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Topic: Kentucky - Cop Handcuffs Children
TMommy's photo
Fri 08/07/15 08:23 PM
Edited by TMommy on Fri 08/07/15 08:40 PM
By law (statute/regulation), restraint is limited to emergencies where it is absolutely
necessary to protect someone from imminent physical danger or serious physical
danger

this officer was trained in an academy in how to retrain criminals
not children with special needs
he went far and beyond what is legal in my opinion and this borders on abuse


Emergency restraint shall be performed in a manner
that is:
safe;
appropriate; and
proportionate to and sensitive to the student’s:
severity of behavior;
chronological and developmental age;
physical size;

Prohibited Practices
The following procedures are prohibited under all circumstances,
including emergency situations:
mechanical restraint;
chemical restraint;
corporal punishment as defined in �380.1312(1) of
The Revised School Code, 1976 PA 451, otherwise
known as the Corporal Punishment Act;
the deprivation of basic needs;
anything constituting child abuse;
any restraint that negatively impacts breathing;
Prone restraint:
school personnel who find themselves involved
in the use of a prone restraint as the result of
responding to an emergency must take immediate
steps to end the prone restraint; and
the intentional application of any noxious substance(s)
or stimuli which results in physical pain
or extreme discomfort. A noxious substance or
stimuli can either be generally acknowledged or
specific to the student.
taken from www.michigan.gov/documents/mde/Seclusion_and_Restraint_Standards_180715_7.pdf

germanchoclate1981's photo
Fri 08/07/15 08:43 PM

someone suggested a quiet room thats padded, with a special training to stay and deescalate their episode

the 'threat' is the concern that they hurt themselves or others during an outburst



Exactly Ms and T, and neither of your mentioned situation seems to be what occurred. It seems, SEEMS, like this wasn't even used as a deterrent. If the sheriffs dept stood behind this, did they know it was against the law? Or is this something that's been going on for a long time, possibly even worse than what we saw?


TMommy's photo
Fri 08/07/15 08:58 PM
The following are expressly prohibited in public Kentucky schools and educational programs:
(a) Mechanical restraint;



yep it's against the law in Kentucky too

mcarr91's photo
Fri 08/07/15 10:41 PM
NVCI training should be a requirement for all officers, especially those assigned duty in any school. Having worked in a locked down Behavioral Health Unit I have seen this training utilized many many times successfully. It is by no means the fastest way to deal with a situation, but action versus outcome it is often the best choice.

Unfortunately, some time's force and restraint are called for in a situation. Here too there are techniques and procedures that have to be followed with in the letter of the law.

From what I have read so far, it appears that the officer acted in the manner in which he was trained as evidenced by the backing and support of the Sheriff. I believe there was a failure to adequately and properly train the officer involved in this situation. That is a failure on the Sheriff's Department as well as the local board of education for not mandating better policies in regards to situations like this.

As the awareness and the social outrage of this events continues to grow, I would not be surprised to see other similar events brought forward from other schools around the nation. I hope this event is a catalyst for change and that future situations have a better, more positive outcome. One can always hope!

no photo
Fri 08/07/15 11:03 PM
I am sure times have changed and I am just looking at my own " snapshot" of school, but we had cops.. city cops in the hallways and we also had kids with special problems in the building. At times they would act up.

The nurse and guidance councilors ( male and female) quickly had the situation under control, (I would assume they were trained for it). with the cops as a back up.. not the main contact people and mostly in earshot but out of site. Again, I would assume as not to scare the kid.

The cops put the cuffs on kids for one reason only.. they were going to the juvenile detention center that day., which I witnessed often.. but never on a kids with special needs.

But.. different time.. different place.

germanchoclate1981's photo
Sat 08/08/15 10:18 PM

NVCI training should be a requirement for all officers, especially those assigned duty in any school. Having worked in a locked down Behavioral Health Unit I have seen this training utilized many many times successfully. It is by no means the fastest way to deal with a situation, but action versus outcome it is often the best choice.

Unfortunately, some time's force and restraint are called for in a situation. Here too there are techniques and procedures that have to be followed with in the letter of the law.

From what I have read so far, it appears that the officer acted in the manner in which he was trained as evidenced by the backing and support of the Sheriff. I believe there was a failure to adequately and properly train the officer involved in this situation. That is a failure on the Sheriff's Department as well as the local board of education for not mandating better policies in regards to situations like this.

As the awareness and the social outrage of this events continues to grow, I would not be surprised to see other similar events brought forward from other schools around the nation. I hope this event is a catalyst for change and that future situations have a better, more positive outcome. One can always hope!


IF the officer acted in the manner in which he was trained as evidenced by the backing and support of the Sheriff, then by deduction the Sheriff has implemented a program and set a standard reached by training of the department and it's officers That is in VIOLATION of State Law. I have a feeling that the department will be retracting that statement. Who knows, a judge may have a soft spot for the Sheriff and just make him stand up in court and write that section of the General Statute on a chalkboard ten times. The officer who broke that law, whether he was following training or not, should be handcuffed in the same manner until the Sheriff is finished writing. Wishful thinking.... I certainly hope the prosecution will question the officer about the particular placement of the cuffs and where he learned that technique. Whether he thought it was legal or not is irrelevant, but the training the placement and the callous demeanor in which he carried out the punishment make me sick to my stomach and I don't have children....mad

TMommy's photo
Sun 08/09/15 05:34 AM
I have two sons who by the blessing of God were both born healthy
but I have worked in school system for years with children with special needs..burns my azz when they are mistreated mad

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