Topic: Character of the SON of God
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Wed 07/08/15 10:55 AM
He is a King, a Lion and the Lamb of God and our Judge and our Creator...He is God like His Father.


Jesus fought unbelievers and cleansed the Temple from business men...lol
He also said BOLDLY that people will get to hell.
This was His message and this is His MESSAGE.
He also called by "bad" words some unbelievers:
He called unbelievers as DOGS!!! and swine and foxes!!
He replied, "Go tell that fox, 'I will keep on driving out demons and healing people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.'
Luke 13:32
NOTE:
Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees "fools, hypocrites, blind guides, whited sepulchers, murderers, a generation of snakes," and many such epithets. Jesus called them "hypocrites" seven times in one chapter. He spoke with scathing derision to the Scribes and Pharisees throughout His ministry; very few of them received a kind word from Him.
Do any believe Jesus was referencing farm animals when He said not to cast pearls or give what is holy to "the DOGS and PIGS?"
Jesus referred to the recalcitrant Jewish leaders as, "an EVIL and ADULTEROUS generation," "SERPENTS and SNAKES," and "children of the DEVIL." Why He even told the Scribes and Pharisees regarding the royal and mighty King Herod: "Go ye, and tell that FOX [that JACKAL]…"
WOE unto you, ye BLIND GUIDES…

You FOOLS AND BLIND…
You SERPENTS, you GENERATION OF SNAKES… you KILL AND CRUCIFY… you SCOURGE in your synagogues… Behold your house is left unto you DESOLATE"!!
This is the TRUE Jesus...not kind but He is JUSTICE!
He is the God of Justice and our Judge during the Judgement Day that is why He will CONDEMN people for their crimes and send them to the LAKE of FIRE!
You should know this Jesus and read the Bible DAILY to IMPLEMENT it and be like HE is!
Look how God will judge christians soon too:
"For the time is come that JUDGMENT must begin at The House of God…" (I Pet. 4:17).
From the Church...i.e. christians!
"Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do THESE [these vessels of dishonor in God’s House] also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the truth. But they shall proceed [Gk: ‘increase, advance, grow’] no further [Just as Jannes and Jambres could resist God only so far and no further, so too, will these corrupt-minded reprobates in God’s House cease to deceive God’s church, when God makes all secrets known to all]: for their folly shall be manifest unto all, as theirs [Jannes & Jambres] was." (II Tim. 3:8-9).
Notice this warning:

"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you (CHRISTIANS!!!), not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things to draw away disciples after them" (Acts 20:29-30).
"…there shall be false teachers among you, who privily [smuggle] shall bring in damnable heresies…" (II Pet. 2:1).
"Yes, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But EVIL MEN AND SEDUCERS [Gk: ‘imposters’] SHALL WAX [grow] WORSE AND WORSE, deceiving, and being deceived" (II Tim. 3:13).
And just who is it that grows "worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived?" The men and women of the world? The pagans and heathens? Is this what Paul means? Of course not. These are the leaders of the Church.

"Preach the word; [the WHOLE Word of God]; be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine [Who? The world? The pagans? The atheist? Why they have never had sound doctrine in the first place] but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables" (II Tim. 4:2-4).
God commands us ALWAYS:
"Cry ALOUD, SPARE NOT, lift up your voice like a TRUMPET, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins" (Isa. 58:1).
"Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us SMOOTH things, prophesy DECEITS" (Isa. 30:10).
I would rather sound a little angry or sarcastic than to teach smooth and deceitful things. Even Isaiah used colorful language, "speak unto us smooth things."
"Then began He [Jesus] to UPBRAID [Greek: oneidizo] the cities wherein most of His mighty works were done, because they repented not" (Matt. 11:20).

"Blessed are ye, when men shall REVILE [Greek: oneidizo] you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you FALSELY, for my sake" (Matt. 5:11).
HOW JESUS ‘UPBRAIDED’ THE CITIES?
"‘Why are you asking Me this question? Ask those who heard me. You have some of them here. They know what I said.’ One of the soldiers standing there struck Jesus WITH HIS FIST. ‘Is THAT THE WAY to answer the High Priest?’ he demanded" (John 18:21-22, The Living Bible).

One of the guards felt Jesus was so contemptuous and out of line, that he slapped Jesus in the mouth with the palm of his hand and told Him to WATCH HIS MOUTH when speaking to the High Priest! The guard was letting Jesus know in no uncertain terms that one does not speak to such a dignified person as the High Priest with such a demeaning tone of voice!
…because AS He [Jesus] is, SO ARE WE in this world" (I John 4:17),
"Let this MIND be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil. 2:5)?
Do u know why we should be like Jesus?
Because we HATE sins like Jesus and LOVE people.
Remember that my friend.
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword" (Matt. 10:34).
"For THE WORD OF GOD is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any TWO-EDGED SWORD, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" (Heb. 4:12).
CHRIST DEMANDS MORE THAN EQUAL LOVE!!!!

"He that loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me" (Matt. 10:37).
JESUS CALLS THE JEWS WOLVES

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves…" (Matt. 10:16).
"But He answered and said unto them, Why do YOU ALSO transgress the commandments of God by YOUR TRADITIONS?… You HYPOCRITES…" (Matt. 15 & 7).

"They PROFESS that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being ABOMINABLE, and DISOBEDIENT, and unto every good work REPROBATE" (Titus 1:16).
ABOMINABLE, DISOBEDIENT, REPROBATE! Are these words strong enough to make Paul’s point? Many, many pastors of the Church profess that they LOVE GOD; they profess that they LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS; then even profess that they LOVE THEIR ENEMIES, but in works they deny Him:
"Therefore when you do your alms, do not SOUND A TRUMPET before you, as the hypocrites do in the SYNAGOGUES and in the STREETS, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward" (Matt. 6:2).
"Give not that which is holy unto the DOGS, neither cast your pearls before SWINE, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and REND you [‘tear you in pieces’ Goodspeed Translation]" (Matt. 7:6).
"It is not meet to take the children’s bread and to cast it to DOGS."
This is the TRUE Jesus! Remember Him.

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Mon 07/13/15 07:37 PM

He is a King, a Lion and the Lamb of God and our Judge and our Creator...He is God like His Father.


Jesus fought unbelievers and cleansed the Temple from business men...lol
He also said BOLDLY that people will get to hell.
This was His message and this is His MESSAGE.
He also called by "bad" words some unbelievers:
He called unbelievers as DOGS!!! and swine and foxes!!
He replied, "Go tell that fox, 'I will keep on driving out demons and healing people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.'
Luke 13:32
NOTE:
Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees "fools, hypocrites, blind guides, whited sepulchers, murderers, a generation of snakes," and many such epithets. Jesus called them "hypocrites" seven times in one chapter. He spoke with scathing derision to the Scribes and Pharisees throughout His ministry; very few of them received a kind word from Him.
Do any believe Jesus was referencing farm animals when He said not to cast pearls or give what is holy to "the DOGS and PIGS?"
Jesus referred to the recalcitrant Jewish leaders as, "an EVIL and ADULTEROUS generation," "SERPENTS and SNAKES," and "children of the DEVIL." Why He even told the Scribes and Pharisees regarding the royal and mighty King Herod: "Go ye, and tell that FOX [that JACKAL]…"
WOE unto you, ye BLIND GUIDES…

You FOOLS AND BLIND…
You SERPENTS, you GENERATION OF SNAKES… you KILL AND CRUCIFY… you SCOURGE in your synagogues… Behold your house is left unto you DESOLATE"!!
This is the TRUE Jesus...not kind but He is JUSTICE!
He is the God of Justice and our Judge during the Judgement Day that is why He will CONDEMN people for their crimes and send them to the LAKE of FIRE!
You should know this Jesus and read the Bible DAILY to IMPLEMENT it and be like HE is!
Look how God will judge christians soon too:
"For the time is come that JUDGMENT must begin at The House of God…" (I Pet. 4:17).
From the Church...i.e. christians!
"Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do THESE [these vessels of dishonor in God’s House] also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the truth. But they shall proceed [Gk: ‘increase, advance, grow’] no further [Just as Jannes and Jambres could resist God only so far and no further, so too, will these corrupt-minded reprobates in God’s House cease to deceive God’s church, when God makes all secrets known to all]: for their folly shall be manifest unto all, as theirs [Jannes & Jambres] was." (II Tim. 3:8-9).
Notice this warning:

"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you (CHRISTIANS!!!), not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things to draw away disciples after them" (Acts 20:29-30).
"…there shall be false teachers among you, who privily [smuggle] shall bring in damnable heresies…" (II Pet. 2:1).
"Yes, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But EVIL MEN AND SEDUCERS [Gk: ‘imposters’] SHALL WAX [grow] WORSE AND WORSE, deceiving, and being deceived" (II Tim. 3:13).
And just who is it that grows "worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived?" The men and women of the world? The pagans and heathens? Is this what Paul means? Of course not. These are the leaders of the Church.

"Preach the word; [the WHOLE Word of God]; be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine [Who? The world? The pagans? The atheist? Why they have never had sound doctrine in the first place] but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables" (II Tim. 4:2-4).
God commands us ALWAYS:
"Cry ALOUD, SPARE NOT, lift up your voice like a TRUMPET, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins" (Isa. 58:1).
"Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us SMOOTH things, prophesy DECEITS" (Isa. 30:10).
I would rather sound a little angry or sarcastic than to teach smooth and deceitful things. Even Isaiah used colorful language, "speak unto us smooth things."
"Then began He [Jesus] to UPBRAID [Greek: oneidizo] the cities wherein most of His mighty works were done, because they repented not" (Matt. 11:20).

"Blessed are ye, when men shall REVILE [Greek: oneidizo] you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you FALSELY, for my sake" (Matt. 5:11).
HOW JESUS ‘UPBRAIDED’ THE CITIES?
"‘Why are you asking Me this question? Ask those who heard me. You have some of them here. They know what I said.’ One of the soldiers standing there struck Jesus WITH HIS FIST. ‘Is THAT THE WAY to answer the High Priest?’ he demanded" (John 18:21-22, The Living Bible).

One of the guards felt Jesus was so contemptuous and out of line, that he slapped Jesus in the mouth with the palm of his hand and told Him to WATCH HIS MOUTH when speaking to the High Priest! The guard was letting Jesus know in no uncertain terms that one does not speak to such a dignified person as the High Priest with such a demeaning tone of voice!
…because AS He [Jesus] is, SO ARE WE in this world" (I John 4:17),
"Let this MIND be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil. 2:5)?
Do u know why we should be like Jesus?
Because we HATE sins like Jesus and LOVE people.
Remember that my friend.
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword" (Matt. 10:34).
"For THE WORD OF GOD is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any TWO-EDGED SWORD, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" (Heb. 4:12).
CHRIST DEMANDS MORE THAN EQUAL LOVE!!!!

"He that loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me" (Matt. 10:37).
JESUS CALLS THE JEWS WOLVES

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves…" (Matt. 10:16).
"But He answered and said unto them, Why do YOU ALSO transgress the commandments of God by YOUR TRADITIONS?… You HYPOCRITES…" (Matt. 15 & 7).

"They PROFESS that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being ABOMINABLE, and DISOBEDIENT, and unto every good work REPROBATE" (Titus 1:16).
ABOMINABLE, DISOBEDIENT, REPROBATE! Are these words strong enough to make Paul’s point? Many, many pastors of the Church profess that they LOVE GOD; they profess that they LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS; then even profess that they LOVE THEIR ENEMIES, but in works they deny Him:
"Therefore when you do your alms, do not SOUND A TRUMPET before you, as the hypocrites do in the SYNAGOGUES and in the STREETS, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward" (Matt. 6:2).
"Give not that which is holy unto the DOGS, neither cast your pearls before SWINE, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and REND you [‘tear you in pieces’ Goodspeed Translation]" (Matt. 7:6).
"It is not meet to take the children’s bread and to cast it to DOGS."
This is the TRUE Jesus! Remember Him.



Wow!! Nothing about unbounded love. Would you suffer for folks who didn't know you like He did? I wouldn't. God is love and He so loves us that He became man to become the ultimate sacrifice for "ALL" our sins. Think about that, He died for your sins and you hadn't committed any yet. There is no cost to us because He paid the bill. We only have to accept Him for who and what He is, Lord, Saviour, King, Messiah and most importantly our brother by adoption.

Just and FYI. Do yu understand the meaning of the words testament, covenant, and will? They are a promise of an inheritance upon the death of the bequeather. The New Testament did not start with the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem but with His death in Jerusalem. Jesus spoke to Jews and explained why the law was not to save but to condemn. There are 631 rules for not sinning. We are saved from the law not because of it.

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Tue 07/14/15 03:42 AM



Wow!! Nothing about unbounded love. Would you suffer for folks who didn't know you like He did? I wouldn't. God is love and He so loves us that He became man to become the ultimate sacrifice for "ALL" our sins. Think about that, He died for your sins and you hadn't committed any yet. There is no cost to us because He paid the bill. We only have to accept Him for who and what He is, Lord, Saviour, King, Messiah and most importantly our brother by adoption.

Just and FYI. Do yu understand the meaning of the words testament, covenant, and will? They are a promise of an inheritance upon the death of the bequeather. The New Testament did not start with the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem but with His death in Jerusalem. Jesus spoke to Jews and explained why the law was not to save but to condemn. There are 631 rules for not sinning. We are saved from the law not because of it.


God is the God of love as much as HE is the God of judgment. HE is a Consuming fire - that's also what the Bible calls HIM! Again, God describes HIMSELF as a Terrible God. Furthermore, it is written, that it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

It is so tricky that so many people today just want to conceive God as the God of love and are not prepared to accept that HE is also a fierce God. Many people are living in the illusion that because God is love, HE will not execute judgment or punish sin! The same God who destroyed the entire world in the time of Noah and saved only Noah (the only person who was found to be righteous in his generation) along with his house; the same God who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and spared only Lot and his daughters (even destroying Lot's wife for disobedience) is still the same God that is alive today and forever will be alive. He is unchangeable.

That same God, because of HIS love, did give up HIS only Son - JESUS Christ. The essence of JESUS is to enable us find reconciliation with God. The purpose of reconciliation is to enable us stay/live in obedience to God. God's love does not give us the license to displease HIM or live in disobedience to HIS word! When we choose to live in disobedience, thinking that God loves us too much to punish our disobedience, we make a very grave mistake!

Jesus instructed that we should NOT fear man, who is able to destroy only the body but that we should fear only HE (God), who is able to destroy the body and after destroying the body, also throw the soul into hell.

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Tue 07/14/15 03:51 AM
"Wow!! Nothing about unbounded love. Would you suffer for folks who didn't know you like He did? I wouldn't. God is love and He so loves us that He became man to become the ultimate sacrifice for "ALL" our sins. Think about that, He died for your sins and you hadn't committed any yet. There is no cost to us because He paid the bill. We only have to accept Him for who and what He is, Lord, Saviour, King, Messiah and most importantly our brother by adoption.

Just and FYI. Do yu understand the meaning of the words testament, covenant, and will? They are a promise of an inheritance upon the death of the bequeather. The New Testament did not start with the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem but with His death in Jerusalem. Jesus spoke to Jews and explained why the law was not to save but to condemn. There are 631 rules for not sinning. We are saved from the law not because of it."


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....The new testament does not take away the attributes of God! Neither does it take away our duty/obligation to live in obedience to HIM/His word! The Bible is very explicit about this.

God is the God of love as much as HE is the God of judgment. HE is a Consuming fire - that's also what the Bible calls HIM! Again, God describes HIMSELF as a Terrible God. Furthermore, it is written, that it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

It is so tricky that so many people today just want to conceive God as the God of love and are not prepared to accept that HE is also a fierce God. Many people are living in the illusion that because God is love, HE will not execute judgment or punish sin! The same God who destroyed the entire world in the time of Noah and saved only Noah (the only person who was found to be righteous in his generation) along with his house; the same God who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and spared only Lot and his daughters (even destroying Lot's wife for disobedience) is still the same God that is alive today and forever will be alive. He is unchangeable.

That same God, because of HIS love, did give up HIS only Son - JESUS Christ. The essence of JESUS is to enable us find reconciliation with God. The purpose of reconciliation is to enable us stay/live in obedience to God. God's love does not give us the license to displease HIM or live in disobedience to HIS word! When we choose to live in disobedience, thinking that God loves us too much to punish our disobedience, we make a very grave mistake!

Jesus instructed that we should NOT fear man, who is able to destroy only the body but that we should fear only HE (God), who is able to destroy the body and after destroying the body, also throw the soul into hell.