Topic: Why God chose us?
regularfeller's photo
Tue 06/09/15 10:54 AM

Organized religion is made up of imperfect men (and women) faced.with same temptations as anyone else and therefore it is an imperfect creation


That is much of my meaning. Makes the organization a wholly unnecessary (to many)INVENTION.

Don't get me wrong, if you wanna join the club, join the club, but don't vilify a chubby ne'er do well who chooses to sit at home eating Cheetos and playing video games.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/09/15 12:06 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 06/09/15 12:07 PM


Organized religion is made up of imperfect men (and women) faced.with same temptations as anyone else and therefore it is an imperfect creation


That is much of my meaning. Makes the organization a wholly unnecessary (to many)INVENTION.

Don't get me wrong, if you wanna join the club, join the club, but don't vilify a chubby ne'er do well who chooses to sit at home eating Cheetos and playing video games.


It's not specifically bout "organized" religion. It's bout following Jesus Christ, our God almighty!!. And yes in the long run it would be recognized by "organized" as we would "all" acknowledge Jesus Christ as God :)

And trust me my friend, weather one believes or not... we will all have direct knowledge of Jesus Christ our great God <3

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/09/15 12:17 PM

Being Christian is not like ya found golden ticket in willy wonka movie
.haahaa it does not guarantee your life,your career,your marriage will be free from strifehappy


Being a "Christian" means following after our great God Jesus Christ. And actions speak louder then words he has told us.


James 2:15-17
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone

rileyannt's photo
Tue 06/09/15 02:16 PM
good answer as above.....limited atonement is Calvinism.....Christ died for all...John 3:16.....but to "be" saved and accept Christ, Romans 10:9,10 is clear...one must believe and confess Jesus is Lord....His blood fully redeems a soul from sin...sin has to be acknowledged....even after being saved, we have forgiveness......a sinner sometimes doesn't even know they are lost..I didn't...but when the burden of sin is terrible, we know we need a Savior,
and Jesus paid it all. Sorry, so wordy

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/09/15 06:02 PM


Don't know why I didn't think of this when I originally posted in this thread lol. But this one verse negates any thought that only a "chosen" group will make it to Heaven.

John 3:16

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


God loved the WORLD that WHOSOEVER believeth in him...


thought you said god loved everyone?


Whosoever would include everyone my friend.

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Fri 06/12/15 05:01 AM

(1) Why did God choose some people to be saved?

because it forgot others , as it forgets about those who die everyday because of war , starvation , terrorism ... etc

(2) Why you did NOT choose God to be saved?

I'd rather choose what can really save me , like choosing the correct sos number to dial when emergency .

(3) Is it fair to save only a limited number of people?

if you had 6 kids in danger , and had the full opportunity to save all of them , would you save one and leave the rest 5 to die ?

no photo
Fri 06/12/15 07:18 AM

Being Christian is not like ya found golden ticket in willy wonka movie
.haahaa it does not guarantee your life,your career,your marriage will be free from strifehappy


True

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.

Bukars's photo
Fri 06/19/15 05:42 PM
Who made u a judge and remember that our Lord Jesus Christ said judge not and u will not be judged.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/19/15 05:48 PM



Don't know why I didn't think of this when I originally posted in this thread lol. But this one verse negates any thought that only a "chosen" group will make it to Heaven.

John 3:16

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


God loved the WORLD that WHOSOEVER believeth in him...


thought you said god loved everyone?


Whosoever would include everyone my friend.


"whosoever believeth in him" has a different meaning...

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/19/15 05:49 PM

Who made u a judge and remember that our Lord Jesus Christ said judge not and u will not be judged.


might want to reread the bible again...

no photo
Fri 07/03/15 05:03 PM

Guys, have you heard that ONLY a limited number of people will be saved. All other people will perish after the coming Judgement Day because "punishment for sin is DEATH". This is the Holy Law of God.




Revelation 7: 9+10

I don't see a fixed small number here. huh

Bukars's photo
Sat 07/11/15 06:07 AM
GOD chose us not because we are good but because He have oready chose us/plan for us before we will born.

no photo
Sat 07/11/15 06:09 AM

GOD chose us not because we are good but because He have oready chose us/plan for us before we will born.


^^ this is such a scary blanket statement to buy into without reservations...

no photo
Sat 07/11/15 07:42 AM


GOD chose us not because we are good but because He have oready chose us/plan for us before we will born.


^^ this is such a scary blanket statement to buy into without reservations...


God has a plan for humanity true. We are made with our own freewill. It is our own decisions and actions that will determine our destiny.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 07/11/15 08:40 AM

GOD chose us not because we are good but because He have oready chose us/plan for us before we will born.
wouldn't that be grossly unfair and unjust?
Favoritism by the Big Guy?

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Sat 07/11/15 11:43 AM
Edited by Kaustuv1 on Sat 07/11/15 11:43 AM

Guys, have you heard that ONLY a limited number of people will be saved. All other people will perish after the coming Judgement Day because "punishment for sin is DEATH". This is the Holy Law of God.

Now ponder:

(1) Why did God choose some people to be saved?

(2) Why you did NOT choose God to be saved?

(3) Is it fair to save only a limited number of people?

Any ideas?




Just wanted to ask: Are you certain that you have typed 'that' point (numbered as (2)) correctly? I mean, is 'that' really what you wanted to ask, or should 'that' question been framed as: Why GOD did not choose 'you' to be saved?


Could you please 'clarify'?:smile:

JaiGi's photo
Sat 07/11/15 12:08 PM
Edited by JaiGi on Sat 07/11/15 12:10 PM
So in my younger years I was walking despondently
and I felt a divine presence and i asked
are you Christian?
silence
(a cat came from nowhere & somehow I knew it was His cat, just a cat & not a Christian)
are you Muslim?
silence
(a dog seemed to bark in the distance & i knew Muslims disliked dogs since they have a tendency to chorus out a howl when there was this melodious call for the evening prayers (Adan)
are you Hindu?
So then i hear a calf or was it a goat - quite silly plaintive
are you Jewish?
Ha,ha; the earth literally shook under my feet - or was it a distant laughter in my brain? i don't know.

Seriously, there is a divine presence & someday when i understand better
i may talk about it.

But for a scientific enquiry we must begin with the premise that 'God is an Atheist' - at least that's what i understood that day.

JaiGi's photo
Sat 07/11/15 07:09 PM
What's amazing in this day and age is that a religious belief, faith; originally meant to light the way; soon turns to a weapon.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 07/11/15 09:40 PM


Who made u a judge and remember that our Lord Jesus Christ said judge not and u will not be judged.


might want to reread the bible again...


Please don't make me look up every relevant verse. Along who judges us eg., "The Word" and then "The Word" being made flesh and dwelling among us eg Jesus Christ. But for the latter part of your statement -

Matthew 7:2

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 07/11/15 09:41 PM


Guys, have you heard that ONLY a limited number of people will be saved. All other people will perish after the coming Judgement Day because "punishment for sin is DEATH". This is the Holy Law of God.

Now ponder:

(1) Why did God choose some people to be saved?

(2) Why you did NOT choose God to be saved?

(3) Is it fair to save only a limited number of people?

Any ideas?




Just wanted to ask: Are you certain that you have typed 'that' point (numbered as (2)) correctly? I mean, is 'that' really what you wanted to ask, or should 'that' question been framed as: Why GOD did not choose 'you' to be saved?


Could you please 'clarify'?:smile:


Those that are "saved" was not "chosen" so to speak. They "chose" God in their life, so God will choose them after their "life" on Earth.