I wouldn't worry too much about Hitlery.....

Her own party is throwing her under the bus of late to make room for Bernie. He's the worst, yet best chance they have this election

She'll probably get a "We told you to keep your mouth shut!" and they'll promise her 2020 or beyond, but she's blown it for this cycle!

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Thu 08/13/15 11:39 AM
Well I won't believe she's toast until she either officially withdraws or is not the nominee after the convention.

Clinton's are political survivors. Someone usually falls on their sword for them. They're already positioning a designated patsy based on this changing the e-mails before she got them scenario.

Based on the latest info, she may be running if for no other reason than the one I suggested, which is being able to keep herself out of jail.

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Thu 08/13/15 03:43 PM
The lying b**ch is an expert at the old shell game. She learned way back during the Whitewater fiasco. A special prosecutor should have been appointed long ago.grumble

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Thu 08/13/15 05:24 PM
Don't hunt what you can't kill

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Thu 08/13/15 06:10 PM

Oh the "Hillarious" explanation now being offered on the 'Top Secret' e-mails, is that someone on her staff or from her 'inner circle' took the time to strip all references of Top Secret classifications from the items BEFORE Hildabeast saw them.

So here's what I'm supposed to believe.

1) The State Department puts together an intel package with satellite pics, and with analysis being provided by an analyst of an alphabet agency. The contents are according to the State Department NOT secret, because they are saying she never received ANY Top Secret files from them.
2) The NOT Top Secret package is then sent out to Clinton.
3) The routing of the e-mail magically sends it to someone who removes the 'Top Secret' tabs that supposedly WERE NOT ON THE PACKAGE TO START WITH when the State Department sent it.
4) Even though the package was supposed to go to Clinton, she apparently is not on her own distribution list, because she ONLY gets the 'sanitized' email AFTER the State Department sent it to her!

NOW, if you haven't yet choked on that load of crap, it seems we have an issue with the 'server' Hildabeast 'turned over' to the FBI. They actually picked it up from a company in New Jersey who were storing it. An employee says the server is blank because they actually upgraded the server back in 2013!

Really? That's funny, because in March 2015, Hildabeast said she wiped out the 32,000 missing emails in 2014. So those could have only been deleted from the 'new' or upgraded server, since the old one in storage was 'blanked' the year before.

Based on this information, seems to me the FBI has the wrong server, and Hillary is obstructing justice. I guess she'll need to play the "Oh you mean THAT server?" card. So it will take another year or so for us to get that one, likely AFTER she goes through the 2016 nomination and likely even the election.

IF she became President, and some intrepid investigator finds the Top Secret emails, does she just claim executive privilege and lock them up for 50 years?

Hmmmmm


Since you insist on phrasing this as a series of angry puerile insults, instead of as a functional factual argument, it's impossible to take any of what you say seriously.

I have seen far too many such diatribes posted about all sorts of political targets, and so far, every single time, when the ACTUAL facts come out, the story is at the least more complex, less open and shut.

Come back when you can make a civil, intelligent and cogent argument, and you might garner some useful respect for it.


mikeybgood1's photo
Thu 08/13/15 10:11 PM
Hmmm. Well I don't need your respect, but you may need someone to sue your school board if they issued you a diploma. What part of this do I need to break out the crayons for you on?

I watched a State Dept spokesman say THEY never sent Hillary Top Secret files. Ok. An extremely dubious claim, but I'll bite. Evidently if State didn't send it, then someone else did then.

In order for Hillary however to get a 'non secret' file, it has been surmised that one of her staff or personal aides scrubbed all references to any Secret tabs. Ok fine. That can ONLY happen if Hillary is NOT on the distribution list of the e-mail that is being sent to her. Whaaattt? IF she's on the distribution list,(for her own incoming email) then she IMMEDIATELY gets a copy of the 'secret' file. Duhhhh. Sending a scrubbed version later doesn't change the fact that even for a minute, she had Secret files on a server that should not have been there before the clean ones shows up.

In order for her to ONLY receive these sanitized files, she can't be sent the originals. So now HOW does a staffer. apparently of their own volition, scrub such files unless they are either willing to be prosecuted for extremely bad judgement, OR they were directed to scrub files before Hillary got them thus maintaining plausible deniability?

Of course, overshadowing all of this is simply the idea of using some common sense. Hillary knows the difference between run of the mill intel, and the 'spooky' stuff being gathered by No Such Agency, Christians In Action, or the NRO. When she opens up an email and sees hi-res Keyhole satellite pics, and other such materials with code word references, and compartmentalized CC lists, she knows this stuff won't be on a Strafor website, or the NY Times front page tomorrow. She knows its sensitive stuff. If she claims not to have realized its actual level of gravitas, and how she should have dealt with it, then that alone should give you pause in electing her. She's too stupid for the gig.

The math on the server seems pretty simple as well. She says that she turned over the server. She didn't. The FBI did not go to her house, knock on the door and have her hand an agent the server. The FBI went to ANOTHER STATE, TO A BUILDING THAT IS NOT A CLINTON HOME, and removed a server that they were told BY AN EMPLOYEE OF THAT COMPANY was blanked out back in 2013. THAT'S A YEAR BEFORE Hillary says she deleted 32,000 emails. So if a BLANK SERVER is sitting in a warehouse since 2013, what server did she delete e-mail from in 2014??

She can only delete those emails in 2014 IF THEY ARE ON A DIFFERENT SERVER, WHICH THE FBI DOES NOT HAVE IN ITS CUSTODY AT THIS TIME.

SO IF I TALK LOUDER AND SLOWER, DOES THAT HELP YOU NOW???? Blind loyalty will not make these problems go away, and will not change the facts as described. Sorry if it hurts you to have to even for a moment entertain the idea that Hillary may not be all sweetness and light, but suck it up Buttercup. She's continually parsed her sentences that she never sent or received documents that were classified Top Secret at the time she had them.

Here's how that works. At 9:00 her aide gets a Top Secret file. At 9:01 Hillary gets the scrubbed version of the file. At 9:02 she sends the info to someone who maybe should not have it, or makes a copy for herself called 'Brownie Recipe with Nuts'. At 9:03 the aide restores the Top Secret tabs. Now, Hillary can honestly say she never sent or received a Top Secret file in this example right? Since the aide gets the original e-mail, everyone else can honestly say they never sent Hillary a Top Secret file, right?

Legal semantics. Plausible deniability. The allies of politicians everywhere. Even those you may like, and want to vote for.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 08/13/15 10:14 PM

Hmmm. Well I don't need your respect, but you may need someone to sue your school board if they issued you a diploma. What part of this do I need to break out the crayons for you on?

I watched a State Dept spokesman say THEY never sent Hillary Top Secret files. Ok. An extremely dubious claim, but I'll bite. Evidently if State didn't send it, then someone else did then.

In order for Hillary however to get a 'non secret' file, it has been surmised that one of her staff or personal aides scrubbed all references to any Secret tabs. Ok fine. That can ONLY happen if Hillary is NOT on the distribution list of the e-mail that is being sent to her. Whaaattt? IF she's on the distribution list,(for her own incoming email) then she IMMEDIATELY gets a copy of the 'secret' file. Duhhhh. Sending a scrubbed version later doesn't change the fact that even for a minute, she had Secret files on a server that should not have been there before the clean ones shows up.

In order for her to ONLY receive these sanitized files, she can't be sent the originals. So now HOW does a staffer. apparently of their own volition, scrub such files unless they are either willing to be prosecuted for extremely bad judgement, OR they were directed to scrub files before Hillary got them thus maintaining plausible deniability?

Of course, overshadowing all of this is simply the idea of using some common sense. Hillary knows the difference between run of the mill intel, and the 'spooky' stuff being gathered by No Such Agency, Christians In Action, or the NRO. When she opens up an email and sees hi-res Keyhole satellite pics, and other such materials with code word references, and compartmentalized CC lists, she knows this stuff won't be on a Strafor website, or the NY Times front page tomorrow. She knows its sensitive stuff. If she claims not to have realized its actual level of gravitas, and how she should have dealt with it, then that alone should give you pause in electing her. She's too stupid for the gig.

The math on the server seems pretty simple as well. She says that she turned over the server. She didn't. The FBI did not go to her house, knock on the door and have her hand an agent the server. The FBI went to ANOTHER STATE, TO A BUILDING THAT IS NOT A CLINTON HOME, and removed a server that they were told BY AN EMPLOYEE OF THAT COMPANY was blanked out back in 2013. THAT'S A YEAR BEFORE Hillary says she deleted 32,000 emails. So if a BLANK SERVER is sitting in a warehouse since 2013, what server did she delete e-mail from in 2014??

She can only delete those emails in 2014 IF THEY ARE ON A DIFFERENT SERVER, WHICH THE FBI DOES NOT HAVE IN ITS CUSTODY AT THIS TIME.

SO IF I TALK LOUDER AND SLOWER, DOES THAT HELP YOU NOW???? Blind loyalty will not make these problems go away, and will not change the facts as described. Sorry if it hurts you to have to even for a moment entertain the idea that Hillary may not be all sweetness and light, but suck it up Buttercup. She's continually parsed her sentences that she never sent or received documents that were classified Top Secret at the time she had them.

Here's how that works. At 9:00 her aide gets a Top Secret file. At 9:01 Hillary gets the scrubbed version of the file. At 9:02 she sends the info to someone who maybe should not have it, or makes a copy for herself called 'Brownie Recipe with Nuts'. At 9:03 the aide restores the Top Secret tabs. Now, Hillary can honestly say she never sent or received a Top Secret file in this example right? Since the aide gets the original e-mail, everyone else can honestly say they never sent Hillary a Top Secret file, right?

Legal semantics. Plausible deniability. The allies of politicians everywhere. Even those you may like, and want to vote for.

laugh frustrated laugh

lol, some people like to troll and lurk...yawn

Lpdon's photo
Thu 08/13/15 11:04 PM


Oh the "Hillarious" explanation now being offered on the 'Top Secret' e-mails, is that someone on her staff or from her 'inner circle' took the time to strip all references of Top Secret classifications from the items BEFORE Hildabeast saw them.

So here's what I'm supposed to believe.

1) The State Department puts together an intel package with satellite pics, and with analysis being provided by an analyst of an alphabet agency. The contents are according to the State Department NOT secret, because they are saying she never received ANY Top Secret files from them.
2) The NOT Top Secret package is then sent out to Clinton.
3) The routing of the e-mail magically sends it to someone who removes the 'Top Secret' tabs that supposedly WERE NOT ON THE PACKAGE TO START WITH when the State Department sent it.
4) Even though the package was supposed to go to Clinton, she apparently is not on her own distribution list, because she ONLY gets the 'sanitized' email AFTER the State Department sent it to her!

NOW, if you haven't yet choked on that load of crap, it seems we have an issue with the 'server' Hildabeast 'turned over' to the FBI. They actually picked it up from a company in New Jersey who were storing it. An employee says the server is blank because they actually upgraded the server back in 2013!

Really? That's funny, because in March 2015, Hildabeast said she wiped out the 32,000 missing emails in 2014. So those could have only been deleted from the 'new' or upgraded server, since the old one in storage was 'blanked' the year before.

Based on this information, seems to me the FBI has the wrong server, and Hillary is obstructing justice. I guess she'll need to play the "Oh you mean THAT server?" card. So it will take another year or so for us to get that one, likely AFTER she goes through the 2016 nomination and likely even the election.

IF she became President, and some intrepid investigator finds the Top Secret emails, does she just claim executive privilege and lock them up for 50 years?

Hmmmmm


Since you insist on phrasing this as a series of angry puerile insults, instead of as a functional factual argument, it's impossible to take any of what you say seriously.

I have seen far too many such diatribes posted about all sorts of political targets, and so far, every single time, when the ACTUAL facts come out, the story is at the least more complex, less open and shut.

Come back when you can make a civil, intelligent and cogent argument, and you might garner some useful respect for it.




Kinda like Bill Clinton was open and shut? rofl

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Fri 08/14/15 01:45 AM
Speaking of which...


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Fri 08/14/15 01:46 AM
makes a copy for herself called 'Brownie Recipe with Nuts'.


laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 08/14/15 02:32 AM

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Fri 08/14/15 06:51 AM

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Fri 08/14/15 07:02 AM

slaphead

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Fri 08/14/15 07:59 AM

I'll bet she had to pay for "free love" even then laugh

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Fri 08/14/15 09:24 AM

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Fri 08/14/15 01:32 PM
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mikeybgood1's photo
Sat 08/15/15 10:59 AM
Very interesting development now as polls released say the majority of people think Hildabeast is lying about the e-mails.

She's gone to Martha's Vineyard to talk with Obama. Hmmm. Should be interesting. Wonder what deal 'citizen' Clinton is trying to get, and what she has to bargain with?

Is she looking for immunity via Obama covering her e-mails in executive privilege? What dirt does she have on him or even Biden that she can leverage Obama with? You gotta think that Obama and Clinton at some point in her tenure exchanged classified material via e-mail. "Hey, MR. President look at this info." OR "Hey, Hillary, the CIA says President What's His Name watches gay porn. Maybe let that lay on the table during your chat today, and see if we can get a deal."

Is she going to hug it out with Obama as she says on her foreign policy criticisms? She's suddenly feeling repentant? Hmmm. Maybe she wants him to act as her water carrier to the DNC with a message to blow up Bernie Sanders campaign?

So many questions....

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Fri 08/21/15 01:59 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Fri 08/21/15 02:01 PM
For Hillary Clinton, Emailgate is the story that just will not go away. According to sources, the FBI believes it will be able to recover at least some of data from the former secretary of state's server.

NBC News reports that the FBI "will try to figure what's there, how it got there and who put it there," one of the sources said. Meanwhile, Fox News is reporting that FBI investigators will be able to recover at least some of the deleted files.

One of the items FBI agents will hope to restore is the activity log, which will reveal who had access to the server. The bureau can then determine if those people had the proper security clearance.

Breitbart reports that Clinton's server was operated by Platte River Networks of Denver, Colo., which stored it in a bathroom closet in its converted loft-style apartment office. This revelation raises further questions regarding how secure the server was and who had access to it and contradicts Clinton's earlier claim that the hardware system was at least physically secured by Secret Service agents at her home in Chappaqua, N.Y.

Fox News Ed Henry questioned the former secretary of state on Tuesday whether she has wiped her server clean, to which she responded jokingly: "What, with like with a cloth or something? I don't know how it works at all."

Henry followed up three more times, until Clinton finally responded: "That's for the people investigating to figure out but we turned over everything that was work related. Personal stuff we did not."

When asked whether she directed the server to be wiped clean, Clinton said: "My personal emails are my personal business. Right? We went through a painstaking process and through 55,000 pages we thought could be worth relating." She continued: "Under the law, that decision is made by the official. I was the official. I made those decisions."

"We turned over everything that was work-related, every single thing," she reiterated.

As reported by Western Journalism, the State Department confirmed in June that Hillary Clinton had not turned over all of her work-related emails. The agency found multiple ones Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal produced between himself and the former secretary of state that she had not included in those given to the State Department, prior to testifying before the Select Committee on Benghazi.

Fox News is also reporting it has discovered two classified documents sent by Clinton aides to the secretary of state on her private server among those released by the State Department.



"The first was sent by Clinton adviser Huma Abedin and contained classified material from military intelligence sources. The second was sent by Clinton aide Jake Sullivan and contained sensitive FBI information on Benghazi," according to Fox News.

When Clinton originally addressed the security of classified information being on her personal server, she stated emphatically that she had neither sent nor received classified information. On Tuesday, and when questioned on the subject in recent weeks, she added the proviso "marked classified at the time" to her explanation.

h/t: TheBlaze


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