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Topic: BREAKING NEWS: Iran BANS Nuclear Inspections
LTme's photo
Wed 06/24/15 07:43 PM
"well, your the one that defends obarry at every other post" mm

What a revealing insight!
I deduce your derisive, disrespectful "obarry" reference is to President Obama.

The reality is, I defend the truth, and advocate for conservative political values.

Yet in your mind, that's:
"defends obarry at every other post" mm

You flatter Obama, and to some extent me, I suppose.
"... so your saying your not a liberal?" mm

I'm too s a v v y to identify myself in the negative; by what I am not.
We are defined by what we are, and I am politically & fiscally conservative. Not only talk the talk, but walk the walk. The only debt I carry is that which accrues between billing periods on my credit cards. I pay no interest on them; so basically it's the bank giving me interest free loans each month.
I own my diesel tractor, my motorcycle, my car, my home, and my estate free and clear; no mortgage, no loan.
I do it. And Uncle Sam should too.

I'm most likely far to the right of you, and unquestionably of our Republican congressional leadership, both loony lefties to me.
- Neither has advocated repealing all U.S. federal entitlement programs: that means Social Security, and all the rest of it.
Speaker Boehner (R-OH) doesn't advocate that.
Majority Leader McConnell (R-KY) doesn't advocate that.

I don't consider the VA an entitlement. I consider it an earned benefit; and I advocate preserving that, and that alone.

- I advocate surplus budgets and paying off the debt.
Rand Paul is the only one I know of that might support that. Is he "tea party"?

- The root word of "conservatism" means to conserve. What I intend to conserve is out 18th Century most noble principles. And they are articulated wisely by our Founders:
"Government turns every contingency into an opportunity for amassing greater power." John Adams

"There never was a good war or a bad peace." Benjamin Franklin

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

I cyber-indulge you here mm because I am in some sense a patient man. I'm relatively new here, just tonight eclipsing the 300 post count.
I don't need to explain myself to you.
I don't need your validation.
And patient though I may be, I don't have the time to bring you up to speed on reality.

I merely offer you these very generous didactic insights so you in exchange will address my policy positions; and stop trying to confuse our fellow members by you so grossly misrepresenting my positions with false labels and little else.

If mislabeling is the best you can do, perhaps a children's forum would be more your speed.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 06/24/15 10:08 PM
I cyber-indulge you here mm because I am in some sense a patient man. I'm relatively new here, just tonight eclipsing the 300 post count.
I don't need to explain myself to you.
I don't need your validation.
And patient though I may be, I don't have the time to bring you up to speed on reality.

I merely offer you these very generous didactic insights so you in exchange will address my policy positions; and stop trying to confuse our fellow members by you so grossly misrepresenting my positions with false labels and little else.

If mislabeling is the best you can do, perhaps a children's forum would be more your speed.



well, you can spend another hour writing another 8 paragraphs explaining why you don't need to explain or validate yourself, but i probably won't read it either... people can "consider" themselves whatever they want, it makes no difference.... your a liberal, even tho you can't force yourself to admit it...

metalwing's photo
Thu 06/25/15 08:14 PM

"You cannot negotiate with someone who cannot be trusted." mw

- ah -
So you're saying FDR trusted Stalin.
And Presidents Truman, and that old softie President Dwight D. Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, & Bush all trusted the Soviets?

- news flash -

The U.S. has no need to negotiate such matters with our allies.
The U.S. negotiates with our enemies; our reason for periodic interactions with North Korea's totalitarian Kim Jong dynasty.

There are systemic problems with Secretary Kerry's negotiations with Iran.
The political party he's dealing with are not in supreme leadership.
It may all be for naught.
But Rand Paul is right. It was worth a try.
When we say War is a last resort; political conservatives like Rand Paul and I mean it.

Have the shoot first and ask questions later Republicans learned NOTHING from our titanic blunder in Iraq?!

- NOTHING ?!?!?! -


What a insipid response. You put words in my mouth so you can shoot them down? Do you even understand of what a straw man argument consists?

Rogue nations should be boycotted, shunned, blockaded if necessary to ruin their economies. Iran was close to caving when Obama started cutting them slack. The "negotiate or war" argument never existed.

However, in this case, war might actually be necessary. Iran is the number one sponsor of State terrorism and is expected to use a nuke if it can get it's hands on one. It is using the "negotiations" as a ploy to stall for time. Eventually, soon, they will have the bomb and then they will fall into the realm of North Korea but with an extra dose of hate for others, not the nations you have chosen as comparisons.

no photo
Thu 06/25/15 08:36 PM


"You cannot negotiate with someone who cannot be trusted." mw

- ah -
So you're saying FDR trusted Stalin.
And Presidents Truman, and that old softie President Dwight D. Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, & Bush all trusted the Soviets?

- news flash -

The U.S. has no need to negotiate such matters with our allies.
The U.S. negotiates with our enemies; our reason for periodic interactions with North Korea's totalitarian Kim Jong dynasty.

There are systemic problems with Secretary Kerry's negotiations with Iran.
The political party he's dealing with are not in supreme leadership.
It may all be for naught.
But Rand Paul is right. It was worth a try.
When we say War is a last resort; political conservatives like Rand Paul and I mean it.

Have the shoot first and ask questions later Republicans learned NOTHING from our titanic blunder in Iraq?!

- NOTHING ?!?!?! -


What a insipid response. You put words in my mouth so you can shoot them down? Do you even understand of what a straw man argument consists?

Rogue nations should be boycotted, shunned, blockaded if necessary to ruin their economies. Iran was close to caving when Obama started cutting them slack. The "negotiate or war" argument never existed.

However, in this case, war might actually be necessary. Iran is the number one sponsor of State terrorism and is expected to use a nuke if it can get it's hands on one. It is using the "negotiations" as a ploy to stall for time. Eventually, soon, they will have the bomb and then they will fall into the realm of North Korea but with an extra dose of hate for others, not the nations you have chosen as comparisons.


When they get the bomb, they will use it. That's what were dealing with. We do it now or suffer down the road.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/25/15 09:01 PM



"You cannot negotiate with someone who cannot be trusted." mw

- ah -
So you're saying FDR trusted Stalin.
And Presidents Truman, and that old softie President Dwight D. Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, & Bush all trusted the Soviets?

- news flash -

The U.S. has no need to negotiate such matters with our allies.
The U.S. negotiates with our enemies; our reason for periodic interactions with North Korea's totalitarian Kim Jong dynasty.

There are systemic problems with Secretary Kerry's negotiations with Iran.
The political party he's dealing with are not in supreme leadership.
It may all be for naught.
But Rand Paul is right. It was worth a try.
When we say War is a last resort; political conservatives like Rand Paul and I mean it.

Have the shoot first and ask questions later Republicans learned NOTHING from our titanic blunder in Iraq?!

- NOTHING ?!?!?! -


What a insipid response. You put words in my mouth so you can shoot them down? Do you even understand of what a straw man argument consists?

Rogue nations should be boycotted, shunned, blockaded if necessary to ruin their economies. Iran was close to caving when Obama started cutting them slack. The "negotiate or war" argument never existed.

However, in this case, war might actually be necessary. Iran is the number one sponsor of State terrorism and is expected to use a nuke if it can get it's hands on one. It is using the "negotiations" as a ploy to stall for time. Eventually, soon, they will have the bomb and then they will fall into the realm of North Korea but with an extra dose of hate for others, not the nations you have chosen as comparisons.


When they get the bomb, they will use it. That's what were dealing with. We do it now or suffer down the road.


liberals don't understand that... they think we can sit, hold hands and sing kom-by-ya and everything will be ok...

Rock's photo
Thu 06/25/15 09:08 PM
Iran should be turned into radioactive obsidian.
bigsmile

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/25/15 09:20 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Thu 06/25/15 09:20 PM

Iran should be turned into radioactive obsidian.
bigsmile


i think they should take out Iran before they(Iran) take out Israel...

no photo
Thu 06/25/15 09:23 PM

Iran should be turned into radioactive obsidian.
bigsmile


or at least a pretty place.

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