Terrorism is America's "help", "aid" and "partnership" they offer to any nation that alows them. "Greece" gift. They stoke the fire of war and terrorism and pretend to "help". Take a look at the countries they destablized all over the world. From middle east to Africa and Asia, the stories are same. BEWARE OF AMERICA'S "HELP, AID, COOPERATION, TIE, " . Its all about weapon sale, control, oil, divide and rule, destablize and enthrone a weak and naive prot�g��, etc

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Wiki throws some light on Wahhabism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

May be our Muslim members can give a better insight into all this?


All of the ISIS literature and teachings come from Sheikh Abdelaziz bin Baz and Juhayman al-Otaybi. DIE HARD WAHHABIS.

Sunnis are NOT Wahhabis.

ISIS does not consider the rulers of Saudi Arabia to be TRUE Wahhabis.

Wahhabism is very very very different than your average Sunni.

ISIS are chopping off heads in Anbar Province and the heads they are chopping off are SUNNI!!!!!!!!!!


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(I think that Wahabbism is just a cover for the deeper game going on.)

Wahabbism is the cover and the main ideological frame for ISIS

The Saudi Ikhwan approach to Islam did not die in the 1930s. It retreated, but it maintained its hold over parts of the system -- hence the duality that we observe today in the Saudi attitude towards ISIS.
On the one hand, ISIS is deeply Wahhabist. On the other hand, it is ultra radical in a different way. It could be seen essentially as a corrective movement to contemporary Wahhabism. For more info:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html

All of the ISIS literature and teachings come from Sheikh Abdelaziz bin Baz and Juhayman al-Otaybi. DIE HARD WAHHABIS.

Sunnis are NOT Wahhabis.

ISIS does not consider the rulers of Saudi Arabia to be TRUE Wahhabis.

Wahhabism is very very very different than your average Sunni.

ISIS are chopping off heads in Anbar Province and the heads they are chopping off are SUNNI!!!!!!!!!!


QUOTE:
(I think that Wahabbism is just a cover for the deeper game going on.)

Wahabbism is the cover and the main ideological frame for ISIS

The Saudi Ikhwan approach to Islam did not die in the 1930s. It retreated, but it maintained its hold over parts of the system -- hence the duality that we observe today in the Saudi attitude towards ISIS.
On the one hand, ISIS is deeply Wahhabist. On the other hand, it is ultra radical in a different way. It could be seen essentially as a corrective movement to contemporary Wahhabism. For more info:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html

Are there two koran? ISLAM IS ISLAM, simple!!

The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life.

REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear.

How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked??

In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY.

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The Islamic State has access to enough radioactive material to produce a 'dirty bomb' through the medical facilities in the occupied territories, however, I'm sure they'd be appreciative of some weapons grade material.

But I don't think Pakistan's government is that stupid.

The Pakistan's government might not be, but is some one else ???? wanted to keep that fire buring they could make it possible for them to get a bomb knowing that Pasistan would be blamed. AND like our history shows us, media reports will be all the proof most all people will need to jump on board the "Let's Nuke Em" band wagon. sad and pathetic.

If they were so ready to surrender then why did they wait until the second bomb was dropped?

There is plenty of real evidence in film and pictures of the military training civilians to repel an invasion.

Your theory is BS..

I appreciate your eclectic perspective here JN, but cannot share it.

a) The Japanese fought fanatically, and to the death on the numerous Pacific islands fought over on the U.S. advance to the Japanese peninsula.
So far as I know, though they lost every contested island, they showed no sign of interest in the unconditional surrender the United States required.

b) Even after we nuked Hiroshima the Japanese (Emperor) STILL refused to surrender; thus the nuking of Nagasaki.

I've read that the Emperor expected to be humiliated and abused in surrendering to the U.S.
But the stills and video I've seen of it indicate it was a solemn but very formal ceremony, where all significant diplomatic protocols were observed by the U.S., who had sacrificed so much, and lost so many to put an end to the hostilities.

My dear friend, YOU SAY: "... though they lost every contested island, they showed no sign of interest in the unconditional surrender the United States required."

So you admit THEY WERE LOSING.]

There were MANY signs that they would have surrendered, they put a public face on it but READ more stuff PLEASE to see what was said behide the scenes. We can read them ALL NOW.

With respect, I must say I just feel sick reading what you say so casual and off the cuff, ABOUT hundreds of thousands of people, killed instantly, A poisoned land< AND many, many years of after effects that still cause people to be born with terrible conditions. "They" the ones who were bombed, were not an army or soldiers, BUT WEOMEN, CHILDREN and old people IN CITIES... were nuked, and how many days before the next bomb fell. ??? No REAL time (or wish) by U.S. to see if surrender would happen.

It's all good and well saying that AFTER the surrender they treated leader well. so that makes it ok.

May God forgive your true lack of understanding and of the gravity of this terrible action. I will keep my "eclectic perspective" as you so call it, if it means it shows my thinking is nothing like yours.
I do however wish you peace.

With respect, you can say what you like about 'MY theory'. You watched a few old film footage of them training people in preperation for an attack and not done any research, read nothing, then arogantly feel you got a full picture. what a sad person you are showing yourself to be.
It was a war, so yeah, they would be training people like we do. SO THAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION THEN??? BECAUSE THEY WERE TRAINING PEOPLE, Crazy

It is a completely different situation when we (the so-called good guys) target cities/civillians with a WMD... TWICE.

We lost 3,000 people in 9/11. It was such a terrible shock and brought such fear and rage to everyone in the west and around the world. can you imagine what a nuked western city would be like?? for peace sake wake up and stop this double standard B.S.

if you put a towel on your head and posted about nuking and slaughtering people in the west, like so many here are saying we should do to people in islamic nations, like it's nothing, EVERYONE HERE would call you a monster.
B U T it's just those islamics, so what the f..k. slaughter the f..kers, who cares if a few hundred thousand get killed, and millions displaced, they deserve it because, WELL, they are there. They don't care about their families, their livelyhoods, their homes or their lives....???? They all just want to kill us.?
SOUNDS JUST LIKE THOSE CRAZY ISIS DUDES.

We do not get a pass on it my friend. I feel it will NEVER be justified to use nukes on anyone. But I agree with the rest of your post here. peace

above quote From LPdon
Read and weep. that's what it is REALLY about being number 1 superpower??

Sick, and really, really sad. I am scared of you people and the effect that this sort of rationale does in fuelling hatread and ignorance. This can be read by people of those countries. (Yeah I know you don't give a damn about what they read from us)

How does such lovely, kind looking people think like this?

actually the firebombing of Tokyo caused a greater Devastation!
Besides,blame Joe Stalin,since Japan approached him about a way out of the Mess,but somehow Stalin forgot to tell his Western Allies bout it,most likely since he had his Eyes on Sakhalin and the Kuriles,which he couldn't invade until he declared War on Japan,which he promptly did,after the US dropped those Nuclear Devices!
Until then the USSR had a non-aggression Pact with Japan,something like they had with Germany!
Japan needs to thank Uncle Joe for Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

"Thank" uncle Joe for Genocide and mass murder? God have mercy on these reprobate west!!!

Thankfully, not all in the West are reprobates, most are good honest people who don't want the actions taken by our leaders to solve international crisis, just as not all islamic people want death and destruction for all the people in the west. Most just want to live in peace and safely.

The people here who say with easy about nukes and slaughter in islamic nations are just scared and insecure, don't feed their fear. They feel they can get way with saying such things because they feel they (their country) is powerfull enough to take anyone out if they do or say anything they don't agree with (like the school bully in the playground)

Isis members number a few thousand people (at most), amongst millions of people who do not think or feel or agree with what Isis are doing, but feel, and actually experience then effects the actions taken by the west to "help" them are causing more pain and suffering and death. FOR ALL< ON ALL SIDES.

People run their mouths when they sit in a cosy home and the bombs are dropping somewhere else.

Neither would Israel.

Obummerites are still sticking to that cleaning up Bush's mess MS eh? lol That's funny.

BTW Obama has done an awful job as President. He has led the US to is first credit downgrade in history, led to the rise of ISIS with no plans to defeat this enemy, his failure to make a decision at Benghazi. I can keep going if you want.

Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting.

The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately.