Topic: new ten dollar bill?
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Thu 06/18/15 07:28 PM

"Did you forget about that Indian Head Nickel we used to have ..." 2A

Yes. I did forget.
And as there was an Indian head penny, that might seem like a protocol breach as well.

BUT !!

I believe that was a generic "Indian" (aboriginal American), intended to represent all tribes, and all members of each tribe.

If either the nickel "Indian" or the penny "Indian" was to represent a specific person, who?


Tonto

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Thu 06/18/15 07:29 PM
I am surprised it won't be Kim Kardashian's a$$...

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Thu 06/18/15 07:37 PM
"Tonto" al

Seriously?
On BOTH the penny, and the nickel?

Can you offer a corroborating link?
"I am surprised it won't be Kim Kardashian's a$$..." IV

They already thought of that, but it wouldn't fit.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/18/15 07:40 PM

I am surprised it won't be Kim Kardashian's a$$...


i don't think it would fit... unless they used both sides

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Thu 06/18/15 08:11 PM

"Tonto" al

Seriously?
On BOTH the penny, and the nickel?

Can you offer a corroborating link?
I knew you would ask that.... Fortunately, I have better
than that. Here's an actual picture of for you.:tongue:

Tonto posing for the mint.

LTme's photo
Thu 06/18/15 08:16 PM
It's a lovely countenance, but in no way at all corroborates your assertion that it's that particular person personified by BOTH the Indianhead penny, and the Indianhead nickel.

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Thu 06/18/15 08:24 PM

It's a lovely countenance, but in no way at all corroborates your assertion that it's that particular person personified by BOTH the Indianhead penny, and the Indianhead nickel.


No, I'm telling you it's him. Go with me on this. Ok?winking

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Thu 06/18/15 08:35 PM
It's an amusing notion al.
I don't know the literary origin of the characters.

I gather the radio show The Lone Ranger began during Prohibition.

I don't know about the history of the coins. But I suspect at least one if not both predate the radio show.

I appreciate your creative ruse.
But I think we can rule Sacajawea out for the $10.oo bill.

note:
Tonto National Monument, central Arizona, established in 1907. The monument contains two well-preserved cliff dwellings that were inhabited in the 13th and 14th centuries by the Salado, an agricultural people who farmed the Salt River valley. The adobe ruins are two stories high. Area, 4.5 sq km (1.7 sq mi).

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Thu 06/18/15 11:33 PM
Or maybe it was Sqanto.....

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Fri 06/19/15 12:21 AM
I don't care if they put B/C Jenner on the bill...10 of them still makes a hundred.

I'm not for or against, just don't understand the need or purpose.

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Fri 06/19/15 02:42 AM
They might as well put George Soros on the $50.
Bernanke on the $100 and Kissinger on the $500, get rid of them, spend them it'll help the economy.
Put Hoffa on the penny, that way you can lose him every day.

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Fri 06/19/15 05:17 AM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Fri 06/19/15 05:20 AM
LTme asked >>>
"Tonto" al
Seriously?
On BOTH the penny, and the nickel?

Can you offer a corroborating link?


alleOoops posted >>>
I knew you would ask that.... Fortunately, I have better
than that. Here's an actual picture of for you.:tongue:

Tonto posing for the mint.


No - No - Nooooooo...LOL It's a COMPOSTE of 3 unique Indian Chief portraits...:wink:

The obverse design for the Indian Head 5-cent coin, commonly called a "Buffalo nickel," depicts a large, powerful portrait of an Indian, facing right. The appearance is rough looking, unlike the smooth cheeks and other facial features that typify the many versions of Lady Liberty that have been on U.S Coins. The portrait is believed to be a composite of three Indian chiefs, although the identities of the models have been disputed. A few Native Americans laid claim to be the model for the coin. The artist himself identified two of the models as Chief Iron Tail, a Sioux and Chief Two Moons, a Cheyenne. Unfortunately, Fraser had trouble remembering the names of his models. He had been asked the question so many times, that it was evident he was growing tired of the whole issue rather than set the record straight. In an undated letter to Mint Director George E. Roberts believed to be from 1913, suggests that Fraser considered the Indian design represented a type, rather than a direct portrait. He said he could recall Two Moons and Iron Tail as having served as his inspiration and possibly “one or two others'��. In alter years he dropped the number of possible '��other'�� models to one.

The one Indian originally believed to be the third model was Chief Two Guns White Calf, a Blackfoot. His claim lost a great deal of validity when in 1931, Fraser denied having used him as a model. In a letter dated June 10, 1931, from Fraser to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs of the U.S. Department of Interior, and later released to the press on July 12, 1931, Fraser is quoted as saying:

'��The Indian head on the Buffalo nickel is not a direct portrait of any particular Indian, but was made from several portrait busts which I did not Indians. As a matter of fact, I used three different Indian heads; I remember two of the men. One was Irontail, the best Indian head I can remember; the other one was Two Moons, and the third I cannot recall. I have never seen Two Guns Whitecalf nor used him in any way, although he has a magnificent head. I can easily understand how he was mistaken in thinking that he posed for me. A great many artists have modeled and drawn him, and it was only natural for him to believe that one of them was the designer of the nickel. I am particularly interested in Indian affairs, having as a boy lived in South Dakota before the Indians were so carefully guarded in their agencies. Later, the Crow Creek agency was formed at Chamberlain, but I always feel that I have seen the Indian in this natural habitat, with the finest costumes being worn. I hope their affairs are progressing favorably.'��


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Fri 06/19/15 08:23 AM
Meanwhile I heard a thoughtful comment on the radio this morning:

That because of the pivotal role Hamilton played in economic stabilization, we should keep the $10.oo as it is, and bump Jackson off the $20.

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Fri 06/19/15 08:34 AM
LTme stated >>>
Meanwhile I heard a thoughtful comment on the radio this morning:

That because of the pivotal role Hamilton played in economic stabilization, we should keep the $10.oo as it is, and bump Jackson off the $20.


Ya, I heard that as well - but in the 'LINK' ^^^ that I provided it stated that there was a 'RULE of 25 yrs' and the monetary images were to be changed.

Seems that 'RULE' started slipping and our Federal Mint didn't adhere to that! War time interruptions and other pressing issues...but there wasn't any guidelines/rules/protocol for what image was to be placed on specific currency/values.

And I for one...don't adhere to that ole' adage 'just because he was the first' --- yada,yada,yada...but we certainly can't afford to spend the stupid bucks that our USPO wastes on all those STAMPS!

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Fri 06/19/15 08:44 AM
" there was a 'RULE of 25 yrs' and the monetary images were to be changed. " 2A

Perhaps.
It would seem to me a dismal blunder to foolishly mis-rank our Founder's contributions, for purpose of adhering to such rule.

Rules can be broken. And in this case, that may be the ideal solution.

& or if necessary, Congress could rewrite the rule, delete it, or whatever.

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Fri 06/19/15 08:48 AM
" there was a 'RULE of 25 yrs' and the monetary images were to be changed. " 2A


LTme stated >>>
Perhaps.
It would seem to me a dismal blunder to foolishly mis-rank our Founder's contributions, for purpose of adhering to such rule.

Rules can be broken. And in this case, that may be the ideal solution.

& or if necessary, Congress could rewrite the rule, delete it, or whatever.


The only reason our current monetary appearance has undergone such radical changes was because of the advances of the lazer copier machines and that lead to such mass production of 'FAKE MONEY'...that 25 yr rule has been pretty much a MOOT POINT.

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Mon 06/22/15 04:01 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Mon 06/22/15 04:03 PM



Harriet Tubman Set to Be Honored with Face on $10 Bill
June 19, 2015 | By Manny Otiko

Americans may soon be pulling stacks of Tubmans out of their wallets at the gas station. The Huffington Post reported abolitionist Harriet Tubman is going to be featured on the newly redesigned $10 bill. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is expected to officially announce the new bill redesign on Friday.

'��America'��s currency is a way for our nation to make a statement about who we are and what we stand for. Our paper bills -�� and the images of great American leaders and symbols they depict' ��have long been a way for us to honor our past and express our values,'�� Lew said in a statement. '��We have only made changes to the faces on our currency a few times since bills were first put into circulation, and I’m proud that the new 10 will be the first bill in more than a century to feature the portrait of a woman.'��

'There are many options for continuing to honor Hamilton. While one option is producing two bills, we are exploring a variety of possibilities,'�� Lew said.

The Huffington Post stated the new bills will be released in 2020, a century after the 19th Amendment guaranteed women the right to vote. Tubman had also been suggested to replace President Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.

The twenty-20-dollar-bill Jackson is a controversial figure with some people calling for him to removed from the $20 bill because of his background which includes racism and genocide. They argue a man who was responsible for the Indian Removal Act and the Trail of Tears should not be on our national currency.

According to Slate writer Jillian Keenan, '��Even in historical context, our seventh president falls short. His racist policies were controversial even in his own time. After the Indian Removal Act only narrowly passed Congress, an 1832 Supreme Court ruling declared it unconstitutional.'
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http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/06/19/harriet-tubman-set-to-be-honored-with-face-on-10-bill/

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Ok, there we go - the new face on our $10. and I've been emailing my states elected humans to place a Native American on the $20. --- high time to acknowledge their existence with something besides a defunked 'Bison Nickel' or the other coin that is rarely used but still in circulation! IMHO

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Mon 06/22/15 04:07 PM
I'd like to see the image of a Native American on the $20 in place of Andrew Jackson.

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Mon 06/22/15 04:16 PM

I am surprised it won't be Kim Kardashian's a$$...

kim k is hot as hell, and id do her in a heartbeat. that being said shes annoying and famous for nothing other than getting piped out by her bf and releasing the video. but who knows, if america gets to vote on it, all the retards we have, they might actually get enough votes to put her on it.

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Thu 06/25/15 04:48 PM

so does anyone care they are taking hamilton off and putting a woman on it in 2020?


I support the basic idea of swapping out one of the men on our bills for a woman, though I don't know if Hamilton is the best choice.

Too much of the conversation that the left is having about this is insane. There are some people who won't be happy unless the woman chosen is at the intersection of all possible 'oppressed classes'.